How does it feel knowing we've reached the pinnacle of the fighting genre?

How does it feel knowing we've reached the pinnacle of the fighting genre?

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>pinnacle of the fighting genre?
>umvc3

Not with those games you posted. Now THIS is the pinnacle of fighting games.

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>Pinnacle of FGs
>Not GGAC+R or KOF2k2UM
>Capcom games
>Pinnacle of anything

ST/3s as the pinnacle of SF games and SF games haven't even been good since SSF4 especially with guesswork V. The only good cross over Capcom made was CVS2

Yes MVC2 is overrated shit. Half of the cast has small as fuck movesets and only 6 characters are worth using. The music and sprites are great but its core isn't amazing. Playing MVC2 will teach you amazing movement but its not a good game overall.

CvS2: Online Edition with crossplay when?

>pinnacle of fighting games
>umvc3

>crapcom fighters
>pinnacle

I see the SNKcucks are out in full force today

lolno
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Lol u wish it was that easy of a generalization
You're second to ALL

Neither of those games were made by capcom

fighting games peaked on the dreamcast

SNK Arksys whoever the fuck they gave KI too are all better then Capcom nowadays and Arksys/SNK have fighters better then Capcoms best.

Capcom is played the most because of nostalgia/Just the right amount of casual/hardcore balance. Their games are always easy to get decent at but hard to master where as other fighter series are hard to master but have higher entry barriers.

SFV is dogshit in its current version and with its current meta though. Its easily the worst game Capcom has ever dumbed down. SF4 was a perfectly fine blend of stupid and smart. atleast in SSF4/USF4. Hate or like its mechanics and characters like Elena but it had smart shit and stupid shit. SFV just feels like a shitty guesswork game where everyone has stubby pokes that do minimal damage so everyone is encouraged to go in despite their character archetypes

We reached the pinnacle of the fighting genre in 2001

SNKcucks will never be able to defend this

I don't even like SNK fighting games that much. UMvC3 is just straight garbage. This guy knows what's up

>Australian rating board label on Tatsunoko
Surprised to learn that actually saw a release here

>Every new Jojo game is in that shitty casual beatem up style and not even in a good one
>Never again will Jojo be handled by a fighting game studio despite having the build of a series made for fighting games and proven before hand.

>there are people who think KI is better than SFV

this is bait

new bloody roar never

>Roll Cancelling
>A-Groove
lmaono

Beautiful. This is why the Dreamcast is the second best console ever made

>I don't agree with it so it must be bait

I honestly thought Bloody Roar was a meme. People actually like that shit?

>UMvC3 is just straight garbage
>Thinks MvC2 was the peak of fighting games

That not Garou

>umvc3
>pinnacle of anything other than spam
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MvC2 is superior though. It takes a ton more fucking execution and is way less forgiving of a game. Definitely a harder and better game than UMvC3.

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That barely took EVO last year and it's only because the big players were too focused on SFV to stop it.

KBR never stood a chance.

Agreed.

The transition into 3D was only a clear sign of the stagnation of fighters

Is the artists of those covers the same guy who did the King of Fighters and Metal Slug art?

I wish KOF14 used sprites instead of 3D models. KOF13 looked so damn pretty.

Yes, Shinkiro worked for SNK before moving to Capcom.

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Yeah man, for me at least, it was the first 3D fighter I played in the arcades, when it was called Beastorizer. It's pretty damn cool, grabbing the opponent and biting their neck out and have all the blood(or sparks) spray everywhere. Had great music too and probably some of my favorite sound effects for any fighter. But it obviously didn't garner the attention of the 3D crowd like the others did.

yeah man, it was simple to get into but tricky to pull off the complex flashy shit with it's fast paced.

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Who is shinkiro? is he a soulless man working for suits or does he look like some sad attempt at a femboi?

lolno

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I think KI is a shit game but i can clearly see more love and actual genuine charm put into the game. SFV has a better core to work with but Capcom intentionally nerfed core aspects of fundamental play to cater to what has now become the get in get 2 good guesses usually shimmies into stun and win or atleast maim them to near death the game.

AAs are overall weak and the best AA option is usually a light for a stupid dash up strike throw guess instead of retarding heavier AAs/DPs the damage is low as fuck also not alot of juggle potential
Pokes are stubby for most of the cast to the point Alex's cr mp is a godlike tool when its just a SF4 poke pretty much
V-reversals are the worlds slowest Alpha counter and instead of the player pressuring having to read/react to one its the player blocking who has to react to a select limited amount of moves since you can throw them easily if a move is blocked with little recovery on reaction.

SFV genuinely is made to cater to people who had problems with approach game and neutral game in other fighting games especially SF. Its defensive game is ass so that even pro Japs and old OGs are caught dying pressing shit in pressure they'd never press during in most any other situation/games.

Let alone CC outside of CC sweep is a shit mechanic. It gave them a excuse to keep all sweep framedata shit because of the "risk reward" and its a mechanic that is basically just a casualized counter hit button so that people don't need to react to confirm in their pressure. Despite SFV already having UMVC3 tier hitstun.

Pathetic design choices currently cripple a good core game and its possible in season 2 Capcom will make up for alot of this. But honestly if i don't see better normalized hitboxes i will believe they don't care and they want the game to be continued to be played with the current guesswork meta.

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>way less forgiving of a game
In what fucking universe? You get clipped in Marvel 3 you lose a character guaranteed. Then you have to pray to god you block that 50/50 on incoming.

MvC2 is far more forgiving BECAUSE of it's higher execution barrier.

As a fightan casual who likes the genre but can't stick with any game, fluidity is the single most important aspect for how enjoyable a fighting game is. Third Strike is probably the most fluid game I've ever played, and Capcom fighters in general have a lot of fluidity to them. Are there any non-Capcom fighters that are just as if not more fluid?

I think that is what turned me off UMVC3. Its not that you can kill characters in one combo its that you can confirm it so easily from any magic series or air throw with meter you usually have.

No one should be able to confirm a jab into a kill like that regularly. UMVC3 could've been so good given a few more updates.

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yeah man

I'm really praying for pic game to too take of properly with it coming to ps4

>there are people who think it isn't

Not only that but you literally get seconds to OTG in that game.

kek

At least we can all agree that UMVC3 had the absolute best promotional art

EO exists

You are out of tour mind if you think either is even decent

>EO
Even worse

Capcom mostly made that game though

but we haven't

Nice bait

>there are people who think KI is better than SFV
Yeah, anyone who's not a retard.

but TvC is decent

>Guile embarrassing Rock Howard

But we all know that Melty Blood is the pinnacle of fighting games

Lmfaooooo

Nice delusion.

>itt people pretend they're good enough to lock people into unending combos in UMVC3/played people that good online or competitively

>mvc3
nah

>TvC
crossover kino

THIS is the pinnacle of fighting games
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UMVC3 is still good and relevant because you see lower tiers popping up here and there.

Dual Kevin is the best Deadpool player and he made top 8 EVO.

Also KI is a good game.

If this is the pinnacle its not wonder fighting games are already dying again, and deservedly so.

I would dare say it even has the widest amount of characters that actually won EVO, the biggest tournament in the world for that game.

Guilty gear

fixd

Honestly I don't get how people say UMVC3 is the most boring fighter to watch. Yes, people get can get caught up in endless combos but certain match ups really do always have the possibility to surprise. The other day I was watching a really good team of Chris/Jill/Rocket Raccoon that I was pretty amazed by.

Not a fighter

What's the first?

PS2 silly

not a fighting game.

you're right, it's not a fighting game

it's better

>SNK
>ArcSys
>can't even keep a decent sized loyal community in Japan or Europe

SNK is a 2nd world series and ArcSys is held together by VNfags. There are more UMvC3 and SFIV tournament players in Japan.

We reached it in 1995 with Night Warriors.

is that a jojo reference?!?!?!??

Too few characters

pretty much this

oh fuck, i meant

i heard each character of kof 13 was made in like more that 6 months, you can guess why there are no good sprite based games let alone fighting games, character design and fluidity of characters is heart of fighting games. but sprites i have heard are really expensive as well as very time consuming, 3d is also quite expensive i have heard its more expensive that sprites but its fast