Back in 2002 Nintendo already decadent. And the release of the Wii still wasn't enough proof for you

Back in 2002 Nintendo already decadent. And the release of the Wii still wasn't enough proof for you

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When Sonic 2 was released in 1992 everybody waited for a sequel to Super Mario World

To this day it hasn't been released = Nintendo admit defeat

What is this image supposed to prove?

Yoshi's Island was released as SMW2, and now we have Super Mario 3D World.

the only attempt Nintendo tries to make a Mario 3D game they release that shit despite not releasing any Mario game from 1996 to 2002.

Sonic Team first attempt at a 3D Sonic Game they release that masterpiece despite tight schedule and a bit rushed 1998 release.

>Yoshi's Island
Still not a sequel to Super Mario Bros. 3/Super Mario World.

the only sequel they released was on the gameboy

>sonic adventure
>masterpiece
>mario sunshine
>shit
Is this opposite day or something user?

I wouldn't use the terms masterpiece and shit, but he has the right general idea.

By 1998 standards Sonic Adventure was a masterpiece
Even by today standards the game is great but the one thing that keeps the game from getting the forever masterpiece status is is the awkward camera.

Mario Sunshine was a total shit in 2002 and today is even worse because now we realize the game is a beta build.

SMB2 wasn't a sequel to 1 or a prequel to 3. It was a dream sequence.

But super mario sunshine was a great game.

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>PMTTYD not released until 2004

Your argument makes no sense

Your link is fucking broken.

What about the shit controls, bad voice acting, and all around shitty animation?

Even with cherrypicking I think you only manage to make both games look equal at best.

your only complaint is muh graphics.

Tip: download the steam 4K graphics mod or just play the game for the gameplay and not for the graphics or voice acting or whatever pleases your sick brain

OP thinks because Sunshine is bright and coloful instead of extravagant and edgy that makes it the worse game.

Super Mario Sunshine was a fine game. The only reason you don't like it is because you're a Sonic fanboy.

His entire post is literally nothing but complaints that aren't graphics.

He didn't even mention all the shit characters you have to play.

Mario sunshine had so many problems but amazing core gamepaly

They don't need to release a sequel to literally every game. It's not defeat to experiment with different types of games. You're really reaching with this one.

It looks much better and it's a 1998 game

>It's not defeat to experiment with different types of games.

So much that they had to release the New series to make easy cash despite those games being release with no detail, no music and floaty jump

New Super Mario Bros
New Super Mario Bros Wii
New Super Mario Bros 2
New Super Mario Bros Wii U

All the same game only difference is the resolution and the items

No it doesn't.

>Mario Sunshine
>Wind Waker
>Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire

What the fuck vacation did everyone at Nintendo go on that year that made everyone so fucking obsessed with tropical settings?

I like both Sonic Adventure and Sunshine because Dreamcast and Gamecube were the best consoles of that gen.

It's kind of amazing to still see someone arguing that Sonic is better than Mario, it's like stumbling upon a dodo.

because you don't have to make buildings/architeture, good model characters,etc.
just fill the screen green and blue

With Sunshine I imagine it was just because they wanted to show off they're awesome looking water technology. With Wind Waker I think they just wanted a whole lot of nothing so they could hide load times between areas.

Ruby and Sapphire... Fuck if I know.

Delete this!
wind waker is a masterpiece
sunshine is 9.5/10

FUCK YOU!

Wind Waker was because Aonuma was obsessed with some weird Sinbad-esque anime from when he was a kid.

Someone had photos of it in an old Zelda thread. I think it even had sailing.

>The official story
>The other side story
>The truth

Which one of the 3 do you think it is in this case?

Dont forget wave race. Im pretty damn sure they went to some tropic place because even Koji Kondo was doing the same instruments in several games during that era.

Ruby and Sapphire actually aren't that tropical. It's based on one of the smaller Islands of Japan (Either Kyushu or the other one I forget the name of) the same way every other Gen before V was stuck in some part of japan.

It's just being an island there's going to be alot of water.

>Sonic Adventure was a masterpiece
Fuck no.
I enjoyed it, and it definitely has more charm than most of the early modern Sonic games, but fuck no.
The game spreads itself too thin. It tries to do all of these different play-styles and they range from average to downright shit. This is a problem that has plagued pretty much every 3D Sonic game. They run out of ideas and have to pad the game out, and it makes for a worse game. SM64 two years prior is a better game, and Sunshine was rushed as fuck and I'd still argue that it's a better game.

OST is awesome though.

Can someone please explain the problems with Mario sunshine? I liked it and thought it improved on sm64 in nearly every way.

Everyone at Nintendo and GF wanted to go on a tropical vacation. They got their wish, and as a result Sunshine and WW were rushed.

Pretends to be fair on the start ...
>I enjoyed it, and it definitely has more charm

can't hide his Nintendrone side
>The game spreads itself too thin
>They run out of ideas and have to pad the game out

Starts to get full nintendrone autism
>SM64 two years prior is a better game

At this point the user is not even hiding anymore

>Sunshine was rushed as fuck and I'd still argue that it's a better game.

>trying to argue Mario vs. Sonic
I love Sonic, but you lost that fucking war. No matter how soulless any Mario game gets Sonic was irredeemably shit for over a fucking decade. The series that's supposed to being going toe-toe-toe with Mario releases nothing but shit game after game, year after year. Any Sonic fan should be frustrated as hell.

Even when Sonic Team finally makes a decent game, they still manage to fuck it up somehow. Unleashed, Colors, Generations, and Lost World all have issues.

...

An extinct species known as Segafags are not allowed to call others fanboys

>legitimate problem with the game and one of the fundamental issues of every modern Sonic game
>"nintendrone"
Right. I'm sorry you got the shit end of the stick for like fifteen years, but there's no need to call names, user.

>Hovering invalidates most of the challenge that could have come from platforming, so much so that they even acknowledged this and made designated "no FLUDD" zones just so they could have actual platforming
>Because platforming isn't a challenge most of the time, the primary focus is now on exploring levels and spraying shit
>Exploring could be nice but it's really only useful for two things: Finding blue coins and finding extras in the hub world. Both of these are completely optional.
>All you have to do to unlock the final level is complete all of the Shadow Mario episodes. Actually collecting shines is completely worthless outside of getting 100% (which gives you an incredibly meager reward). This makes progressing in the game far less flexible than it was in SM64 or the Galaxy games
>The game has far fewer stages than any of the other 3D Marios, and it obviously tries to make up for it by packing the game with hastily made filler (blue coins, two red coin missions per level, a lot of the bullshit secret zones you find in the hub world, etc)

saved

>Sonic was irredeemably shit for over a fucking decade

From XXXX to XXXX ?

I don't care what yall say. Sunshine was comfy as hell in my childhood, and was my favorite. Sonic adventure came in a close second for me at that time. If it's a flaw they both have, they lacked multiplayer
> although in sonic adventure DX your second controller can control tails

Mid/late-90's to 2008, when they managed to release a game that wasn't complete trash called Unleashed.

top kek
(you) deserve it

>Sonic Adventure 1
>Sonic Adventure 2
>Sonic Advance 1
>irredeemably shit

>two-thirds of a game at least is shit
>but it's okay because of a minigame!
Fuck off.

Impressive.

You deserve this (you) i'm giving you.

I can't believe segafags still exist, they just like clinging onto that failed console I guess.

Where is the part you shit on Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush Adventure?

It was this

youtube.com/watch?v=ulQ5jumhk1Y

I'm not wrong. When most of your game is shit, then it's pretty shitty.

Mario Sunshine is one of the most boring pieces of shit I have ever played f

>Your game
>My Mario
>My Sunshine

So much drama for the >I like Sonic BUT

It's just Adventurefags. As a segafag myself they are embarrassments.

>When most of your game is shit, then it's pretty shitty.

It's bait.

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