Is there a more obvious sign that a game is going to be complete ass when there are still virtually no gameplay videos less than 2 months to release and no word from the devs on virtually anything about the game? This is starting to remind me a lot of no mans shit.
>only 2 "gameplay" videos exist, both involve people talking over the gameplay with various trailers and cinematics spread throughout the video >no pure gameplay video exists for this >devs revealed in a post on steam forums that most of what people know about the game isn't accurate or true in any way >no PVP at all, literally none >single player and coop are 2 seperate modes, not a "drop in-drop out" kind of game >single player will have visual player customizatoin >multiplayer will not for some unknown reason >when game was announced there were 5 skill trees confirmed >now been reduced to 3 >only 7 space hulks (ships) that you explore >devs say it takes 45 minutes to an hour and a half to finish each ship >more than likely its going to be 30 minutes or so >single player consists of you and 2 AI >multiplayer is you and 3 other players >again, no visual customization in MP, all players of the same class look identical >can have 4 of the same class in one game >devs have never talked about any of this in interviews or mentioned it to the gaming press at large, this was only just recently revealed in a single post on steam forums that most people will never see
Anybody expecting this game to be anything other than broken garbage deserve to be shot
again and again the shitter will make his shitty thread
Jaxson Gray
Holy shit, this really is shaping up to be no mans lie 2.0
Can't wait for this to come out and see the tears of all the warhammer neckbeards as they try and defend it
Hudson Butler
I agree that some actual gameplay footage would be nice to see but: >muh pvp >muh cosmetics fug off
Caleb Ramirez
Its not the cosmetics that matters, its the fact that single player has them but MP doesn't. That makes no sense for a number of reasons. The fact that this is the case shows the devs don't even know what the fuck they're doing
Angel Reyes
Yes cyanide are horrible and negate any talent steum on has.
Sebastian Carter
No one is forcing you to buy it on the first day retard
Ethan Watson
Players need to be able to quickly recognize who has what weapons and what capabilitys
Luis Lewis
>there are still virtually no gameplay videos Nice try, eternal crusade shill. There are a couple of gameplay videos. Sorry that your scam game is bombing horribly due to stupid business decisions. Also nice list of bullshit you just pulled out of your ass.
Anthony Gonzalez
>list of bullshit >literally posted source at the bottom of OP that has everything OP said Not sure if shitposting or just a fucking retard
Gabriel Gray
>Not sure if Back to le memegag
Jayden Harris
But thats completely wrong? This isn't competitive, at all, you don't need to be able to recognize silhouettes with split second timing, beyond that, its not hard to give each class their own cosmetics, kind of like how every other class based RPG handles it. Also, everyone can use every weapon, class differences are purely based on skills and passives.
Christopher Bailey
Peppered with a bit of assumptions to make it look worse than it is. What kind of retard even plays Eternal Crusade unironically or thinks Deathwing is competing with it in any way? You're a petty cunt who needs to stop posting.
Julian Ross
I'm really hoping it won't be shit. But then again, video games are dead
Kayden Thompson
Deader than the Emperor.
Jayden Lewis
>join room >pink terminator >yellow blue terminator >black pink terminator session ruined, much better when everyone in the team is from the same chapter
Juan Gonzalez
Don't crush my hopes faggot, I'm still holding out hope that Eternal Crusade will be decent.
Parker Robinson
This. MP customization would ruin this game, all the underage faggots would make obnoxious technicolor characters instead of sticking with lore and at least making the terminators resemble canon chapters.
Justin Rogers
While that would be great and all, all signs point to "nope."
Adrian Gonzalez
It was dead the moment they announced they failed their goal. Now it's a shitty tps with f2p tier gameplay mechanics and for some reason no Tau even though they would be the best fit for their current game
Anthony Lewis
>only 2 "gameplay" videos exist, both involve people talking over the gameplay with various trailers and cinematics spread throughout the video >no pure gameplay video exists for this >devs revealed in a post on steam forums that most of what people know about the game isn't accurate or true in any way The marketing is being handled by another company and they have very little to no say on what they're allowed to say
Daniel Walker
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Asher Brown
Can you explain further? I only recently learned of the game (from Sup Forums no less since their marketing is so bad), from what I understand it was supposed to be a PvP and PvE MMO-type of game, with other factions being added in later. But from the gameplay I've seen it looks like a standard TPS. What happened? What did they mean they "failed"? Is the game we see in the early release all we're going to get or will it get better with updates?
Connor Bennett
>no EU servers haha, no thanks
Matthew Wilson
join gr8r gud? gue'la gue'la pls
Henry Mitchell
Half of your "issues" aren't even issues like wtf
>No PVP >single player consists of you and 2 AI >can have 4 of the same class in one game >single player and coop are 2 seperate modes, not a "drop in-drop out" kind of game
Sounds like half the issues are that you don't have any friends to play with desu
Noah Scott
>cant fight in close combat
ayy lmaos go and stay go
Jose Flores
>>cant fight in close combat [source]?
Joshua Robinson
board game
Justin Allen
[source]?
Samuel Brown
The goal was to have premium players play space marines and f2p players play the orks. That way even the poorfags get to join in on the fun and it would make for a good mass multiplayer experience But they lack the ability to make such a game so now we are left with a tps with subpar gameplay and shitty generic maps. Really, just look elsewhere for a good time
Charles Turner
go fucking read the tau codex nigger
Noah Richardson
I own the Tau codex. On which page does it say they can't fight in close combat?
Samuel Ortiz
>spess meren captain walks up to an xv107 with his shiny sword >gets fucking stomped on wew
Camden Young
How is BFG on Steam?
Robert Martinez
>2 months till Deathwing
Thanks for the reminder, almost forgot.
Jacob Davis
>or will it get better with updates? there'll be not many updates if it crash and burn at launch
David Sullivan
But...I want a good Warhammer game. That's the only reason I'm even remotely interested in EC since it looks so subpar. Why the fuck can GW never get a competent dev to make their games? Warhammer lore is wasted on shitty mobile "games" and below average PC/console games, not counting DoW/2 or Space Marine.
Seriously, how hard is it to get a competent dev to make a decent FPS/TPS set in the Warhammer universe?
Landon Russell
What are you on about my dude, that's literally what Deathwing is
Tyler Evans
>Tau >the race that balances itself towards negating half of the gameplay experience for the enemy >would be the best fit for their current game
the spot for best next race is for necrons and you know it
Julian Williams
>third person shooter >the race that represents the natural evolution of tactical modern warfare doesn't fit in a team based shooter
Blake Harris
Except a lot of OP's points are valid concerns for how good this game will be. Namely >only 7 Space Hulks That's a serious lack of content. A big enough lack of content to keep me from buying this.
Kevin Clark
How many space hulks do you want?
Ayden Diaz
>Doesn't want to play as a squishy Tau boarding a Chaos fleet >Doesn't want the feeling of absolutely overwhelming firepower suddenly negated by a corridor ambush, where Tau turn into absolute shit >Doesn't want to live in fear that the Chaos forces are actively learning how to fight the Tau, as more and more of the AI gets picked off over the course of the missions, leaving you and your coop battle bros to fight the monstrosities >Doesn't want to get consumed by the warp at the end, in a fuckheug twist
I disagree with you, essentially.
Joseph Scott
1. Quality over quantity 2. Replayable 3. Is everything you said you wanted 4. Currently 33 dollar dudes
Hunter Richardson
fuck off you fucking troglodyte I hate ALL of you who spout the "pvp is bad" meme
let's look at this from another perspective; >pvp is implemented, ends up being shit: whatever I'll just play the base game >pvp is implemented, ends up being good: wow, the game has newfound depth in that you can choose to play against other human beings instead of just AI
barring that, how about: >oh man, I truly am burned out after doing all the space hulk missions 3 times over; if only there was some kind of fresh feature that would give this even more replayability value"
all this, paired along with the fact that probably the most popular multiplayer survival game of our generation added in a simple pvp mode that ended up being immensely enjoyable, leads me to believe you're only opposed to the implementation of pvp in this because you feel the incessant need to be contrarian
Aiden Long
7 would be fine if each one took hours to complete solo.
An hour a piece (aka SEVEN HOURS of gameplay) is not worth my money. >inb4 muh multiplayer replayability How long do you think a game with only 7 different maps will stay interesting?
Nathan Ross
not when map design and balance of factions factor in roughly 50% of the experience to be close combat and the average infantryman to be a space marine not that it wouldn't be possible to give tau effective breacher teams or kroots to fill the role without making tau completely antifun to play against, but necrons are easier to insert and fit better with the intentions of the game
Parker Hughes
>How long do you think a game with only 7 different maps will stay interesting? You're forgetting DLC
Landon Kelly
There are 7 space hulks and a total of 9 levels that each take around an hour to complete. Literally the first thing in OP's source
Ayden Robinson
Not that faggot, but I don't like PvP.
However, it means that I'm ambivalent towards it, if it's included then I don't really care. Its inclusion would probably mean more people playing coop though.
Eli King
>over 60 hours of MANDATORY gameplay FAGS OFFICIALLY
BTFO T F O
Cameron Moore
And I just said that that's a serious lack of content. A game focusing on replayability should have more environments than that. Less than 10 environments will get boring very fast.
Hunter Ortiz
>m m muh pvp For $33 you get a great game with great gameplay It's made by a small studio so unless you donate a humble 500 000 you can buy it or shut up
Blake Hall
Name a game that has 10 environments. All shooters just have a bunch of samey levels with 2-3 different environments max
Anthony Hernandez
Close combat and melee are different things. Stuff like flamethrowers, airbursting fragmentation projectors, fusion blasters to an extent are all solid close combat weapons. A team of Crisis suits tooled for close combat can jump into the fray and make a short and bloody work of most targets.
Well, and there's that one Ethereal who stopped Orks from overrunning a city with a sharp knife on a pike.
Camden Brooks
>2 warhammer tps are made >one even has other factions than marines >but tyranids are always npc
Kayden Ramirez
Depends what the environments are senpai.
7 different corridors is absolute bullshit, 7 huge ships with multiple levels, environments, things to do is a bit different.
Tyler Ross
You are mistaken user. Theres not 9 levels in each space hulk. There are 7 separate Space Hulks or "Areas" and nine levels or "Story Chapters" that takes place over the course of these areas. Each Chapter takes around an hour.
So around 8 1/2-10 hours of solo gameplay
Kayden Sanchez
I don't know OP. Seemed pretty good when I played it at Gamescon.
Jaxson Lewis
Hey user what's your favourite space marine chapter?
I really like the black templars
Grayson Bell
Me too brother.
Kevin Jones
Imperial Fists. I have a hard on for defensive structures and siege weapons.
Lincoln Sanders
That's 3 more levels then Left4Dead2 at launch though.
>b-but they're a small studio fuck off you muppet doesn't matter how small of a studio they are, they still need to make a game that's good in proportion to the price they're charging
and not implementing pvp when it's been a prevalent in a multitude of popular MP survival games fails to convince me that they're making a game as great as you make it out to be
Tyler James
I'm a Tau weeaboo fgt, but I've always like the blood angels, second favourite army to fight on SoulStorm
Parker Garcia
I know better than to get my hopes up by now and yet I still look forward to Deathwing
I just want to believe Streum On can make another game as great as E.Y.E and we'll finally get another good 40k game so long after Space Marine. If they just made Left 4 Dead with Terminators, had custom map support and kept the game updated fairly regularly they'd have an instant classic.
I'm glad I didn't get too invested in EC after how it turned out at least
Camden Ortiz
Iron Warriors
Come at me niggers, I'm behind seven Eternal Fortresses
Cameron Foster
Oh just shut up you raging retard, you've been sperging at anyone that gives you a pity reply You are absolutely wrong about this and the game will be worth every penny
Jonathan James
Any answer that isn't Salamanders is a beta answer
Isaiah Thompson
First founding, Salamanders Overall probably Exorcists even though there's next to no fluff on them other than 'Better Grey Knights with less mary sue and worse gear' but they have a rad colour scheme and insignia
Wyatt Howard
the only way it can survive is if they manage to keep on balancing, updating and adding stuff after the game launches at a steady pace. terminators, wraithguards and meganobz are a start but I doubt they will see enough incomes to justify too much additional work.
Logan Hall
Why do you build fortresses to guard nothing and why do the astartes try to attack them despite their lack of strategic value?
Zachary Reyes
Emperor's Children
Tyler Moore
All of the sons of Dorn honor the Emperor with their service
Samuel Jenkins
Fuck yeah Daemonculaba!
Nathaniel Sullivan
>8-10 hours of solo gameplay FUCKING DROPPED KEK HOLY SHIT
Blake White
You wouldn't understand, you are not astrartes.
2complex4u
Jaxson Jones
beat me to it my Nocturnean-American
Fists are also a patrician choice minus the self-harm, and Wolves were great before 5e made them full-on furries
Kayden Anderson
>still not addressing any of my points and immediately going straight for an ad hominem approach i don't know what I expected from arguing someone who shills so blatantly and shamelessly, but (You) got me, pal
take solace in the fact that not everyone is gullible enough to gobble up another warhammer survival game after the abortion that was Vermintide
William Wright
It's made by Streum On so I can trust them completely to make an interesting game.
Ayden Smith
>only 2 "gameplay" videos exist, both involve people talking over the gameplay with various trailers and cinematics spread throughout the video Don't care, doesn't say anything about the quality of the game. >no pure gameplay video exists for this Don't care. >devs revealed in a post on steam forums that most of what people know about the game isn't accurate or true in any way Ok? >no PVP at all, literally none Fuck PvP. Not every game needs forced PvP. >single player and coop are 2 seperate modes, not a "drop in-drop out" kind of game Ok? >single player will have visual player customizatoin Cool I guess. >multiplayer will not for some unknown reason Don't need to be a special snowflake to purge some xenos. >when game was announced there were 5 skill trees confirmed >now been reduced to 3 Pretty lame if true. >only 7 space hulks (ships) that you explore "Only"? Jesus, how many do you want at launch? >devs say it takes 45 minutes to an hour and a half to finish each ship >more than likely its going to be 30 minutes or so Complete speculation on your part. >single player consists of you and 2 AI Ok. >multiplayer is you and 3 other players Ok. >again, no visual customization in MP, all players of the same class look identical Don't care, again. >can have 4 of the same class in one game So? >devs have never talked about any of this in interviews or mentioned it to the gaming press at large, this was only just recently revealed in a single post on steam forums that most people will never see They fucked up.
Angel Myers
hol up
Tyler Edwards
Minotaurs
Chase Lee
Salamanders aren't niggers.
Their skin is black like coal not brown like shit.
Carson Gray
You don't have points retard, you just drone on about wanting pvp
Parker Adams
>Is there a more obvious sign that a game is going to be complete ass when there are still virtually no gameplay videos less than 2 months to release and no word from the devs on virtually anything about the game?
It might or it might not be. Just wait until it's out and watch some videos. Don't preorder games like an idiot.
Luke Reed
>it's a Salamanders are nogs because they have jet black skin but caucasian features episode
ay yo fuck you white boi we wuz princez n shiet befo da dark eldah came n shiet we built da muthafuckin mount deathfire
Jeremiah Brown
>Nocturnians are the same as Earth niggers Purge yourself
Gavin Smith
You said Iron Warriors
Why do you keep posting Black Legion?
Jose Evans
Is there a better rivalry?
Austin Lee
>jealous butthurt autists >rivals of the sons of Dorn.
Owen Roberts
they're in my initial post but you're, again, too busy shilling to take any dissenting post into consideration
Levi Green
Because there is barely any good iron warriors artwork.
Juan Fisher
1. your stupid ass is not important enough for paid adverts on this god forsaken site 2. If you mean the "points" in the OP then pack up and go home, because it sounds like a child's rambling
Connor Carter
WE
Owen Fisher
Shit Chapter Shit Artwork
Adrian Cook
they aren't black, their skin is a very dark grey.