Post videogames Sup Forums is completely incapable of discussing

Post videogames Sup Forums is completely incapable of discussing

Any MOBA

Any PS4 game

It's better to make a list of games Sup Forums can discuss because Sup Forums's no discussion list will take hours to complete.

Any game

>Getting si assblasted that he makes a different thread.

The game is constantly shat on for a reason. It has battleborn levels of awfulness on it.

I don't like SFV, but people in its threads almost never know anything about fighting games. Fighting game discussion in general on Sup Forums is pretty awful, but if a game is niche enough you can have a couple of people who play the game talk to each other. For SF it's just a bunch of retards dogpiling on opinions they don't really understand.

>be tournament player for SF4AE/USF4
>have won rounds over some semi-pro guys, never beaten but played against many legit pros like infiltration and dieminion
>SF5 comes out
>voice my opinions on why its not very fun on Sup Forums
>Sup Forums shits on me and says I must suck at playing fighting games


The only reason I even bring up my experience in playing is because they immediately assume anybody who doesn't like SFV is shit. I got to gold a couple days after release and then got bored and went to other fighting games.

The game is slow, which is FINE. THATS not the issue. The issue is that everybody has forward jab pressure, AAs are weaker than they should be on a lot of characters, and one good combo even by a person who has very little execution does half or more of your HP.

Then you factor in how boring the footsies are, how weak the v-reversal system is and how pointless the v-skill system is (most v-skills could have just been regular inputs) and you get a decent but utterly disappointing game.

4 threads about sfv in the space of an hour

jesus you sure are desperate to make this game look "alive"

>and one good combo even by a person who has very little execution does half or more of your HP.
They toned damage down since release a bit

>AAs are weaker than they should be on a lot of characters
That's still true, but AA jabs are stupidly strong this time around, which you may not have realized if you only played it a couple of days

>you get a decent but utterly disappointing game
Yeah. The game was supposed to be a return to fundamentals, and it didn't really make any sincere effort to differentiate itself from the rest of the series. Definitely the most boring one so far conceptually, but that doesn't mean it's the worst.

What's your favorite fighting game?

SFV is trash user. Literally nothing substantial to it besides frametrapping and okizeme. Zoning sucks, footsies suck, reactions suck, defense sucks. The only people that like it are shoto and cammy players that only know rushdown and hate ST and 4 fundamentals.

Juri

I do remember my friend tleling me AA jabs were off the walls.

I'll admit, if my main was in the game I'd probably not have uninstalled it, but none of the characters seemed "different" enough.

How significantly have they toned down the damage?

>okizeme
Oki is intentionally terrible in SFV

>frametrapping
Grab range is short enough that frametraps are pretty minimal compared to SFIV

Some people like it because they hate vortex.
>footsies suck
Kinda. Not quite as bad as people say, but I see what you mean. If you got rid of dashing and made walk speeds faster it wouldn't be as big of a problem.

Anyways, whatever you say about SFV, it's a hell of a lot more fair than any version of IV was. Have you forgotten about Ibuki? Akuma or Abel? The unblockable setups? That's what they were trying to get away from.

Okay, but we've only got 500 posts or so, which isn't nearly enough for the full list.

>How significantly have they toned down the damage?
Watch Evo from this year. It's a fairly big difference. The real problem now is the corner carry and short stages.

any competitive game

any popular game

any game related to memes

any game related to controversy

any game related to normies

any game related to sjws

any game

I'd rather lose to Abel/Akuma vortex than have to play a game of rock paper scissors on my wakeup or on my opponents wakeup. I'd also rather have a game with decent projectiles and footsies than play a game where I block Cammy's st. LK for 8 years or have to start blocking because Ken decided to instantly get in on me with an ex divekick. Fuck Rushdown Fighter V.

>I'd rather lose to Abel/Akuma vortex than have to play a game of rock paper scissors on my wakeup or on my opponents wakeup
Abel and Akuma vortex are rock paper scissors, except they have extremely skewed risks

I can relate to the rest of what you're saying

This, really. It would be easier to name the ones we can.

i'm here from reddit, found this place linked in a comment

my outside opinion is, you guys are incapable of holding a discussion on anything without it devolving into a slurry of shitposts. it's no wonder they said this was the asshole of the internet

This.

Do not respond to this post after this comment, baiting should not be this easy. Even if you know he's not being serious, please do not give him the satisfaction of replies

Thank you

Incapable? They discuss how shit it is all the time.

>>okizeme
>Oki is intentionally terrible in SFV
I don't know about that mate, it just feels as shitty as SF4
>>frametrapping
>Grab range is short enough that frametraps are pretty minimal compared to SFIV
Although i agree, especially because they got rid of karagrabs, the game ahs a huge focus on frametraps and grab mixups since the attacking player has the frame advantage and footsies are almost enexistent. The range is shorter but you ahve to be pretty close to the opponent so it doesnt change much compared to SF4
>Some people like it because they hate vortex.
>>footsies suck
>Kinda. Not quite as bad as people say, but I see what you mean. If you got rid of dashing and made walk speeds faster it wouldn't be as big of a problem.
I hate that everyone is the game has Makoto's dahs and most enemies have garbage
>Anyways, whatever you say about SFV, it's a hell of a lot more fair than any version of IV was. Have you forgotten about Ibuki? Akuma or Abel? The unblockable setups? That's what they were trying to get away from.
Although they tried to get away from that we still have shit from Mika, Laura and maybe dahlsim and Rashid( i think).

And it's not like we don't have scummy characters like Mika in SFV either. There's always at least one of those. It's just that the mechanics of SFV are objectively inferior unless youre on of those people that just like being able to rushdown all the time just for spending 1 meter on your unreactable ex move or for free if you have an unreactable forward dash. Gotta anticipate everything perfectly if you're a zoner or a defensive player!

>it just feels as shitty as SF4
It really isn't. The setups on wakeup in SF4 for many characters were significantly more bullshit than anything in SFV. If you think Mika is bad, then goddamn you must've been playing among scrubs if you think SF4 was milder in that regard.

>SF4 dickriding babbies exist now
thats hilarious

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Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness
The Conduit
Yoshi
Dragon Age Origins whenever Alistair is mentioned.

I wasn't the biggest SF4 fan but SFV being as awful and offense oriented as it is makes me see it in a different light.

People stopped hating SF4 the moment SFV came out, and people will do the same when SF6 comes out.

The second to latest game is always better than the new game, user. You should know this

>If you think Mika is bad, then goddamn you must've been playing among scrubs if you think SF4 was milder in that regard.

In SF4 midrange zoning with normals was actually effective, so I rarely got knocked down to begin with. No arbitrary 'you have no invincible startup special, eat pressure for free' character designs either.

I never hated SF4. Even after the game was made more rushdown-friendly with AE, it still preserved an OK balance between offensive and defensive play styles.

In SF5 it feels like I have to play like an automaton to win. Casuals probably didn't buy it because it didn't have features, modes, a large roster, whatever. I don't care about any of that shit. The basic gameplay is what turns me off.

Maybe they'll do something interesting in S2.

What the fuck are you talking about?
Tons of SF4 characters were absolutely free on wakeup.
If you play Bison and get knocked down you will have to take the oki like a bitch.

You dont know shit about the game you're talking about.

Final Fantasy XV. Every single thread is just the same webmbs posted over and over. Good or bad, I just want the fucking game out and done with already so it can stop.

Reminder that by the time USF4 came out no projectile zoner was considered viable.

Even Guile was pretty much shit tier compared to his SFV version.

>What is crouch tech
>What is ex psycho crusher
>What is invincible backdash
>What is wakeup ultra

>Teleport
>Devils reverse
>Back Dash
>Focus
>EX Crusher
>U2

Even characters with bad wakeup had options

Interesting that you mention Bison. Worst case scenario with Bison (unless they have an ultra stocked) is you ex psycho on wakeup and eat a special. Or you get out.

In SF5, you have the option to block or block.

Are you guys forgetting something?

Fucking casual reddit scum, fuck off with your normalfag emojis

>XD

Who is Poison?

>Mfw people lay out lots and lots of complains and then confirm that they're fucking bronze rank or silver

this is my favorite meme

a character that nobody used?

SFV has had more discussion than pretty much any other game this year, though.

Super was the best version of the game. It made defensive play stronger, but given that most people want to play offense, it ended up being balanced in practice.

I didn't care for the game, but I played until I was in Super Gold. Ultra Gold really, but I didn't have the patience not to RQ when matches lagged to shit, so I'd always end up eating 1000 point drops before I got to Plat.

I gave it a shot, at least. Just not what I was looking for. And apparently not what the casuals were looking for either.

Poison
Rose
Guile
All completely viable

Yeah on Sup Forums, not where it matters

There are no other places for reasonable discussion though, unless you're a retard who thinks that leddit circlejerks are more important

Poison
Akuma
E.Ryu
Ryu
Guile
Rose

Juggling between two SF threads and I forgot what the point of the thread was, oops

No, Ultra was way better.

How so? It was better than AE since it walked back some of the bullshit, but it would've been better to not introduce that bullshit at all.

3rd Strike will forever be the best for me, nothing comes close to the satisfaction of parrying.

Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness
Halo Reach
I have no idea why Sup Forums gets leagues more autistic than usual when talking about Reach. Pokemon XD is self explanatory though

Better balance, more fun characters, better and more refined mechanics, overall all better and much more enjoyable game.

Ultra > Super > AE > Vanilla