I just finished bloodborne. I have a good grasp of how the hunt started but there's holes that need filling, stuff that doesn't make sense.
So here goes
>What is the dream/nightmare? I assumed the beast outbreak was caused by misuse of old blood. What do dreams have to do with it? Are they different planes of reality or something?
>The amygdalas Why did killing Rom reveal them? What is their role in this? Why is that one hostile?
>Moon Presence What is it's goal? Why does it want someone to foster hunters?
I know this is an old game now, but I soulsbornes have always fascinated me.
Good luck. You can pick up lots of stuff from Souls lore, but goals are always vague as fuck.
Elijah Torres
>what is the dream/nightmare In Lovecraft's short stories which much of bloodborne is loosely based in, the dream world is its own reality parallel to our own, with the only way to cross the threshold was to go mad. By attaining insight, Micholash was able to cross that threshold into a separate, but parallel nightmare world. >The amygdalas This doesn't have any lore backing it up, but I like to believe that since Rom was the first true great one that the player has defeated, it's bloodechos provided profound knowledge of the great ones, revealing them. >Moon presence don't even get me started bro.
Jacob Hall
From what I understand from was casting an illusion to keep people from seeing what's going on before it's too late
Leo Gomez
It actually makes me a bit mad how vague Bloodborne and Souls lore in general is.
Like fuck I'm not saying I want cutscenes with endless exposition and no room for interpretation, but it's too goddamn vague. I understand what Miyazaki meant with reading english books and not understanding everything as a kid; because Bloodborne feels like somebody took a story and just ripped half the pages out.
Logan Richardson
I thought the whole "seeing fucked up shit without insight" thing had more to do with the Pthumerian Queen Looking at the moon and Mergo crying in the cutscene after rom.
Carson Gutierrez
The Pthumerian Queen with the help of Mergo are the ones keeping the whole world together, with Yharnam being her dream world so to speak. Its very possible that what you said is the real lore reason as to why it happens.
Leo Torres
So at the start of the game, the hunter is infected with old blood and enters the dream. Then in ending A, gerhnam sets him free, waiting for the next hunter to carry out the moon presence's will (whatever that is).
Chase Hall
Sup Forums is not the right place to discuss this. You get the worst of the elitists, idiots and autists all rolled into one. Please learn from your mistake and delete this thread before it turns into shit.
Jace Ortiz
>please remove your video game thread from Sup Forums I guess you fall under the idiot banner
Wyatt Turner
yup that's correct
Michael Brooks
>Hurr you're an idiot for wanting less shit threads on Sup Forums Low test.
Jose Ward
They just make it up as they go along and expect lorefags to fill in the gaps for them. Genius move imo.
Bentley Sanchez
yeah, we're wasting space for more LOL threads
Jack Myers
So this thread is shit because it was talking about a game?
Jose Peterson
it´s almost meaningless cut scenes, random vague dialogue and "dude epic item descriptions" are a terrible way to tell a story
Levi Nguyen
maybe that's why it's so enticing
Christopher King
>What is the dream/nightmare?
It's own world. Both dream and reality is real and exist on their own at the same time
>The amygdalas They are one of the malevolent great ones who just want to fuck around. As you notice other great ones (Rom, Ebrietas, etc) do not attack you until you provoke them
>Moon Presence Unclear He might just want to plunge the world into a frenzy, or he might just be pissed about Great Ones always having stillborns and his way of getting a child is just turning a worth hunter into one
Henry Martinez
Bloo youdlines "lore" is intentionally nonsensical and you are just taking the bait if you buy into it
Brody Sullivan
for reasons unknown, Gerhman called out to a great one and MP responded
we know that Gerhmnan is gathering hunters for MP which may be against his will. MP doesn't seem to care, so long as someone does the job.
Jaxon Taylor
vidya shouldn't be about story, souls does it right by making it mostly optional. You can get into it and read every item description if you want or you can just enjoy the gameplay.
Jaxson Flores
>>What is the dream/nightmare? Alternate dimensions created by The Great Ones
>What do dreams have to do with it? No much related to the use of Blood.
> Are they different planes of reality or something? That's exactly what they are.
>Why did killing Rom reveal them? Because defeating Rom offers insight. Ignore the numeral on the screen, that's just a game mechanic. The closer you get to understanding what happened the more your character is able to "see". See the Doll and the Moon Presence.
> What is their role in this? Because you're in its shit.
>What is it's goal? Trying to figure out higher beings agendas is always a no no in Lovecraft inspired stories.
>Why does it want someone to foster hunters? Punishment and experimentation gone wrong.
Aaron Sullivan
read Redgrave's "The Paleblood Hunt". I don't agree with some of it but it provides a good base for how to look at the dreamlands and the lore in general.
Evan Mitchell
>That's exactly what they are. Surely Yharnam is a real place in the real world. Things only went tits up once they discovered the old blood in the catacombs under the town.
I don't get how dreams enter into it.
Ryder Hughes
Yeah Yharnam is real. The Hunter's Dream, Hunter's Nightmare, and Nightmare of Mensis, and MAYBE Rom's lake however are alternate dimensions created by the Old Ones built off the original.
Dreams are just the means humans and the Great Ones come into closer contact.