Dawnguard or vampires?

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>Dawnguard armor looks excellent
>Stats are total shit

Every damn time

Fuck those faggy vamps. They should have made dawnguard a bunch of werewolfs. Then that dlc would have been worth it.

>stats are shit
Just enchant or enhance it with smithing. High enough smithing makes literally any armor in the game good.

This. Would have made a lot more sense if Esbern was willing to do whatever it took to win and made the dawnguard become werewolves after he finds out they want to destroy the world.

That would have also gone with their astetic quite well actually. The muted browns and greys with the bulky heavy look fits. Probobly diddnt want to trample over the fighters guild subplot though

Dawnguard because I'm a sucker for crossbows.

Not to mention ranged weapons were the only way ot make Skyrim combat at least remotely enjoyable. Melee was mindless shit, magic was either stunlocking or summons doing all the work.

>le Vampires vs Werewolves
Twilight, fuck off

>crossbows

This. Bows are for faggy elves and Englishmen.

>enjoyable
>sniping from outside enemy detection range because it's like a 10 feet radius around them
>getting 3x crits one hit kills every time and enemies still think it was just the wind

Every combat style in Skyrim is boring. Ranged is just efficient while boring so it's better.

I never said it's good, but at least you have to aim.

Underworld did it first, you must be under 18 for sure

not that guy but underworld is dogshit too pham

it dont matter. none of this matters.

>be a vampire hunter
>free a vampire
>see that it has an elder scroll
>do what it wants and escort it to its home


How the fuck is this acceptable, I cannot fathom HOW YOU CAN WRITE THIS

but shes cute.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Esbern is from the Blades, not the Dawnguard.

>>do what it wants and escort it to its home
This is perfectly logical thing to do for a vampire hunter.

What is unacceptable is that you can't torture her, learn everything she knows and kill her afterwards.

fuck off
vamps and furbait need to be purged alike

My head canon is that she put a charm spell or whatever on you
But of course that'd make to much sense to have been written by Bethesda

i've played through the DG dlc a couple of times and i always pick dawnguard.

the vampires look way more interesting and i love that cool spooky castle but im too much of a pussy to side with the bad guys.

this. cute girls get what they want, even 10billion year old vampire girls.

10 billion year old daedric cum receptacles

>dl dawnguard
>Aww cool I'm going to be zealous as fuck and burn them all at the stake
>literally one millisecond later found out that waifu bait vamp was essential

fuck this game. all I want to do is purge with reckless impunity

>raped by Molag Bal
>cute

>expecting good writing from the creators of
YOU NEED TO BLOW YOURSELF UP NOW MR.EVIL SUPER COMPUTER JUST BECAUSE I SAID SO

I want to say vampire because being a recluse necrolord living with your waifu/husbando in a nice cave somewhere sounds so comfy but the dawnguard expansion managed to make it so shit

cute girls need to be saved

Dawnguard werewolf.

Turn Skyrim into Underworld.

vamguard

vampires in skyrim are faggots. hell, all modern vampires are faggots

if you're not a vampire count from warhammer or dracula, you're a faggot, basically. fuck the world for ruining vampires

>can talk a pure-blooded vampire into giving up her vampirism after killing her father and leaving her mother in the Soul Cairn
>still can't marry her

unacceptable

>what is VtM
It's still a shit concept.

At least it makes sense in VtM.

That said, VtM also have proper hunters of all things supernatural.

Not counting the years she spent in a tomb, how old is she, really?
Some of her dialog made me think she was locked away not long after she got turned into a vampire, other lines hint at the opposite.

Like at one pint she says her dad only went bonkers when he made the pact with Molag Bal and he came upon the prophecy shortly after that, at another she says her mom tended to her garden for hundreds of years.

I never saw their sourcebook, but I thought hunters mainly specialized in vampires. Still, they are ballsy fuckers.

you can get her mum to come back to their castle after you finish that questline if you visit her in the soul cairn

Vampire form is fun as hell, but the Dawnguard are the coolest.

It literally doesn't matter which side you choose. Regardless of your feelings on vampires, you're railroaded into helping a Mary Sue neck licker hunt down two Elder Scrolls, retrieve the bow of an ancient Snow Elf deity and kill Harkon.

Fucking love me some selene

It's more like young vampires are the only thing they can really handle.

They want all the creatures of the darkness gone, but things like werewolfves are so immensely powerful even vampires fear them, let alone mortals.

>be a vampire hunter
>free a vampire
>see that it has an elder scroll
>turn it into your sex slave

this is how you are supposed to play the game

>It literally doesn't matter

But it does: crossbows, good armor, good weapons and explosive bolts - only through Dawnguard.

Fuck vampires man. They are all crap. Only Count Janus Hassildor and Vincente Valtieri were great.

You get all of that equipment by just killing Dawnguard members.

There are mods to get her as a companion and there is a mod to get her outfit.

Not to mention you can actually become a vampire lord on the Dawnguard side as well.

Not that you should though, fuck vampires.

who cares, her hymen grew back and pussy tightened after sleeping so long.

>implying
You don't get explosive bolts, hell the amount of regualr bolts you gave is limited.

You don't get better crossbows, only the shitty base one.

>Wanting Molag Bal's sloppy seconds

Well is from a time before Cyrrodil became the seat of the empire.

Together with her father and mother she became one of the first vampires.

I don't know how old the world of Tamriel is but that's pretty fucking old, back when Gods and Deadra still walked the lands in the Dawn era, that's like pre-history.

u have to kill harkon even if you side with the vampires? i thought you got to be a comfy vampire and befriend all of the named vampires in the castle

Yep, once you get Auriel's Bow and talk to Serana you get an option to "honor Harkon's deal to give him the bow." Serana immediately shoots you down and tells you how Harkon will kill you and we need to kill him first. Despite the fact that Harkon has shown no ill will towards the PC after they become a vampire.

When you confront Harkon, your only option is to either refuse to handover the bow and fight him... or give him the bow and he fights you anyway.

Precisely. Used goods.

What I'd like to know is how many years did she live as a vampire before she was entombed.

do you still have to kill all of the vamps in the castle?

That's the only difference. The other vampires are okay with you slaughtering Harkon apparently.

>Thought the Thieves Guild was bad for ripping any semblance of dialogue control from the player
>Bethesda makes Dawnguard and proves me wrong

It's like the notion of being a vampire hunter never once entered the minds of the writers beyond the initial recruitment phase. Instead of forcing Serana down people's throats, they could instead have had the plucky young farmboy you meet on the way to the Fort be the Dawnguard companion.

>used goods
>cute
don't be a cuck, she deserves to die

Smithing literally solves this problem for every armor in the game.

As soon as the "marriageable Serana" mod gets ported to the SE im gonna marry her so u'd better stfu about my future wife

Dawnguard for those armored trolls

Vamps are fucking shit, especially in Skyrim.
Dawnguard all the way for that aesthetic as fuck armor and dem dwarven crossbows.

Your wife is the rape gods used goods

>Thieves Guild
I'll never not be mad.

>Be male character
>Join Vampires
>I get turned by another male character

Literally gay.

I know she rejects, but how can you ever propose to her?
It never came up in my playthrough.

it's only gay if your fangs touch

>Hey you want to enter this pact with Nocturnal which is blatantly a shitty deal, with even the God herself saying so
>Fuck no (LOL TOO BAD YOU HAVE TO SAY YES)
>This better be fucking worth it
>Turns out the boss is just a guy who spams stealth spells
>This foe was apparently beyond the level of the Dragonborn, a being who can shout the soul out of a person's body and reanimate their body, without the help of Nocturnal

What's with all the TES threads lately, holy shit. Have this many people seriously fallen for the cashgrab with broken mod support?

Dawnguard.

I was wanting to be a handsome and classy vampire, but you just end up being a monster.

>Implying we all didn't get it for free for owning Skyrim LE which we purchased for $5

>Cash grab
>It's literally free

1) it was free

2) TES is awesome, despite Sup Forumstards frothing hatred for it

3) lots of people playing skyrim right now. skyrim (original edition) never once left the top ten "currently playing" on steam during it's 5 years after release. not once. and now there's two skyrims on steam's top ten.

Ayup.

At the very least they should have incorporated the werewolf shit a little more, I mean the only time it's ever brought up in the DLC is when the head fagpire tells you "if you want to play this side of the DLC then you give up being OP". I would have at least expected the Dawnguard leader to also say something about you being a werewolf too, maybe even capitalizing on it by giving you some exclusive quests like recruiting other werewolves or sacking places secretly run by vampires, using your bestial strength to stop their resource flow.

Skyrim is fine as long as you don't play/ pretend its an RPG.

It was made all the worse by the shitty fanboys who spammed
>JUST DON'T PLAY IT

Like you had to beat a guy whose only special quality was that he had an unbreakable lokcpick and the only way to do it was to sell your soul, how stupid is that.

>it's free
Alright, but you're either on PC and playing the inferior SE, or on a console and have fallen for the cashgrab.
Either way is stupid, and I don't see a reason for such an increase in activity here.

it's only inferior if you're a megadork who does sex mods. a lot of the most important mods are already ported and the new exterior lighting and other affects are quite neat.

You want the reason? 2016 is literally the year of no games so anything- even a re-release is getting attention. People just want something to play right now

>the inferior SE
How so?

>inferior SE
What do you mean by that?
It's the same as the console versions (which is pretty sad, really), the only difference is that Skyrim was so dumbed down on last gen consoles that the difference between vanilla and the re-release is much bigger there.

Pretty much all the good mods have been ported already.

>inferior SE

in what way? PC received the biggest upgrade which is the 64 bit executable.

>on PC
>inferior SE

2bh im havinga lot of fun with bf1. the operations gamemode is amazing.

No SKSE, no ENB. Mod support is gimped to shit.

Oh, I meant that it's the inferior version compared to vanilla.

They're working on SKSE64. No idea why I've ever seen the need to use and ENB.

>tfw I applied an ENB on SE last night
>tfw SKSE will be out shortly
>tfw my NMM is flooded with mods from Skyrim which work with SE
>tfw its 64 bit and nearly no frame loss.

>I fell for his bait.

nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/top/?

Shit was free, yo. SkyUI 2.2 works but I'm waiting for a proper one. Same for MCM.

What? Yes, it has mods that work. Far from all of the existing ones do, however.

ENB isn't necessary any more. Half of its existence was to fix the shit engine issues of the original game, the other half was to inject x64 bit graphical features. Both of which are now in the SE as standard.

Whichever give me that ass

90% of the mods people consider essential have been ported. Literally the only ones left I give a shit about are SkyUI and FNIS.

Even my favourite argonian titty skins got ported over.

Vampires because I can self insert as a bi sexual vampire queen with an awesome waifu and her own castle.

>waifu
Stop this immature shit.
Just play as a dude.

SOS for SE when

Fuck vamps (except some in the castle which are okay), all I want is the immortality for myself and my (mod) waifu Karliah via "The Gift" quest.

Siracha or w/e her name is can go back to her tomb and rot. I do wish you could keep Harkon alive too...mayb there's a mod for that.