What's wrong with fanservice in video games? Fanservice is great. Games actually improve with fan service...

What's wrong with fanservice in video games? Fanservice is great. Games actually improve with fan service. From boring dull and too serious to sexy smart and tantalizing

Does she get DP'd?

Those are slime men. She gets it in all 5 of her holes.

what's the name of this game? Is it translated? pass that VNDB link

t. horny weeaboo who can't live without anime

You say that like its a bad game

>it's okay if it's western

Not a god damned thing.

Fan service is the cheapest way to sexually arouse normies like yourself OP. It's way too "in your face" to ever be appealing, if I wanted to jack off to over-the-top body proportions then I would be jacking off to doujins or newgrounds porn games instead of being all googly-eyes over some dumb chick's big breasts in my face. They are the equivalent to jump scares, cheap thrill rides that add nothing but being intrusive.

cool story

Nice rebuttal, but I'm one step ahead of you.

>OP: What's wrong with fanservice in video games?
>An user gives a good answer
>OP: Shit... uh... COOL STORY BRO!!!1! xD 100%

Tittilation and masturbation fuel are two different things that accomplish different ends.

>user gives a good answer

cool story

Tell me about Neptune, why does she eat the pudding?

>Games actually improve with fan service.
subjective
>From boring dull and too serious
subjective
>to sexy
subjective
>smart and tantalizing
I've never seen this to be the case. In fact, it dumbs the gameplay down if anything because these games like to put in short cutscenes to literally stop the game and do some cheesecakes.

The problem with it is that it appeals to people only buying the game FOR fanservice.
If a game relies on fanservice for all its sales, there is a much smaller incentive for the developer to actually make the game good.
Pandering to tumblristas and progressives is the other end of the spectrum to fanservice, for a suppliment that could be bad for the game.

Personally, the muh oppression shit has been going on long enough that I wouldn't mind a wave of games that rely on fanservice to sell.

The greatest games ever created always has fanservice included somewhere in the game.

>t.
What does that mean? English isn't my native language and google isn't helping.

You guys are thinking too much on one spectrum of video games. Which is just shit games.

But if we take the sample of "Great games", the one thing that moves from a game being a 8/10 to a 9/10 is simply fanservice.

Fanservice provides a complete package that's needed in games that win GOTY and turns a game from a mediocre game done a billion times to a timeless masterpiece remembered for decades.

By your standards, maybe. You're ignoring a few entire genre such as RTS/TBS/FPS/Rogue/Sim when making that statement.

I see fanservice is as the cheap Japanese equivalent of good graphics. Buying a game for cute girls is only as bad as buying a game for pretty grass.

Which nep is this

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You literally don't know what you're talking about.

t. reddit

This one

Uni. The best and straightest nep.

Everything in doses.

Why are they upside down.

>RTS
>Starcraft II
Kerrigan and everything about her is fanservice
>TBS
Civilization is fanservice incarnate
>FPS
Duke Nukem
>Rogue
All rogue games have fanservice in it
>Sim
This genre is pure fanservice

Its pandering to the lowest common denominator.
It supports bad buying habits in an industry that already suffers greatly from very poor consumer habits, telling devs that they can make crappy games and still profit so long as they slap a pair of tits on it.

It's just one of the newer stupid memes Sup Forums uses.

>five

You mean nine

What is going on in this picture?
I want to waifu her so she can ntr me.

>neps
>straight
That's not what /vg/ told me.

Speaking of fanservice, should I edge to Joost?

Noire is clearly shaking because this is her first time.

It's clearly not the lowest common denominator because Underaged Panty Quest games are pretty damned niche.

They're games made by enthusiasts for enthusiasts. There's a specific market segment they're targeting and there is nothing wrong with that. These aren't games with massively over-inflated budgets feeding mass market, they're small affairs giving people what they want, so they can continue making games.

what are those two big burly blue radishes doing there?

no really, i am not a gay, i do not want men in my pornographies, because if there was i would be jacking off to men, which i do not do because i am not a gay

Rest of them are arguably dykes. Uni is inarguably straight. She's had male love interests in nearly every game she's in.

you mean ten

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Graphics go a hell of a lot farther in improving a game than fanservice, even if you consider making graphics is only doing shit like making pretty grass.

People joke about it all the time, but immersion really does go a long way in your enjoyment of things. Red Orchestra 2 wouldn't be nearly as tense if your buddy's head didn't explode when it got hit by a sniper.

People put a lot of time and effort into making a game look good, and good graphics really do pay off.

Fanservice, on the other hand, is pretty fucking easy to do. A group of character designs and voice lines of moaning girls are a hell of a lot easier to make than an optimized game.

i get it

>muh immersion
>muh realism
>muh graphix

I don't.

jesus fucking christ there is no group on earth more pathetic than you stupid fucking weaboos

kill yourselves you autists and stop ruining vidya just because you're horny 24/7 and desperate for gratification since you were constantly bullied and rejected your entire miserable lives

>Fanservice, on the other hand, is pretty fucking easy to do. A group of character designs and voice lines of moaning girls are a hell of a lot easier to make than an optimized game.
no it isn't. Moaning girls is really hard to get right. It's cringe worthy and laughable if done wrong. You can ignore bad graphics as long as the style is good, but you can't ignore bad voice acting

Are we talking Fanservice in games, or Fanservice games? Because they are two very different things.
Fanservice games that fill their particular niche, like Senran Kagura does, are no problem and fairly self contained.
Fanservice in games does not serve any particular niche and is just an extra pandering tool. See something like Trails of Cold Steel adding a bunch of waifus and waifubaiting to a series about world building, tight character development, and political intrigue.

She looks like a horse, that's the joke.

Damn that made my brain really process data with electrical signals

Art doesn't do fan service

If we want to turn the virtual/visual narrative/experience medium of video games into art or at the very least improve their quality, petty senpai service needs to be forgotten

I would think on an anonymous message board, where it is quality of content rather than personal identity matters, it would be obvious

>See something like Trails of Cold Steel adding a bunch of waifus and waifubaiting
>adding
Faggot, waifus have been there since day one. Waifubait is much older than you think.

Pudding?

Didn't Noire also have a male love interest? And Blanc writes her hero and damsel fanfiction. Plutia is the dyke. I think.

Still sexy though.

>You can ignore bad graphics as long as the style is good, but you can't ignore bad voice acting

You can tolerate bad voice acting as much as you can tolerate bad graphics if the gameplay is good.
Also, if most low budget hentai can get moaning girls right, I doubt low budget videogame can't.

No they don't. Also Red Orchestra 2 looks like shit and doesn't have head explosions. And you wouldn't know if your buddy's head exploded because the sound design is so bad that you wouldn't be able to hear him partially because sound direction is terrible and partly because the game has the most obnoxious in your face soundtrack blaring constantly.

Fan service and cute girls are an aesthetic that serve to engage people. It's why there's all these fandoms of cute characters, because the they are a draw and that makes people care about the character, care about the story, and care about the game. That is also immersion because it has your attention, equally as much as the best blood and gore effects (or the worst in the case of TWI).

And graphics are hard to do. That's why fanservice is the great equalizier. The makers of Underaged Panty Quest don't have the time, money, or expertise to waste with cutting edge graphics. They're just doing the best they can. Fanservice is much cheaper, only requiring a handful of talented people, and it accomplishes the same goal of getting people to buy the game and getting people invested in a game.

i'll help you out user.
i have circled the boards for weeaboos on the anime focused imageboard known as Sup Forums

What are some good games that actually don't use or "need" fanservice, in the sexual sense?

I know fanservice is more than the typical upskirt/suggestive outfit, but this is the main thing many think of when that's mentioned, so let's focus focus on that.

I don't really make the distinction. Anything with cute girls.

Of course waifus were there earlier, its impossible to have female characters without someone making them a waifu.
The difference is in what is done with them and how they are treated in the game. Estelle, Schera, and Tita are peoples' waifus, but they aren't treated by the game as waifus. Estelle has her own romance, Schera has her own interests, and Tita has Agate. In Cold Steel, the female characters were made to be waifus and their traits and experiences revolve around that concept (or in this case, MC's dick)

>Like panties
>Get my fill with games like Neptune and Senran
>Don't even like porn, hentai games are too much for me
>Sometimes a guy just wants to see a girl in an "omg s-s-s-s-so embarrassing!" compromising situation, then move on with his life and go back to other games
>This triggers the shit out of my nu-male friends into fucking oblivion
>mfw

Whatever man, just because once in a while I want to take a break with GRIM AND SUPR SRS ACTION GAEM #58982 and go play some anime tiddies doesn't mean I can't still enjoy other games. I don't get how this is a hard concept.

>anime focused imageboard
mind telling me which site that is, because I know it's not this one

Art has naked girls and shit all the time. Serves the same purpose.

That's a load of shit if I've ever seen one. Artists use titties all the time to grab peoples attention.

Go home Pygmalion

Tnqh I find it a bit insulting when games try to make it seem like I'm playing vidya for seeing sexy women. Most of the time it's just out of place or pandering, and I hate blatant pandering.

I didn't post Lightning.

This user gets it.

Now user, you may find this a little bit of a shock but /this/ is the image board known as Sup Forums that is focused on anime! Isn't that amazing!

Luckily the users of Sup Forums have a wide variety of interests outside anime, so you may be able to find some friends to talk to. But don't be too surprised if they also talk about anime around that topic. This is an anime website after all

It was before Sup Forums and and fucking anonymous attracted all you fucking normal fags.
Now fuck off.

This.

Though I probably should take a break from Neptunia since I marathoning them can't be good for my health.

Titillation =/= fan service.

>mfw animeniggers always get triggered as fuck when someone calls them out

never ceases to amuse, really.

>>Sometimes a guy just wants to see a girl in an "omg s-s-s-s-so embarrassing!" compromising situation, then move on with his life and go back to other games

Go watch some ENF then. I don't get the appeal of fan service. If you were looking for titillation you'd search it on the internet.

Nothing, but it's wrong when that's all the game provides.

Nep shit is all fanservice backed by godawful gameplay.

In an age where you have access to all the most fucked up shit you could ever get off to at your fingertips, plebeians have forgotten what tittilation means.

It's the same thing. You're not jerking off to it, it's there to arouse and be appreciated.

>>i wus jus pretendn tu b retrded

Nothing. Anyone who disagrees is a
>raging homo
>boy molesting fruit
>mature games for mature gamer ska pretentious faggot
>nu cuck
Pick any.

raw file dumps. Someone in /nepgen/ was kind enough to assemble them into pictures like the OP.

That's because it is, there are literally zero redeeming qualities about the Neptunia series besides the fanservice

>B-but it's funny

Random XD meme shit isn't funny, see Borderlands, the shit you love to complain about but somehow it's okay when weebshit does it

>But the gameplay is good

Generic JRPG gameplay that's average at best

Literally nothing good except waifubait

>anal
Shame that art that good panders to such a shit fetish.

>Fanservice is much cheaper, only requiring a handful of talented people, and it accomplishes the same goal of getting people to buy the game and getting people invested in a game.

You hardly need a good budget to make a game look nice. Cave Story, Hotline Miami, Bastion, and Limbo all look great.

But I do agree with you on the subject of cute girls. I've never thought of it this way, but it's true that adding cute characters and cutesy art are another very bizarre, but effective way of immersing people.
I guess a game CAN rely of fanservice to be good if it's part of the game's theme and aesthetics. In my opinion, that falls on the game's visual style more than anything (like Cave Story, Bastion, Hotline Miami, and Limbo), but it definitely can be done.

However, I still stand by my argument about graphics heavily improving a game. I wouldn't have had nearly as much fun with MGSV if it didn't look great on my toaster.
Unfinished game aside, if it were solely the missions and mechanics in that game it would be pretty good, but the graphics make it great. Having just about every soldier with a unique and pretty good looking face made them stand out a lot more as individuals and made Motherbase a lot comfier. There is a reason why people were so disappointed to have the Fox Engine wasted on pachinko machines rather than an MGS3 remake.

false, there's anime boards, just like this is the vidoe game board

now stop fucking talking about anime

>animefag calling anyone else a normie
top jej

>raw file dumps
That I understand. I'm just asking why they are upside down. Find it a little hard to believe they are actually stored raw like that.

>world building, tight character development, and political intrigue.
How the fuck do cute girls interfere with any of that?

I'm sick of this American puritan mentality that sexuality is naturally obscene and diminishes other aspects of the work. Lighten the fuck up.

It's less of an American thing and more of a faggot thing, I think. After all, the situation being posited here is "game has qt grills = game is bad"

theres nothing wrong with it, but its like drama or gore in a movie, too much or just that makes it..meh

Pixel co-ordinates start at the top left and go positive down and right.

Could've been an early programming mistake that was easier to fix by having the textures upside down

I will accede that graphics to improve a game's experience, but I would put it on even footing with cute girls. The point I'm arguing is that graphics do more than fanservice. I think they do the job about as well, atlhough I'll think about a game's cute girls for much longer. Long enough that the best graphics become obsolete in that time. Crysis water looked great then, not as much now, but the OoT girls are cute forever.

So that's why to me, people buying a game for cute girls is only as much of a problem as people buying a game solely for graphics. Which is to say, I can understand them even though I don't necessarily agree with them in all cases.

It interferes with it when the character traits of the girls aren't fully developed or are lacking any sort of reality to them so they can cater to self-insertion fantasies. To compare from the same series, Schera is a sensuous and sexy person, but she has other traits that define her and her character doesn't revolve around someone's dick.

>I don't get the appeal of fan service

Then you're just as bad as my friends

You don't like it, ignore it

This is not difficult to understand

That's not a fanservice thing, that's just shit writing.

Self-insert wish-fulfillment faggotry is not fanservice.

We needed more Noire fan service because she's so uptight.

>newgrounds porn games
this is how to spot the normie

you should check out /hgg/ and /hgg2d/ sometime

>cheapest way to sexually arouse normies like yourself OP
Normies get thrown off by sexual shit on videogames.

Yes but I'm trying not to trigger the yurifags.

>Self-insert wish-fulfillment faggotry is not fanservice.
It might not be, but it's notoriously associated with it.

I want to see how tight Noire is.