Why do people hate this? Also, what is the best New Vegas DLC and why is it Old World Blues?

Why do people hate this? Also, what is the best New Vegas DLC and why is it Old World Blues?

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The only reason I can imagine is because the dialogue with Ulysses gets kinda old after a while, and its almost as linear as Dead Money

All in all it's still a fantastic dlc

I can't speak for everybody but I thought it was very linear, full of bullet sponge marked men and Ulysses dialogue is such a chore to listen to on repeated playthroughs.

Because it was the final piece of New Vegas which I never wanted to end

>There will never be a good Fallout game again

since Fallout 4 brought back interactive wheels i hope you can interact with objects now and finally bring back the long lost "USE ITEM ON" feature.

an example of why this is important:

>you enter a cave
>you see a very dark hole in the cave wide enough to fit one person at a time
>you have no idea how deep it is
>you need to get a flare and throw it down the hole
>then you need rope to climb down
>you choose which party member to send down the hole first

IT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO DO THIS IN THE FIRST-PERSON FALLOUTS

It's sad that the worst NV dlc is still miles better than the best Fo4 dlc.

*press e
*press e
*press e and choose who to send down

It's a linear romp through shit town and then you're "rewarded" with listening to Ulysses' pseudo intellectual bullshit. The riot gear is top notch though.

Dead Money - haven't played
OWB - the best
Honest Hearts - I'm finally having fun. It's over.
Lonesome Road - haven't played.

MUH BEAR
MUH BULL
MUH FLAG
MUH HISTORY

It's Fallout turned into a linear "corridor" shooter. It's boring and doesn't play to the strengths of the engine.

Also, all that Ulysses teasing they did turned out to be a big load of nothing.

How is it possible that you haven't played Dead Money?, play it right fucking now

>tfw you can't let go

i'm trying to make new Traits. I got 8 of them so far and I really look forward to sharing them with you, but I still need to tweak some things.

I really wanted to make a perk or trait that gave you extra bottle caps every time you passed a Barter skill check but there is no fucking way you could implement this.

story-wise its not great, but i loved the environment. i'd take a linear map that is interesting with care given to it like Lonesome Road over an empty boring open world map like Honest Hearts any day

>New Vegas gets DLC that genuinely ties into the story, or at least makes some sense in-world
>Fallout 3 gets a bunch of lolsorandom wacky shit that no one asked for and an Enclave DLC that doesn't expand upon the story or evolve on the factions beyond "good guy bad guy"
>Fallout 4 gets a bunch of lolsorandom wacky shit that outright breaks any sort of continuity

I played Dead Money with an endgame courier and it was fun not being a unstoppable tank for once.

>about to defuse nuke
>sudden stroke
>accidentally nuke everyone

whoops, sorry Mojave

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tl;dr - Pickpocket is broken.

the modifier for "value in caps" is set way too high and you can literally steal a 40 pound suit of power armor that is totally broken with a 99% success rate because it has no value, but you can't steal something that doesn't weigh anything if it valued over 200 caps. Also for some weird reason the NPC's sneak skill is checked to match your sneak skill instead of something more important LIKE PERCEPTION.

OWB was the worst

way to much repetition

stupid fucking tests and running around

It is the second best FNV dlc. It actually gives back story to the courier. Plus the divide, albiet linear, is far more unique and lively than Zion national park. We can all agree, that big mt. Is the pinnacle of open world dlc in fallout.

>Game appeal is about it's exploration and ability to solve problems in multiple ways
>Extremely linear and for the most is attack focused
>Ulysses, the most hyped up character in the whole game, is really whiny, Joshua Graham could and would make him his bitch
I also felt it expanded the level cap way too high making you OP as fuck but that's just me.

Let's not pretend that Old World Blues doesn't exist.

what do you mean by that? Oh. Don't tell me you're one of those people who haven't beaten it.

>dead money
>constant feeling of dread
>get close to ringing the bell
>that ambience
>finish the casino
>its finally over
>everything is quiet again
>head back into the mojave
>over encumbered to shit
>couldnt take all the gold bars

Eh I liked it mostly for the setting. Felt spooky..

You aren't seriously arguing that OWB is not "lolsorandom wacky shit", are you?

define what you consider is random. Also I don't want to spoil the plot twist.

I honestly didn't like Old World Blues. The humor of it got old before that really long opening dialogue ends. All the enemies were pretty boring and were essentially just bullet sponges, and I quickly ran out of ammo, and spent most of the game just using melee. Which is fine, but got fucking old. I honestly don't even remember the end of it. I just powered through it end never went back.

Despite being linear, I thought it fit well as a conclusion, and enjoyed it more than Dead Money. Also best armor.

>install dead money
>go to the place
>wake up in a spooky casino courtyard filled with ghosts
>nope right the fuck out, reload and go back to the Mojave

I didnt come back for a few more levels.

>getting hit by spears every 3 seconds

Ive played it, I've beaten it, it's no better than any of the "lolsorandom wacky shit" than Fallout 3 had as it's DLC.

Wasn't one of those about getting your brain back too? Or at least a piece of it.

To be fair the game flat out tells you that you should be fairly in your midlate game to play.

>yfw RAWR

>I honestly didn't like Old World Blues.
>I quickly ran out of ammo
>I honestly don't even remember the end of it. I just powered through it end never went back.

>Go in as unarmed
>Bear trap fists do bonus damage to limbs
>Limb loss instantly kills all enemies in DM
Breaks the atmosphere a bit but I've never had such fun hunting all of the fucks down

Oh I was within the level requirement it was just 2spooky for me.

>Wasn't one of those about getting your brain back too?
yes, that is the main quest. are you sure you beat it?

Too linear.
Boring.
Bad writing.
Hardly any characters, all unlikable outside of the bayformers bumble-bee ripoff robot.

Not to mention all the enemies were bullet sponges.

It was parodying 50's sci-fi and was funny, what of it.

Also Fallout 3, while mediocre, I found Point Lookout and the Pitt (had game of GOTY, little to no bugs) were good. Operation Anchorage, the Brotherhood one and Mothership Zeta are in fact shit but that's because it had the same overtly linear style of Lonesome Road without the hype that made LR marginally interesting.

Fallout 3 has many problems but I never thought "the humor" was one of them and comparing it's more glaring issues like the writing and plot it seems to be downright nitpicky.

>stupid fucking tests
you only needed to do it that one time and the other times are optional and upgrades the suit

>Not to mention all the enemies were bullet sponges.
the base game is easy as shit. are you seriously complaining about increased difficulty? i bet you don't even play on Hardcore Mode.

Oh, I forgot, it added unnecessary backstory to my player character that I never wanted and broke immersion. Funny how New Vegas ended up being a sneak peak of Fallout 4 in that way.

Making enemies into bullet sponges is not the way to make a game more difficult.

There are plenty of anti-robot weapons, and there are shotgun/automatic weapons for the unarmored enemies.

>player gets stronger and is more than well-equipped to handle virtually any obstacle
>enemies should be weak all the time

I meant one of the Fallout 3 DLC was about getting your brain back.

>It was parodying 50's sci-fi and was funny, what of it.

You are being generous. It was mostly a rip off of The Venture Bros. which is a parody of old cartoons not from the 50s.

i never played Fallout 3 and i never will.

>a rip off of The Venture Bros
do you even know who voices one of the doctors of the Think Tank?

That's the only good part of that DLC.
New Vegas DLC was such a disappointment.

My point was it's not so much a parody of 50s sci-fi as it is a rip off of a cartoon parodying 70s cartoons.

I don't really care that they are aware of the fact they are being thoroughly unoriginal. I don't even care that they are unoriginal.

It's just amazing to me that you can take the stance that OWB is not "lolsorandom wacky shit". Obsidian fanboys are truly deluded.

>Obsidian fanboys are truly deluded.
and this is where i don't want to talk to you. how am i a fanboy? this is the only game i purchased from them because i felt it was the closest thing i would ever get to a real Fallout game.

There is no fanboying anywhere and for you to be so paranoid because nobody is agreeing with you just shows how stupid you are.

>There is no fanboying anywhere

You passed judgement over Fallout 3 and it's DLC declaring it "lolsorandom wacky shit" despite the fact that you admit "i never played Fallout 3 and i never will."

The fact that you feel completely justified in making those declarations from a position of complete and utter ignorance while also praising Obsidian for doing things it isn't actually doing is what makes you a fanboy. That sort of blind devotion and intellectual dishonesty are the key traits of fanboyism.

Reminder that the Republic was more like Rome and the Legion are cosplaying pussies.

>Fallout is a good series meme

Top wew lad.

>what is the best New Vegas DLC
Dead Money
>why is it Old World Blues?
it isn't

Because that nigga was speaking to me as if our history was mutual. It was just his one-sided headcanon, so I wiped him off the planet

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(you)

Idk I loved it, it's probably my favorite DLC.

I don't think people hate it, they just don't like it compared to better DLCs.

It's like how people feel about Cherry Dr. Pepper. It's not bad, it's just not as good.

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Old World Blues > Dead Money > Lonesome Road > Honest Hearts

>empty boring open world map like Honest Hearts any day

Was it really? Maybe I'm not remembering it properly, but it had a decent story, great colour palette and quite a few decent finds, remembering back to the pics anons posted of the dead guy's book story thingy

Dead Money > Old World Blues > Honest Hearts + Lonesome Road

It's linear because it's literally a lonesome road. It's like pottery, it rhymes. Really makes you think, huh?

How about some tips for someone who is going to play Lonesome Road for the first time?

No it isn't you fucking uncultured mong. Have you ever seen Forbidden Planet?

May I have sauce for that ui mod?

>Lonesome road
>Expect it to at least try to be lonely and a good reflecting wrap up to the story
>Ulysseus chimes in way too much. Should have heard him once at the start maybe and then a final confrontation
>The Lonesome Road features having a giant quirky floating ball of metal with you the entire time for companionship

Even though Ulisses is an interesting character, the dlc is awful, even worse than mothership.

anyone else play OWB before DM? i did it my first play through and found it more interesting to find all the stuff about elijah and christine and then actually meet them in the spoopy casino

4 is more fun imo

>Fallout isnt wacky, its a serious game franchise

Agreed.

Dead Money and Lonesome Road are linear as fuck.

Honest Hearts was boring and Grahamn was a letdown

OWB seemed too dumb with the humor, but it was probably the best DLC


Honest Hearts would have been great if Bethesda made it. It would be like Far Harbor where you could invade Zion with the legion or take Joshua back to the Mojave as a companion. I loved how 4's DLC actually tied into the main game.

>why do people hate this

I'll tell you

>oblivion tier level scaling
>zero enemy variety
>pretentious when it had no right to be
>lots of buildup with no payoff

It's still fucking annoying if you're a completionist.

Who cares. Game is shit.

(you)

Ulysses is terrible. The only part that I liked was the ed-e upgrades.

Yeah, but it's pretty much the only form of increased difficulty Gamebryo can handle. Enemy AI doesn't seem to understand the first thing about cover or squad tactics. There are mods that improve it somewhat but it's still surpassed by even a game as old as the first Half-Life with its HECU Marines.

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>Graham was a letdown

Fight me IRL

The DLC was linear, yet I actually liked it, especially when you were given the option to nuke someone.

I was disappointed with Ulysses. I thought he'd be kore ontelligent and threatening than he was. I expected a more relatable Elijah. Instead I could see through his bullshit even when I was a teenager when the dlc came out.

That and using a face mask for Ulysses instead of just a normal face was inexcusable. I have no idea why they thought that was a good idea. The man didn't blink.

Why did you like Lonesome Road?

Is it possible to finish all companions quest on a single playthrough?

yes. why wouldn't it be?

It's an incredibly ambiguous backstory though. All it boils down to is, "Courier Six was in California and took a package to a place in the Divide before going to the Mojave". Literally every other detail is up to you and/or deniable.

It seems that certain story points are triggering these quests, at least for Boone.

Yeah, Point Lookout. It's not your whole brain though, just a tiny piece. Also, it's not really the focal point of the DLC. None of that changes your stats either, besides a perk that makes you take less limb damage to your head.

not main storyline as far as i know