Holy shit, Dark Souls 1 is fucking awful

>just reinstalled Dark Souls 1 after having played Dark Souls 3 for 200 hours
>already finished it twice back then but forgot almost everything about it

Holy shit...

this game is pure trash.

>gameplay is fucking awful and already was outdated back in 2002; can dodge in only four (4) directions, literally Pokémon tier
>abysmal level design, you basically aren't fighting the enemies but the walls and abysses, bouncing off everywhere while the enemy isn't
>enemies following you for ages so you can't even just run past them when you are bored or annoyed by them
>cryptic as fuck; no proper hubworld, blacksmiths are scattered around the world and not even near bonfires which leads to a lot of wasted time (backtracking), elements are way too powerful considering how there are basically zero indicators what elemental weakness the boss has, all the mechanics, no indicator to which bonfire you can teleport and to which you can't, droprates; which enemy drops what are cryptic shit you have to Google
>fall damage is fix, does not take into account how fast you fall
>abysmal shit polishing, some locations literally unplayable on console and even on PC with mods the framerate can tank at times with a 400 bucks GPU
>cheapest trial and error; visual design lying to the player, bad hitboxes, arbitrarily designed world

Holy shit. Is the love for this game just a huge meme or what? I'm not even saying what's wrong with this piece of shit in general. Just what it does worse than even Dark Souls 3 which is a hundred times better game in every single way.

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>arbitrarily designed world
Well, you get a point for going full retard only near the end.
A++++ Good bait, would get enraged again.

oh it's this thread again

tldr lol

>cheapest trial and error; visual design lying to the player

See webm, for example. Ground and everything literally shaking when the boss (yes, boss) attacks you. When this Havel faggot attacks, nothing. Yet this Havel faggot drains way more stamina than this huge fucking boss with a weapon no human could even wield.

There is no indicator this Havel drains this much stamina. You are basically bound to die here the first time you face him. Especially if you have used the key.

i saw that 3 second telegraphed attack, why didnt this player?

Please no apologists here. Go back to NeoGAF.

Literally made it the first time and just wrote all this, kid.

It's not like I except good arguments from Dark Souls 1 apologists, or anything but baseless whining.

Yeah it pretty much is a meme. People look back at it so fondly, but really their taste is just shit.

The level design is sloppy as fuck and the second half of the game really shows it off. They slowed down the gameplay from Demon's Souls for whatever reason so that's already annoying enough, I didn't need some clusterfucky metroidvania shit hole to trudge through either. DeS, BB, and Dark Souls 3 are the best games of the series and for some reason nobody realizes that because they're too busy focusing on "muh interconnected world."

Doesn't matter if you wrote it all yourself, I've seen these exact threads every week
They came around when Dark Souls came out and it was about Demon's
Then Dark 2 and about Dark 1
Then Bloodborne about Dark 1
Now Dark Souls 3 about Dark 1

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He did. And he avoided it. He does not get actually by the tentacle. He gets hit by its terribly oversized hitbox.

Open your eyes, retard.

Oh, and it obviously also goes through walls and whole mountains... meanwhile, your weapon bounces off walls.

It's a literal 2/10 game. Yet it got 9/10s and 10/10s by everyone.

Can someone explain this to me, please? I'm just playing it. I don't understand it.

Someone explain.

>all damage is fix, does not take into account how fast you fall

Reviewers feared the backlash of the autistic fanbase and had to show how hardcore they are.
Guess why DS2 got rated so high despite being literally cobbled together.

Seriously, it's like as if in 1998 Deathtrap Dungeon would've gotten 90+ ratings.

Yeah, it's really dated, OP. After playing DS2, it's impossible to go back to 1 unless you have brain problems. DS2 is the highest rated game in the series for a reason.

You forgot to mention how all the art design in this game is stolen from real life constructions and manga.

Literally 1:1.

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I fucking TOLD you that nu souls fans are the WORST
I did and nobody listened and now we are doomed to get shitinfested gameplay in other from games
Its the same fucking retards who complain about miss/hit rate in morrowind, no lock on in monster hunter and adp in dark souls 2 and v is the reason.

>Dark Souls 3 for 200 hours
>100 of those hours are copy pasted from Dark Souls 1

I bet you have a YouTube channel.

Literally NeoGAF: The Game.

>Reviewers feared the backlash of the autistic fanbase and had to show how hardcore they are.
This. Hundred times this.

>Guess why DS2 got rated so high despite being literally cobbled together.
Another example is Demon's Souls which is at least better than Souls 2 but it got awful scores by some magazines, Famitsu, for example. 20/40 or something, yet they gave Souls 2 almost a perfect score.

It's just marketing, hype, corruption.

Sen's Funhouse is the best part of the game.

I can tell you are from NeoGAF, see this picture You must go back.

And take discussions about this awful shit game with you. You guys over there deserve it.

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Oh look, a previously loved game/series on Sup Forums is now the target of repeated hate after it gained popularity.

Who could have possibly seen this coming?

That's exactly what I think when I see Sup Forums praising the awful From games, my weeaboo friend. That's exactly my thought.

This isn't the fault of the people who realize it's shit, though. It's the fault of the people who gave it undeserved praise in the first place. It should have been the target of hate since day one.

sure thing bud whatever makes you feel good

>dying to Iron Golem
I didn't even know that was possible.
It's like that stupid worm on DS2.
They're so easy that I forgot that they're even in the game.

>Its the same fucking retards who complain about miss/hit rate in morrowind, no lock on in monster hunter and adp in dark souls 2

Dude those are all genuinely bad gameplay decisions. People who complain about them just like good video games.

Holy shit you are fucking awful.

> can roll around on rotten wood planks in armor made of stone all day long
> some stone floor you already walked on before breaks down even when naked

Have you ever considered that maybe you are just bad and should just stick to bad games for bad people like you?

>DS2
>ADP is bad
>chugging estus really fucking fast should not be something you need to invest souls in
kys

STOP REPLYING TO THIS TERRIBLE BAIT RETARDS

I recognize that this is supposed to be an epic meme, but like, the original author couldn't even think of enough satire beyond like 3 lines.

Well, when the game is unpolished and unfair shit, you can be unlucky and this happens to you.

>those fanboy tears
Kek. Go defend the 15 FPS in Blighttown on Leddit.

Fuck off, retard. Go suck Miyazaki's microdick somewhere else.

>investing in ADP for faster estus
What?

>2012
>"Guys, look at all these nods to IRL structures! Isn't the art in this game great!"
>2015+1
>"Guys, look at all these IRL structures in this video game! Isn't it just shit!?"

Your mother frequently hates herself because she secretly imagines you were never born.

Literally the most thin-skinned and autistic fanbase there is on Sup Forums currently, you should finally get your own containment board.

You make the most aggressive and annoying shitposting threads everyday and can't even take a little criticism.

>2016
>Sup Forums is still so affected by DaS it has daily threads about it to this day

What is bad about those decisions?
Last time I checked having character growth was a part of the adventure. Do you even like videogames?

Are you 14 years old? That's just weak even for Souls fans.

Wait so the guy who made the thread is the faggot and not the faggots replying to it?
Nobody likes you.
Not even the people who should like you

shockwave

If it's such a bad game, why did dark souls 3 rip off 50% of it?

High wall is Burg
Settlement and Forest are lower burg, sewers, and darkroot
Poison swamp is blight town and abyss watchers is Artorias
Catacombs are catacombs and Sens
Irithyll is anor Londo
Dungeon is latria (demons)
Yhorm is literally a DeS ripoff in every way
Lothric castle is boletaria castle right down to the dragons (demons)
Archives are archives
And the last boss is, quite literally, the chosen undead from DaS1 AND gwyn

DaS3 is more or less a slightly polished up version of DaS1, with some shit lifted from DeS.

I get it's bait, but it's nonsense nonetheless

I don't care about souls I just thought I should inform you about what kind of person a shitposter like you is.

Seriously talk to her. She hates herself for wishing you were never born. Maybe consider suicide. Often it hurts the people around the person more but in your case suicide would be best for everyone.

ADP raises agility, which makes chugging estus faster. If you're confident in your timing and use a shield, instead of rolling through most attacks, you can neglect investing in ADP altogether and focus on other stats. This creates more build variety given same soul memory.

How about you quot the ad hominem bullshit for once and actually defend your favourite little game which is such blatant, awful shit, I have 100 OC webms on my hard drive showcasing how shit it is?

>ADP raises agility, which makes chugging estus faster
I thought everyone picked it for extra i-frames.
This is the first time I've heard of anyone actually picking it for fast sips

If you're going to shitpost, make it shorter.

>being this mad about a video game

I like your collection of shitposting from neogaf. You clearly vist it a lot.

The fact that something that game changing is linked to a stat and not a universal standard for everyone playing is shit game design.

and this is not trash?

Are you an idiot? How about you read the OP? If anything it ripped off the settings but not the level design. The level design in Souls 3 is way more open, the difficulty actually comes from the enemies and not from the walls or other shit blocking you the whole time.

How about you learn to write and stop being retarded?

This is how you spot a newfriend who had Dark Souls 2 as their first Souls game.

That image is such bullshit
Zelda games are shit

ADP is a bad design decision to the series itself.

You shouldn't ever have to invest points into your build to increase your ability to dodge things more effectively. Demon's Souls and the first Dark Souls encouraged you to just get good and time the roll right. That's all you had to do.

>I thought everyone picked it for extra i-frames.
You don't really need it for pve if you use a good shield. I played my first walkthrough as a shield shitter without investing a single point in ADP.

>constant gank squads
I forgot about that shit.
That was the fist dark souls I actually tried pvping in too.

Uh, I hit O instead of I which is right next to the I. You totally showed me continuing with that ad hominem like a 12 year old.

All Souls games are shit. No exception. But Souls 1 is probably the worst.

best gaem

The point of the picture is that Souls fans are underage Naruto children.

However, Zelda U will probably be better in every single way than all Souls games combined. Probably even framerate.

>stupid dex faggot has trouble with the knight in the burg
Don't run you little bitch kill him where he stands.

ADP have universal benefit to all builds though, and if you didn't raise it to at least 22 or so you got fucked regardless because of shit roll iframes and sluggish item usage. Any build that wasn't min/maxed to all fuck like caster builds had at least a certain amount of ADP because it was flat out broken with how necessary it was. Hell, its inclusion was the reason you could roll around in full havels and still dodge easily because iframes weren't linked to weight but instead ADP. It was a dumb mechanic and only created variety in theory, but in practice was terrible

kys

>You shouldn't ever have to invest points into your build to increase your ability to dodge
How about people who use a heavy set up like full Havel's, a greatshield and a greatsword and don't roll, since their encumbrance is above 70%? The presence of ADP gives these people some trade-off for their fatrolling, since they can ignore it and pump other stats like strength or vigor instead.

ADP increases build variety, this is an unarguable fact.

Nice opinion, too bad it's shit.

Adaptability would have been a better idea if the base iframes were high enough to reasonably dodge anything. Then you could invest for more of 'em if that's what you like or just git gud and dodge better.

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So you can't write with ten fingers? And you are calling me twelve year old?
Fucking millennial piece of shit.
You are pathetic.

Hey, at least this game lets you sidehop. Just like Ocarina of Time in 1997 or also Metroid Prime, Monster Hunter etc. Or even Witcher 3 now.

You can't do it in Souls 1 because it's a shit game. All you have are clunky 20 iframes rolls which feel like shit and only work with four different locations like a Pokémon game.

What is this game in the webm?

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>The point of the picture is that Souls fans are underage
>posts image focusing entirely on graphics
>goes on to jizz over Zelda
oh i am laffin

I know this is a (you) post but its fucking comical. You can run by almost everything in this game if you arent fucking retarded.

You can't sidestep with every weapon in Monster Hunter either.
And you can sidestep with some weapons in Dark Souls

I am confused here. Have you even played the games you are talking about?

>lock on in Monster Hunter

Literally wouldn't even make sense since the bosses are too bug and have different hitzones with different values.

Do casuals really not understand this?

Even in shitty Souls games lock on doesn't always make sense.

Witcher 3 gameplay is complete garbage though.

blade of darkness. realy good one from 2001
graphics still looks somewhat nice. limbs flying, shadows, lights, reflections, combos, bosses and stuff

>you can play through the whole game without dodging
>investing minimaly in a stat that lets you dodge is """""bad"""" design descision.

You full blow dark souls 3 shitter can fuck back right off

>You can't sidestep with every weapon in Monster Hunter either.
Which is a good thing. But you can sidestep with the faster ones or do similar stuff. But you are actually kinda wrong since you CAN sidestep with pretty much every weapon in Monster Hunter as soon as MHXX is out.

>And you can sidestep with some weapons in Dark Souls
In Dark Souls 1? Not really, no. Are you an idiot? You can sidestep with shitty, retarded daggers and similar weapons in Souls 1, though.

Except the point of the level design was to make you think about getting enemies to fight you on your own terms rather than blindly rush ahead, hence being able to lure enemies away or pick them off from a distance, not to mention having tools like items and spells at your disposal for those situations. The level design made encounters more challenging on how you approached it from a tactics sense rather than just a reactionary and combat centric sense. In that pic, you can parry the knight, use the ladder you find earlier to your advantage, or duel him in the open area you find before, but it's up to the player to find out how to tackle that situation rather than trusting they just have the gear and can recognize attack patterns.

Why did you quote me twice you nigga? Fucking hell the neogaf thing is obviously true. You are so obviously a tourist.

Why are you talking shit about a game you bothered to pay am the way through twice before, only to then come to the realization that it's bad

Are you retarded or something

True. But so is the Souls gameplay, see all the webms here.

At least Witcher's is kinda fast and has variety.

>Except the point of the level design was to make you think about getting enemies to fight you on your own terms rather than blindly rush ahead

Which is boring as fuck. Or annoying. Or both at the same time which is a really awful combination.

>Thread totally not kept alive by a flaming falseflagging samefag.

does someone pay you for shitposting?

Have like 300 hours in DaS1 and 2 and didn't had a single case of those "buggy" hitbox in the game you keep reposting since 5 years in every second Souls thread. The rest of your complaints are literally just spamming your shitty objective opinion on the game. Just fuck off.

what a sad thread

Because clicking your ID is faster than copy/pasting your low quality attempt of making a point?

I enjoy Dark Souls games.

>bad frame rate in a ps3 game on a 400 dollar graphics card
literally doesnt ever happen or ever will
everything else you said is wrong too.

Maybe on a cellphone. Also how was that sentence a question?
Can you make a single post that doesn't make you look completely fucking retarded? Please!

>works on my machine

Cool. No one cares.

Apologists out.

But I give you a chance. The games are so fair and everything and you're such a good player. Show us your Dark Souls 2 death count. Shouldn't be that high.

Except 70% was piss easy to stay under and ADP gave you full iframes even while at 69.9% weight, meaning you could tank up and still dodge fine, unless you were playing at some stupid low SL compared to every other game like 60 or 80.

This is why the meta for the longest time was buffhavels with the flavor of the week weapon. ADP was shit, and they removed it for good reason.

I'm still waiting for you guys making an argument and not ad hominem shit, actually.

Your little favourite shit game sure must be trash when you can't do this.

Now back to Le.ddit.

Ignorance is bliss.

>Works on my computer
works on everyones computer except on autist fags' who purely play to game for thousands of hours to try to break it somehow and find glitches you otherwise never find in your avarage playthrought.

I guess so.

>>gameplay is fucking awful and already was outdated back in 2002; can dodge in only four (4) directions, literally Pokémon tier
Wait, is this true? My last playthrough is some years ago too and I planned to play it again. But this sounds horrible.