Toby's retrospective on Undertale:

>Though it was released almost a year ago, I have the same opinion of it.

>It’s about an 8/10, niche RPG game.

>If you like the characters and the humor, you’ll probably like it, and forgive it for its flaws.

>If you don’t, you’ll probably hate it.

>Surprisingly, there are many people who like this type of game. Though I did work hard, there’s definitely a lot of luck involved in having a game become this popular. So, it wouldn’t surprise me if I never made a game as successful again. That’s fine with me though.

>Not only did I not expect this level of popularity, but initially, I was afraid of it. I didn’t want UNDERTALE to become tiring for people, or become spoiled before anyone even got a chance to play it. Early on (this was probably excessive) I even tried to contact certain Let’s Players to tell them not to make any content about it.

>But, the game became very popular. Unavoidable, even. At the height of its popularity, “not liking the game” felt like a cardinal sin to many fans online. In reaction to these circumstances, others began actively hate the game, creating an endless whirlwind of discourse…

>Like a thunderclap to a small dog, all of this attention stressed me out. And every time it seemed to die down, something revived it, such as the GameFAQs contest, the award shows, bizarre theory videos, and so on. At times, I wished I had a way to quell the attention. I felt a strange powerlessness. (And guilt, for feeling stressed when the success of the game SHOULD be something I’m nothing but ecstatic about.)

Cont.

>At the same time, countless wonderful things were happening. People told me the game helped them through a difficult part of their life. Others told me that the game had made them laugh, or cry, or say “I want to be kinder.” Many young kids told me they wanted to create games or music because of it. And, on a personal level, because of its popularity, I have been able to help myself and many people in my life. (And, hopefully, in the future, I can help many other people because of it, too.)

>So, ultimately, it’s a good thing that the game reached so many people, and I’m very, very, very, very, very, very, thankful to everyone that supported it, and everyone that helped me make it.

>Thank you.

>And thank you to anyone who has created fanworks for this game over the past year. I’ve been in fandoms my whole life. I drew Cave Story characters in the margins of my 7th grade history class notes. So it’s amazing to see something I created incite a similar passion in other people.

>Someday, UNDERTALE will fade from people’s minds. But, I’m sure in 10 years, some kid who played UNDERTALE will create a game that surpasses it…

>I look forward to playing that.

>Tomorrow, on UNDERTALE’s anniversary, let’s have a fun time. I am thinking I will open the askbox, and…

>Bark.

Opinions?

>Rating your own game an 8/10

So humble

Nothing of particular note. Seems like a reasonable person.

sounds normal.

typical high profile indie dev nonsense.

He seems really nice, chill and humble, outside of giving his own game an 8/10, that is.

>allow me to rate my own game shit/10 because I'm insecure Sup Forumsirgin who didn't make a fuckload of money and fans with one game

To be fair, didn't he already have fans of his music from the Homestuck crowd?

liking something you did isn't really wrong.

Fair enough but it seems weird to give yourself such a high rating.
It could just be that I don't understand liking something I've made.

>bizarre theory videos

Okay but what if

And this is just a theory mind you

What if Sans was actually Ness from Earthbound

In videogame critic circles, 8/10 isn't that much
numbers are fucking retarded anyway, but 5/10 isn't average in this climate, user. it's dogshit.

I mean once you get to a certain skill level you learn to stop hating things you make and just enjoy them. Do you think that doujin authors don't rub one out to their creations?

Fair enough.
Critics should probably fix their shit and start rating all games lower so we get back to what should be normal.

never made anything myself but when we put a lot of effort into something have you ever felt like you worked hard but you know there are things you could have done better at the same time? either way I guess we have no way of knowing if that's how he thinks

It's healthy to not think the stuff you make is the best stuff ever, but at the same time you don't need to get all down on yourself and criticize yourself no matter what. This guy is an indie dev who made the game he wanted to make as best he could, and if he's happy enough with the result that he'd call it an 8/10, then I'm happy for him.

I have not played Undertale.

Personally, I give it a 10. But I know he's just being modest so that the next game will be 10092928835284/10.

That would never be a successful theory, especially not in video format, waste of time.

Maybe this is why I keep losing motivation to make anything.
Positivity isn't my strong suit.

>I have not played Undertale.

And why havent you played the GOAT?!

I mean
I loved it, but I think I'd give it an eight as well.

I keep trying to detach my emotional response from how good the game is in terms of actually being a game.

>"Undertale is GOAT"
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I know it shouldn't matter to me but shit dude how do I not laugh at this coincidence

Oh, believe me, I suck at following my own advice. I hate doing writing work, hated it in school and hate it now in university, because nothing is ever good enough.

Toby made the game he wanted to play. I think he's of that sort of detached mindset

>Not making a game you'd like

How to fail right out of the gate.

>He seems really nice, chill and humble

Yeah, exactly what he wants people to think of him.

Focusing on your flaws and nitpicking it to shit will seriously hinder your ability to actually make anything while thinking you're the next messiah will prevent you from progressing, look at Chris-chan. You just need to keep practicing till you can get to a point where you can say, "hey that's pretty good" without outside validation and expand from there.

as a car salesman I can appreciate when a person knows how to put on a personality for the public as opposed to these idiot devs that do what they can to piss everyone off so it's no problem there.

I mean
I would prefer someone who's genuinely nice and humble but I see your point.

hard mode when
non shit final boss when

This reminds me, who was that one guy who got his game pulled from Steam because he started sending death threats to Gabe about some error on the store page?

Unless I see evidence to the contrary I don't get why I would assume he's faking it, that just seems like unhealthy paranoid thinking.

Giving yourself any rating is weird
You just dont do that, what the hell.

My uncle at Undertale says Toby is prone to violent megalomaniacal outbursts and asks for pineapple on his pizza.

hey don't get me wrong, I'd prefer if every dev was like Pixel for instance, but if he can at least keep a good image up then that leaves the possibility that he's at least not a total shit. if he acts like a shit out for everyone to see, well the chances of someone faking THAT aren't too good at that point.

Because everyone has to be conspiring in some way. They always have an ulterior motive. It's outrageous to think that someone can just be nice.

Paranautical Activity.
He released his game but the Steam page still listed it as Early Access. He then flew off the handle, saying that he will kill Gabe and all that.

He's a furfag. They're all sociopaths.

I think it's this "Master Vallisca" guy from what I remember, or at least I think that's his twitter. guy was a complete fucking idiot to say the least.

What makes Pixel different, though? I actually haven't kept up with him so I don't know what makes him different honestly.
I thought they were both just as humble-seeming.

Yeah, that was it. Thanks m8

really just that pixel has had a really long time to keep up the appearance that I'm personally willing to believe he's genuinely like that.

I enjoyed it a lot. I wish genocide wasn't a rushed route, because Genocide Undyne and Genocide Sans were some of the best fights in the game.
You can clearly see he never went back to fix things. Like why didn't Papyrus have a battle sprite when he had animations in his dating scenes?
And when can I fight Annoying Dog, Toby? When?

Has one of the worst fanbases I've ever seen, on part with Steven Universe.

>but initially, I was afraid of it

I bet he was, until he made millions of dollars.

>tfw you will never make a small indie game and become rich

Why would toby be a furfag?

Let's be honest, I enjoyed the game and liked the characters but it is a 3/5 and it would be a 2/5 if it weren't for the music
The gameplay is repetitive with the one saving grace being dodging enemy attacks in battle, the graphics are inconsistent and hard mode not being in the game just felt like a decision made out of laziness

Sadly the fanbase thing is accurate, even though some (very very few mind you) of the "AUs" are actually semi-decent when done correctly. Underfell is great when it's purposely over-the-top saturday morning cartoon villain shit

>made a furfag game
>has a fursona
>randomly injects animal noises into his sentences
No idea.

I don't know if I'd say laziness, I'd say more time constraints considered he only had like two and a half years to work on it and it was very nearly a one-person effort.

>Toby hid Samuel's horrible vore furfag OC away but still took his money

Makes him a hero in my books

>Talking shit about games you've never played
>Source: My ass
>Source: My ass

>So Sorry
one month after Undertale

I feel kind of bad for Toby in that case, honestly.
I read some stuff about what happened there, and apparently Toby was worried that the guy who made that OC would get a lot of hate (which he did) so Toby offered him his money back.

The game would have been probably done much faster if it weren't for his game basically being a tangled mess of spaghetti code programming wise, it seems more like he said fuck it and gave up to the idea of making a second playthrough

Isn't most of that AU just edgy stuff though?

>dog fursona

SO he's an Other-kin :^)?

seven months after Undertale

Why would undertale be a furfag game? The goats are clearly demons more than anything else, and there are plenty of monsters that don't look like humanoid animals, but noone accuses the game of pandering to those with polygon fetishes.

I thought the whole dog thing was him taking after the earthbound maker who did the same thing.

Who was in the wrong here?

Some of the AUs are edgy garbage, but most of them are just stupid.
UnderSwap (literally just swapping the bodies of the "pairs" i.e Sans and Papyrus or Undyne and Alphys) is cancer even though Sans is adorable in it.
Horrortale is just edgy garbage if not a somewhat interesting take on what would realistically happen if a civilization were thrust underground if they weren't monsters and required compassion and whatever to survive.
Then there's shit like Aftertale which, even though I'm keeping up with it, it focuses too much on Sans because he's the favourite character of everyone and god fucking forbid you stray from that.

What makes me laugh is that nobody gave a shit about Samuel's sob story a few days later.

He convinced the furry to have him hide it because he was so fucking embarrassed to be working with him and then Toby tried to flat out give him a refund just to get him out of the game but he refused
I wish I could have contacted the faggot and convinced him to have Toby make his fursona a mandatory fight

>some let's players actively avoided playing the "secret character" so their young viewers wouldn't look up a vore OC

I'm just going by what the furfag said, honestly, he could have been lying about the situation.
Regardless, I'm glad it was hidden away, even though Toby somehow found a way to make the OC not total cancer.

The one good thing LPers have done in this world.

Realistically, Toby should have given the dude criticism from the start and told him to either improve the character or get refunded, telling him it's fine when he was clearly embarrassed by it is kind of a shitty thing to do
But if he would be a faggot about anyone telling him to improve on his fedora wearing "butter dragon" at that point and not be willing to listen, then he can suck a dick

At no point did this guy ever ask himself "Is it a good idea to try and include my fursona for my fat fetish in this guys game and just not tell him about what it actually is?"

wait, who is that guy? I missed out on the whole drama but it sounds interesting

Toby is the guy who made Undertale, the other guy is the one who made So Sorry

Toby is a bit of a pussy but furries don't ever budge on their shitty OCs.

I'm sure Toby figured out what "So Sorry" was after a quick google search.

To be frank, i kinda dislike sans, well, not dislike but i'm bored that everyone keep sucking his glowing blue cock and because Mettaton is way superior

look man, the dude draws inflation force-feeding/vore shit with his 'butter dragon' fatsona, nothing rational can be assumed here

it's a fat fetish/transformation/vore oc

I'm sure he did find out pretty quickly, that's not my point. I'm talking about before he even decided to try and get his character in the game, not once did he wonder "hey maybe this isn't a really good idea to force on someone"

Dude's autistic, so he really doesn't consider how fucking awful his character is to other people

>mettaton neo will never be a real fight

Therefore as it is written, the autism is in the wrong here.

Samuel is an autistic furry. Toby wanted that $3000.

I love, love love love, that So Sorry is a thing that exists that detractors and fans alike can look down upon together.

Yeah I got that, I don't know what's up with the guy who made So Sorry though. I didn't even fight him when I played the game. Was he known for blogging about being an autistic fat fuck or what?

The greater enemy that unites age old enemies. Basically, So Sorry is Hitler.

>Game doesn't give you pacifist ending for sparing everyone but So Sorry and Jerry
Defend this
He was just some furry who donated enough money to the Kickstarter to get a "put your own character in Undertale as a boss"

>That UT defense force
These threads are boring now

The hate train has moved on user.

he paid to have his fursona be a boss.

I don't understand the outrage behind it though, since it only appears in a secret location on a certain date so the chances of finding it without actively trying to are slim to none.

I knew about So Sorry not ruining your pacifist ending, but Jerry?

>mfw

Is this was 1998 then most people would never find it. But everyone uses the internet now so I still see him often enough.

again
>without actively trying to

You actually have to change your computer's calendar to see him in the game. Nothing is forcing you to do that.

it's really unfortunate that this guy was inflicted with the fanbase that he created

Killing Jerry or So Sorry will end your pacifist run.

Do you think he started drinking when the Undertale fanbase did the "Down with Cis" stuff unironically?

He's trying to sound like his hero Itoi.

He's not old enough to drink

It's funny because he didn't say that before.

He kept humble bragging about how the game was shit and he couldn't believe it was actually a success.

He's going to be 25 in a few months.

I am so jealous of him.

I wish I done something with the last 5 years instead of just playing video games. Then at least I could be a rich NEET like Toby.

Now I have a job.

then my point still stands. he was an example of what I said, before growing a testicular spine and owning up to his talent.

I didn't particularly like Undertale and I think his analysis of who will and will not like it is pretty spot on. It's refreshing to see somebody that had a wild success and didn't get a wildly inflated ego from it.

he's 17. What are you talking about?

This isn't 2009 user. He isn't making music for Homestuck anymore.

He bragged about how he got a better metacritic score than MGSV and talked about how trolls are gonna give him game bad scores now because of it.

His ego is huge.