Honestly I don't know if I could play the original System Shock simply because of how old it is...

honestly I don't know if I could play the original System Shock simply because of how old it is, but number 2 looks cool just wondering if it's essential to play the first one.

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It's not essential. The intro and references to the previous game might not make very much sense but you will probably understand most of what is going on. I played 2 like 5 years before I played 1.

thanks man

It's not necessary. However, the original is a far better game than the sequel.

The old Mad Max's were shit

Fury Road is the best

Mighty fine bait

Not bait. Watched the old ones and they are just so bad. Good for their time maybe, but compared to fury road. Wtf.

How old are you, and did you watch fury road before seeing the other ones?

This is very important to judge your character. You might just be a product f the social conditioning program and this generation, and it might not be your fault that your taste is so fucking shit.

>Games can possibly look too old to you
>Doesn't like Beyond Thunderdome

user you've already got two massive strikes against you

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Fury Road first

I like when things look good. My millineal instincts tell me to turn away if it doesn't look good, except Star Wars. I can be entertained easily by those old movies.

Some old games look and play like shit, like star wars battlefront 2.

Il agree they look like shit, sure, but I don't think they play like shit. Battlefront II played as good as any other shooter released on PS2.

The only assumption I can make is that you're too young to be posting here

>says Battlefront II is shit

It's not essential, but 1 is better than 2.

>battlefront 2.
>Shit
I know neo/v/reddit is real but holy shit

Compared to how things play now, old games r shit man, with a few exceptions. I'm more than old enough to post here

Even reddit would say bf2 was good. I didn't like it.

Mad Max > Mad Max 2 (Road Warrior in Burgerland) = First Half of Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome > Fury Road > Rest of Beyond Thunderdome

You all disgust me.

>That second half of Thunderdome
What the fuck were they thinking?

I thought Sup Forums was for 18+ ?

I think that it might have been a separate script about a guy finding a wrecked plane and kids in a desert that was folded into Mad Max because somebody important decided that they liked both ideas and only had the money to make one movie.

Also I think I might remember reading that George Miller was going through a really rough point in his life then and wasn't really in any condition to produce good work.

>things only hipsters say

kids these days

I don't know if I would put the first movie above The Road Warrior considering even the director admits that it's nothing more than over the top exploitation rubbish.

Any artist who doesn't claim to hate their old work is lying. What does George Miller know about Mad Max beyond putting it together? Mad Max is in league with 'Death Wish' and 'Dirty Harry.' Mean and violent works to be sure, but they meant something. All three movies star violent heroes, but violence isn't treated as a victory, it's presented as the defeat of idealism, a compromise made with virtue and civility in the name of resisting the pure barbarism of our time. Academy Awards have gone to movies less thoughtful than these.

And also the first Mad Max is in my opinion quite well directed and grounded for what it's going for. The chases are tense and intimate while the scenery still looks nice enough to make all of the carnage tainting it seem like a genuine shame as opposed to the simple state of the world.

The sequels are the over the top exploitation rubbish. The violence stops being explored and starts to degenerate into revelry and spectacle. These elements were present in the first movie but the questions raised gave them a higher purpose. What purpose does Immortan Joe having his face ripped off serve beyond giving teenagers something to cheer at?

>bought Mad Max and MGS V the same day
>expected to love MGSV and mildly enjoy Mad Max
>ended up loving Mad Max and mildly enjoying MGS V

bravo

While I do agree, more or less, I believe you mistake me for someone defending Fury Road.

I do believe the original three are in a league of their own, while Fury Road was just action for the sake of action. No questions, no story. Just "lol flamethrower witness me patriarchy! xDD"

The story was he .. wait wtf was it about?

I'm not intending to shame anybody or bust balls, I just feel obliged to champion the first movie whenever the series is brought up.

If I don't who will?

The whole point of Immortan Joe's death scene is to show the faction that replaces him will be just as violent and barbaric as he was, the entire cycle of violence continues.

Sorry if it was too complicated for you to grasp.

1 has aged far worse than 2 so I wouldn't blame you for skipping it, especially when a remake is being worked on anyway.

Other than some of the models 2 has aged great though so if you've played any other early 2000s fps/rpgs you'll be fine jumping in there. Storywise they sum up the important parts in the intro to 2

The old MM was good. Fury Road is amazing, however.

>lol flamethrower witness me patriarchy! xDD
you are the worst kind of faggot, I bet you believed you legitimately have a point when you typed this shit out

Yeah, and I believe that calling someone a faggot is an argument. Come back with an argument if you want to defend your progressive movie.

I don't argue with mentally disabled. Well, I do, but not today. Have fun with your mental disabilities, though!

I played them both a year ago. 1 is legitimately more "horror" than 2, which isn't helped by the drum and bass soundtrack. I also feel they were trying to do too much - Shodan AND an organic hivemind? Why not one or the other? And let's not forget -

>that ending

>Shodan AND an organic hivemind?
Extreme individualism vs. extreme collectivism with you caught inbetween.

>y-you're retarded. I won't argue with you! Not because I clearly can't, but because I'm s-so much smarter!

Well, bye.

It's hard to play SS1 as a horror game with all that upbeat techno constantly blasting. SS2 had the same problem, but it didn't become boring when you turned off the music.

It's not necesary to play System Shock 1 to understand the second one but I do recommend playing them both, the first game has better exploration, I mean look at this shit, while the second one is arguably better in everything else and added RPG mechanics, stores and psy powers. They are both great and worth your time.
Their control scheme is dated but the enhanced edition of the first game comes with mouse look and you can just edit the controls in the second one so don't fear.
The remake is just that, a remake. It's not the original experience and to be honest it looks worse aesthetic wise.

Disregard everything.

Get hyped that SS3 is happening and being made by the dream team.

>turning off the music in SS
It adds to the atmosphere, though!

Keep the music on but lower the intnsity, it's way too loud by default.
Also whats your favorite music from the series and why is this one?
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The first one, yeah. But turning it off in 2 makes the game more horror-esque and overall better. That's just my opinion though. I know I'm the minority with that opinion.

>The whole point of Immortan Joe's death scene is to show the faction that replaces him will be just as violent and barbaric as he was, the entire cycle of violence continues.
If that was really what Miller was going for I think that he did an awful job of showing it. Immortan dies with such little fanfare and that and everything about the presentation of the ending suggested to me that the world is genuinely a better place with him dead. We get the downtrodden masses cheering and supplied with water, Furiosa returning home like a champion, Max wandering off looking like he's got some spark of humanity reignited in him and the music generally trying very hard to convey anything but "the entire cycle of violence continues."

>Sorry if it was too complicated for you to grasp.
I get the impression that you aren't really sorry.

For me, one of the definitive SS2 moments was getting to Engineering and running through the maze there while this: youtube.com/watch?v=mtdQ5roMuEA blasted in my headphones.

Not all music in SS2 is action-y, either, there's some sinister stuff too: youtube.com/watch?v=xG5EmRit0W8

I want Shodan to do things to my anus

Whats their excuse for Shodan being still alive in 3?

The ending cutscene of SS2?

the ending to 2?

Very little details have been revealed, but Warren Spector said she doesn't just magically appear back to life. He said it's explained why it makes sense.

Besides that, the only details revealed is that Citadel Station will make a return (in some way), Shodan will be partially in human form, 451, and there will be a basketball somewhere in the game.

I only remeber "nah" and her blowing up. I'll look it up.

Its was another movie idea they merged into thunderdome because millers wife dued during production and he couldnt cooe with doing the movie anymore

I just saw it, didn't remember that part.
Shodan can create life, she is almost godlike at the end of system shock 2 warping reality and shit, not much explanation is needed in my opinion.

The first mad max sucked, it was boring and not a lot happened

2 and 3 were great