Which video game has the best combat?

Which video game has the best combat?

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Ninja Gaiden 2

Dark Souls 1 has the best combat in that series, but you can't really make a general statement about which game is "best". Nioh and Platinum games are far more technical than Souls, but I still prefer Souls. It's not a matter of being better or worse, personal preference comes into play too much. You should ask a more narrow question like "which game has the most satisfying melee combat" or even "which game has the 'deepest' combat?"

Dark Souls 1 was clunky as fuck. The 4 direction dodge is horrible when you try to go back. Both 2 and 3 have better combat.

Bloodborne

2 is horrible clunky shit and 3 is brainless spammy garbage. If you want to roll in any direction in Dark Souls just don't lock on. Lock-on is a tool, it doesn't need to be used all the time.

Bloodborne has better combat than DaS

mountain blade warbang. Everything else pales in comparison.

If you count motion games, then the PS4 gladiator game.

Nioh objectively has the best melee combat in any game

Nah.

DaS > BB > DaS3 > DeS > DaS2

Nioh.

Nioh
Bloodborne is the best in Souls. Was playing it yesterday and remembering why Ludwig is the best boss fight in the series.

>The 4 direction dodge is horrible when you try to go back
I have literally never noticed this being an issue. It's a meme-complaint.

Devil May Cry 4

But that's wrong you fucking retard.

Nioh, by a large margin.

Your face is a meme.

Yeah it does, trick weapons are better than literally anything DaS has to offer.

Ninja Gaiden Black
Devil May Cry 3
God Hand

The Timeless Triniy

>that's wrong
Why?

Nioh.

>Posts an image of a game with one of the clunkiest combat schemes on any modern game

Ninja gaiden black/sigma

What exactly would make it less clunky in your opinion?

Arkham City is pretty good.
Beating the game is piss easy but the challenges can be hard as fuck.

Ninja Gaiden 2

Are people saying Nioh serious?

It will be Dragon's Dogma all over again, another piece of shit game hyped by console users with low standards.

Yeah that webm sure does make BB combat look good.

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Exanima, seriously try it.

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It's actually worse than DS2, DS3, and BB. I love the game, but the fighting is very slow and unwieldy.

Still pretty good combat though.

>DS3
>Worse than DS3

Also, nothing is worse than DS2.

Dark Souls ruined melee combat games for me. Every one I play I think "Why the fuck can' t you be Dark Souls?"

But for FPS combat that's tougher. FEAR is close.

Bloodborne
Hotline Miami

I keep seeing your webms of this game and none of them looked fun to me. It seems so average.

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People will give you shit for that first opinion, but you are absolutely right. Just replace Dark Souls with Demon's Souls and that's me.

Souls formula basically perfected RPG combat.

I don't know what you're trying to say. I did imply that the Nioh webm and this one are mechanically identical though.

The only games I'll accept are games from the "stylish action" genre or something slightly slower like monhun.

>Souls combat
>perfect RPG combat
Fuck off, Souls games have most basic inputs of all time, the only saving grace is that there are a variety of weapons. It's balanced around a very limited stamina barstamina that does nothing but slow combat down.

It's not stylish, it's not deep, it's not even intuitive. The PVP is fun for sure but any game with good PVP is fun.

Korra isn't fun either, so I don't get your point.

And yet every other system is worse.

And before you say Dark Messiah, that worked off nearly the exact same system.

>le stylish

Monhun aka the game that souls was arguably inspired by has better combat imo. I'd argue Dragon's Dogma has a better combat system as well.

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Of all time? That's a bold claim for a game that hasn't come out yet. I liked the beta but the combat didn't feel groundbreaking imo.

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God Hand

>Dragon's Dogma has a better combat system

how to disregard one's opinions about everything

Fuckings mimics.

>point and click to win
>combat

Korra is average and it looks to me like Nioh is too.

Greataxe in Dark Souls is such a fucking bore. The Hunter's Axe in BB is much better.

because you haven't played Nioh. Each one of those moves requires timing and not just spamming one fucking button over and over.

I just like having more options and more interesting inputs and combos.

I love souls games but the combat is not really what you'd call deep. I'm an action game guy so going from Godhand or something to a souls game feels like I have no tools or ability to do anything cool.

But they aren't. Most systems have a tangible amount of depth unlike Souls which stops at running attack.

>And before you say Dark Messiah, that worked off nearly the exact same system.
They're incredibly different and you can actually aim in DM. Are you fucking retarded or something?

Not him but it does. Each class has tons of skills and to excel(not that you have to) there is a degree of skill that must be had. Souls skill is just rolling at the right time and attacking 3 times before rolling again.

He parried. I parried in Korra. There's no different there. Other webms are just as basic looking.

"I don't like the point you're making so I'm going to attack your webm."

>ctr+F
>no witcher

wtf?

bloodborne

DD combat is only really fun when you're fighting huge monsters. When you're just fighting humans or goblins it kind of sucks.

More like he has no ground to complain while posting something boring.

Dragon's Dogma isn't deep either. Just because you can do more stuff doesn't make it deeper, in fact it's far more shallow than Souls, because enemies aren't a threat, never.

This is still the king though.

Dragon's Dogma is simple but fun.

Oni

Bloodborne. Don't think any other game will statisfy me as much as Bloodborne.

DMC4.

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He didn't parry though. He used two separate moves that need to be timed to the enemies' attack. There is a parry mechanic in Nioh, and it's pretty simple, but that's not what the Nioh webms show. You can't do those moves by just holding down the parry button.

The combat is fine, you're complaining about monster design.

Yes, it does. Hard mode BBI is much harder than Souls because you can actually die in one hit, by weak monsters to boot. You can do some crazy shit in DD and there are even items on top of all the classes that expand combat even further. And you can throw monsters.

You haven't even played it, have you?

Fucking literally Dark Souls combat. Roll and hug the side of something

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Ludwig is the best fight in any souls game ever and I don't think from will ever top it. The setup is similar to artorias. A legendary warrior hyped up throughout the game. A bastion of honor, a loyal warrior of light and enemy of evil. Then you meet him and everything is wrong. A twisted vessel of whst he once was, like artorias, a raging beast. But then something happens. Unlike artorias, Ludwig gains himself back. You get a vision of the warrior he used to be, the orchestral score swells, and for the briefest of moments, you look into the face of a man that was twisted by the evil he fought his whole life, and then the fight really begins.

No I take that back. I think Ludwig is the best boss fight of any video game I've ever played.

>timing input to deflect an attack
That's what a parry is bud.

Ninja Gaiden series.

>because you can actually die in one hit

you can die in 1 hit in souls very easily on a normal playthrough. I just did today a bunch starting ds1

Hard to argue with you. Maybe change godhand for another Platinum game but Godhand had influence in many others like No More Heroes, Madworld and Vanquish

Magicka has a superior magic-combat system over everything else.

Movement left much to be desired, at least until you unlocked teleport.

this looks pretty cool
this looks terrible

Yeah, and if the enemy design sucks, it drags the combat down. Having unique and interesting enemies is just as important as the number of moves you can do, which is the difference between a game and a punching-bag simulator. The normal enemies in DD, which are what you spend the majority of the time fighting, are not really that fun to fight.

No, it doesn't and yes I've played it.

Hard difficulty is a joke. Not balanced at all, the devs just increased enemy damage and called it a day. You have more option than Souls, sure, but none of that matters when the game is shallow as hell.
Fundamentally, the Souls combat is perfect for what it is, DD is not.

>And you can throw monsters.

wew, made me chuckle I admit.

>le EPIC CAMERA ZOOM

wew

You're just going to deflect all day, aren't you?

Souls has worse enemy design. Bosses are "dodge attack attack dodge attack attack" with hardly any variation. Smaller monsters are just "don't rush or you get fucked up". DD has a far wider variety of mechanics in the monster design.

And they rebalanced stamina consumption.
>it's shallow because I say so, let's both ignore a huge difference in depth
You don't even have an argument. Typical drone.

>Bosses are "dodge attack attack dodge attack attack" with hardly any variation. Smaller monsters are just "don't rush or you get fucked up"

youve never actually played a souls game have you?

Are you shitting me? Normal enemies are complete fucking pushovers in DD, especially once you really make some progress in your vocation.

Dark Souls also has amazing combat, whats your point

>dragons dogma
20:23
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>even more deflection
Brilliant.

Try on hard mode and in BBI they're a challenge too. That's nearly beside the point though given what else I've said.

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>restarted the game when he's like level 100
How desperate are you?

>even more deflection

not even the same guy and i question isn't deflection you braindead fanboy

In theory For Honor.
In practice Jedi Academy.

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>not even the same guy
This is getting pathetic.

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this little gem right here

too bad none of you plebes played it in its prime

here you go faggot

Pleasantly surprised at the amount of people saying ninja gaiden instead of being plebs

I did. The title screen music was so bad. FLY AWAAAAAAAY FAR AWAYYYYY SEARCHING FOR MY something or other.

Lunia I think it was?

That cat is cute desu

Shame it's PS exclusive