Voice actors believe they deserve more money for the arduous job of sitting in an air conditioned booth and saying words

>voice actors believe they deserve more money for the arduous job of sitting in an air conditioned booth and saying words

???

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You don't know the stress, man. They only like work one day a year to do that and it can destroy the only tool they have to get a job, that's such a fear factor, maaaan, I mean like, maaaan, imagine if you are hands were destroyed, you would't be able to get a job that uses your hands man, so imagine like, your voice didn't work man, you couldn't talk to do your character voices like man.

Imagine not having skills other than talking, man, you would be unable to find another job, man, they should give them like unemployment benefits and a free yacht too.

Well considering that most of them prostitute themself i think they want more money for that. That said, voiceactors should not exist outside of japan.

>spot the NEET

>someone hasn't watched "I know that voice"

>considering that most of them prostitute themself
wat?

So what about Bugs Bunny, Mickey Mouse, Meme Time and Tumblr Universe?

That's funny, I have a job as part of devops.

>Spot the VA who thinks their "job" is hard

Does a voice actor deserve more than a character rigger? They both make a character become alive.

>voice actors should not exist outside of japan
I don't think Japanese voice actors should exist at all, but that's because I'm a racist. What's your excuse?

Voice actors should be paid minimum wage.

yeah like programmers believe they deserve more money for the arduous job of sitting in an air conditioned cubicle hitting buttons all day

What you need to realize is that the job market isnt based on difficulty. Its based on who can do the job. If you have a voice that just 'fits' perfectly with the character a director is looking for, you're very hard to replace.

jesus christ what a weeb. kill yourself

programing requires thinking while any drooling retard can recite a script

Well there's talentless hack voice actors who are one trick ponies, and then there are actual good voice actors who can play a wide variety of different voices for characters, and who do things other than just voice act.

The ones that fall into the former category don't deserve shit.

Japan was a mistake

>AAA execs believe they deserve more money for the arduous job of sitting in an air conditioned office and ruining everything???

>People who will fuck over upcoming scabs in their industry so they can have more money.
>I'm somehow supposed to be on their side.

Fuck you, stop locking people out of potential careers because you have a big ego. Troy Baker may as well kill scabs for positions.

Hahahahahaha how is being a Sup Forumsirgin you fucking weeb

More than half of them can't even do THAT part well, let alone without acting badly.

>he thinks non-union voice acting doesn't exist
Unionized voice acting only happens when AAA execs think big name voice acting is relevant. Anyone who cares about making good video games hires non-union people.

>while any drooling retard can recite a script

Well sure, if you want your game's characters to sound like Resident Evil 1's voice acting.

I don't know, you could always ask yourself.

I didn't say they don't exist, don't put words in my mouth or I'll eat your ass.

Nice retort, man why are you weebs so back at comebacks

Fuck it, give voice actors a raise.

I'm just fucking done with the same handful of meme voice actors you hear in every single game. I refuse to believe the voice acting industry is so devoid of talent, you have to rely on faggots like Troy Baker or Yuri Lowenthal.

Voice Actors deserve more money. Game Developers deserve even more money than the Voice Actors want.

the strike isnt really about the money as it is the working conditions
leave it to Sup Forums to have ANY of the facts on things they bitch about

I don't know, why are you so bad at typing out the correct word?

Steve Blum actually had a lot to say about this that put it into good perspective:

gameactorsforall.com/ (7 minute audio clip)

I thought it was a load of whiny bullshit at first but having looked into it more it's a lot more strenuous than I first thought.

Of course Sup Forums will instead act like autistic manbabies that have an opinion on things they didn't bother to learn anything about.

Go scream and grunt into mic for a few hours then try to tell me that shit won't fuck up your throat.

They're not devoid of talent, the problem is the idiots in charge think Troy Baker and Yuri Lowenthal have enough name value to sell games. That's why they just get them in the booth and have them do the same generic Troy Baker and Yuri Lowenthal voices even though they're capable of more.

As always, the problems with the video game industry lie solely in the AAA corporate executives and any other scapegoat is just a distraction from the real issue.

This. It's pretty hard on your voice especially since publishers typically want all the lines recorded in one session. Including the screaming and death sounds.

I bet you're a great actor, OP.

Why don't you go audition for some roles? It's super easy, right?

Yeah, no.

The Riggers and Code Monkeys can spend upwards to 80 hours a week sleeping at the office while Steve Blum can walk into a studio and bang out all the voice acting in like 20 hours at least and get paid twice or three times as much.

Better working conditions, yeah that's ok.

Asking for extra money if the game sales go well, no. You were paid for your job, that ended your contribution and relationship to the game

hang yourself

>the inevitable shitstorm when Halo 6 is announced for PC next E3

I can't wait.

I see you have a big problem accepting that japan is the sole and only masterrace residing on earth. MIKURU BEAM!

what?
I kinda assumed they did it over the course of a week or something
Why do they do it in one day?
are they seriously so cheap they can only rent the studio one day?

>muh code monkeys
>muh riggers

Yes, they are. That's the whole point. AAA execs want the name value of big name voice actors (whether you disagree on this or not is irrelevant, the execs think they have name value or they wouldn't be hiring union VAs in the first place) while still cutting as many corners as possible financially so the execs can get more multi-million dollar bonuses. Same reason why they don't have stunt coordinators when literally every other stunt job does, why they want to put non-union VAs on union projects instead of just making it a non-union project to begin with, and so on.

any retard can act horribly &
any retard can write shitty code
it takes skill to do those things well

That's dumb, pushing workers that way makes their work worse. it's almost like they don't even care about the actual quality of the final product.

In my opinion, you could replace all the 'voice actors' with volunteers from the local church drama group with absolutely no impact on the gameplay.

Or, even better, instead of having a dull-as-fuck 5 minute cut scene, just have a page of concise text explaining where we have to go, what we have to steal and who we have to kill.

That and not giving out information about what the voice acting is for and how long the gig is until after they sign the contract.

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>Literally advocating dubs like this
youtube.com/watch?v=BAtC1SzWSXg

Also, if they don't get directed at all while doing voicing then it goes to hell as well.

So WoW?

Thank god Sup Forums isn't in charge of videogame design.

WHY DO SO MANY VOICE ACTORS SPEAK THEIR LINES WITH SO MUCH FUCKING BREATH

CAN'T THEY JUST SPEAK FUCKING NORMALLY, BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH VERISIMILITUDE

>No one else's problems matter because I have a problem!

Autistic Manbabies everyone.

>WITH VERISIMILITUDE
what does pasta have to do with voice acting?

>any retard can write shitty code
i would say the minimum knowledge and skill needed to write shitty code is moderately higher than that needed to read a script aloud

Riggers and code monkeys are a diamond dozen, retard. Voice actors are not, therefore they get paid more.

If you don't like the way this cookie crumbles, either bake your own cookie, or stop eating it.

actually, it's just perceived that there's lots of riggers and code monkeys.
there might be plenty of great VAs that no one scouts because they believe they only hire a specific group of people that's been "approved".

I miss the days when voice-acting was considered a luxury, so writers could actually write what they felt, rather than being constricted by the cost of an actor. And you could have an infinite amount of replies varying in tone, since you did not have to re-record something multiple times.

>voice actors think they have the same pull as Hollywood actors

>Can literally tear your vocal cords and loose all future work
>MC stuntmen fucking themselves up because there's no stunt coordinator
>I get no sleepy times because I have to sit and program all day

One of these things is not like the other

>diamond dozen
>retard

Like I said, bake your own cookie, or stop eating this one.
>Hollywood dropouts want to play Hollywood
Every fucking time. Makes me kek heartily.

It's funny because the people striking share this exact sentiment.

>being this new
Let me play doubles advocate

Not really, if you actually looked it up they just don't want to fuck up their voice and be payed nickles and dimes to do it.

Welcome to AAA game development.

Even federal jobs have bette...well, federal jobs are just better in general. You just have to be able to get a clearance for at least most of them.

this is actually true, the way the unions and publishers have currently arranged things is one of the reasons why we hear yuri lowenthal in fucking everything

>unfairly harsh working conditions are o.k. because they're not in hollywood

and I guess it's okay to treat coders like shit if they're not in silicon valley

>famous actors can buy small islands while GOOD doctors can barely afford a mercedes

???

It's a doggie dog world, user.

don't like the pay? don't sign the contract

can't find the clients? pony up the pay

>Voice actors are not
There are exceptional coders who can think fast and understand good design and development and are very good at making things perform efficiently and effectively, I mean, you can't just hire someone who has no brains or is a literal retard, and people practice and study for that shit just like people who claim they train their voices. And if they don't train their voices, then that means they were picked to do only one thing that they were already good at, which is being themselves. Otherwise, being a stickler for who does a voice is just otaku being picky about the exact sound of someone's voice, and that's part of what's wrong with the industry, you are branding already-known VA celebrities because of the way they talk without allowing unknowns to come into the industry, and that's what's so conducive to AAA companies hiring only those "top level" VAs.

And pro sports players get paid tens of millions of dollars for playing a game. Your point? Entertainment is a product. If the product you were directly involved in the creation of sells well, you're entitled to the benefits.
Do you still think that pure effort or some invisible, subjective measure of societal importance always equals $$?

I know how hard it is working as a VA, I lost the strength of my voice recently so I got put into a wheelchair and can't find work anymore because my wheelchair's GPS is broken and since I don't have a VA job I can't afford to fix it.

I mean VAs literally get hospitalized for doing their jobs on occasion

>don't like the pay? don't sign the contract

that's exactly what's happening m8

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

i'm quoting op, and that was my point.

If being a voice actor is such an easy job

Why doesn't Sup Forums become one?

please ignore me, I lack reading comprehension

>Sup Forums comments on a topic they know little about and won't do research on: Ep. #314

dumb weeb poster

>knows he is a racist
>hasnt killed himself

you have no excuse.

Just move the whole VA business to Europe, all the best voices come from there.

Let's all become VA scabs if their union decides they should strike.

1. Casuals, which make up a good majority of the userbase, don't like to read
2. Video games come out on more than the spreadsheet box.

Completely voicing every bit of dialogue was a mistake.

youtube.com/watch?v=eSByiND5Dvk

Scream this long.

Ok if you can do it, now do it again as soon as you finish.

Ok, you were kinda off so you're going to need to do it again. We're in a rush so you can't take breaks.

Now realize that you have to do other lines too before a deadline but you're hoarse from screaming.

If they want more money, just don't hire them. Hire Japanese voice actors only. For non-Japanese games just use text only, we can get more story driven, less "cinematic" games instead.

I'd pay for a game where characters talk by screaming. Kinda like Ookami or Don't Starve with subtitles, except they're screaming.

>His Triple A title isn't fully voiced
OHOHOHO WHAT IS THIS, 2002?

Solution: Don't write like a retard and make characters scream

No one screams that long irl.

We're going to need some pain screams from you. We will need a ton so that the player doesn't hear just one over and over again

Have fun.

>"Ugh
>"Augh"
>"Ouch
>"Yikes"
>"Aah"
>"Ooh"

Now put them in a synthesizer, where's my 100$ ?

I told you, people don't scream irl

>cutting corners

They would never hire your company

Are people actually advocating for no voice acting or worse, even shittier voice acting than we have today in games? What the fuck

We said pain screams, not poke exclamations.

youtube.com/watch?v=GgDUEvcY_yY

We want this.

VAs aren't usually writers

>Not cutting corners
You don't live in the video game industry of 2016

They are being paid lump sum because video games aren't music or movies. That's how it should be.
The reason why video games can't be art, is because the core of a video game is a program.