This was supposed to be the best Souls game. What happened?

This was supposed to be the best Souls game. What happened?

Third game in the series. Sequels tend to be bad. It should've been just Demon's Souls > Dark Souls > Bloodborne.

DaS2>DaS>BB>DaS3>DeS

Bloodborne happened

Bloodborne happened, anything that comes after it will always look bad in comparison.

Jesus Christ thats some bad taste

I'll never understand why people dislike DeS. It was the beggining of everything. It's like shitting on Super Mario 1. You don't do that.

SMB1 is a timeless classic. DeS is outdated in its own series.

The best souls game is the first souls game you play and struggle through without any help or videos you've seen to help get you through it.

Bonus if you had no idea how upgrading weapons or spells etc worked.

framefate drops during boss fights.


dark souls 3 tried to change the sombat system to a more fluid bloodborne sytle and IMO it didn't imporve it.
it is IMO the worst sould game just because of the ridiculous game lag suring boss fights.

that lightening knight suit of armor bridge boss was the worst offender.

T-THE C-TEAM MADE DS3 BECAUSE THE A-TEAM IS HARD AT WORK ON BLOODBORNE 2

I agree ds2>ds1>ds3, but I've never played bb or demons souls

The world sucked, weren't a lot of memorable characters, bosses were meh, but overall not a bad game.

I played DeS first so im fonder of it than i should be, but ignoring that

Das>DAs3>DaS2

Havent played BB, but it looks like itd rank where you put it, after DaS1. Also fuck DaS2.

>shit bosses
>gimmicky bosses
>less armour variety than DS1/DS2
>less weapons than DS1/DS2
>boring environments
>rehashed Anor Londo
>shit lore
>shit spells
>shit miracles
>shit hexes
>pyromancy only viable spellcasting
>on-disc DLC

This is some contradictory logic.

>we'll judge this game as per the day it came out, despite future games offering more powerups, greater variety of levels, expanded moveset...
>but this game? nah it's shit because future games added more...

Armour is useless. Fast roll is the only viable build. I miss being a tank.

>rehashed Anor Londo AND removed the bulk of what made it interesting, turning it into a straight hallway

FTFY. I love the game but yeah, that was criminal.

heavy class non-existant because of no poise
put on best armor and keep weight under 70%
rolling and swinging one handed weapons uses no stamina so you can spam both
2 handed weapons need 40 endurance to be able to swing 3 times
the "no variety" meme is real because the lightclass with estoc is just infinitely better, theres just no comparison even if you are fast roll with 2 handed weapon
tl;dr they tried making the game too much like bloodborne, a guy in heavy iron armor shouldn't be dashing around the battlefield anyway

Having only played DaS1 and DaS2. I struggled through DaS1 and it took forever to get good. With DaS2 I had to look up a guide after scouring the game for hours trying to find where the hell I have to go and I also missed the blacksmiths fuck DaS2.

They fucked with the formula too much.

Poise, defense values, enemy aggression and patterns, various animation speeds, total equip weight states, stamina consumption, how invasions and PvP are handled.

These are all things that have been changed for the worse. Overly tweaked too much.

There's no need for build variety, alternate pathing through the game and truly methodical combat encounters when it all boils down to certain things being DRASTICALLY better than others.

In DaS the world was designed in such a way that you had 3 paths from the start.
And then if you picked the Master Key, more variances opened up almost immediately.

In 3, there's really none of this. You can rush to the Smouldering Lake to pick up some later game items, but that's all.
You can't even open the Grand Archives door without clearing the rest of the game until that point.

The game bars you from alternate pathing by arbitrary factors and boring design, not with a skill ceiling.

Hopefully the last DLC will be a band aid, but I'm not holding my breath.

BB=DaS>DeS>DaS3>DaS2w/DLC>vanilla DS2

I hope so

Gimmick bosses aren't bad, DeS has the best bosses in the series.

>boring environments
>shit magic save for pyro
>less weapons and armor
>less viable pvp builds

yes

>shit lore

NOW JUST HOLD THE FUCK UP. The lore was solid.

BB > DaS > DeS > DaS 3 > DaS 2

BB=Ds3>Das>Des>Ds2

BB > DaS > DaSIII = DeS > DaSII > SS