What went so wrong?

What went so wrong?

Bad PR but the game turned out great.

Nothing. It's exactly what I expected it to be:
a bit prettier Killing Floor game. Fun as hell with friends, as always.

What is actually bad about it user? I put tons of hours into KF1 but refused to buy early access shit.

The atmosphere, the single most important thing in KF1, got fucked with, so everybody is refunding despite the rest of the game being better in every way.

No weapons

Weapons take months for tripwire to put out

Survivalist is shit

TW is 100% old farts who are out of touch

Retarded game balancing decisions

Crate loot system

Unbelievable characters in inappropriate dress for a zed apocalypse

No soundtrack updates

Terrible optimization that crashes the game with even the slightest gpu overclock

Failure to deliver launch promises

No linux version

No ceiling crawlers

TWs idea of a interesting new zed is a double bladed gorefast

I could go on

Do you think KF1 is better?

I really do enjoy KF2 and RO2 but since tripwire is kike incarnate i wont buy rising storm 2


I cant believe there are still no new bosses at launch and that survivalist perk sounds ass

Next to no one tends to criticize the game itself, as it's been very solid for months now. I'd say the whole "early access" thing was a bad joke in the first place.

It's all about "muh *SJW* devs! muh skin-crates!!" etc.

>No weapons
You got ~5 weapons per perk already. You need more?
>Weapons take months for tripwire to put out
Compared to YEARS, like with KF1?
>Survivalist is shit
True.
>TW is 100% old farts who are out of touch
How?
>Retarded game balancing decisions
Like?
>Crate loot system
Ignore it.
>Unbelievable characters in inappropriate dress for a zed apocalypse
...and KF1 had more "believable" characters?
>No soundtrack updates
There's already more tracks than in entire KF1, which repeated the same handful of tunes all the time.
>Terrible optimization that crashes the game with even the slightest gpu overclock
It does? My old GTX 560ti has no problems running it at 1080p, High textures and SFX, with OC to boot
>Failure to deliver launch promises
?
>No linux version
L.O.L.
>No ceiling crawlers
That was a bit of bummer, true.
>TWs idea of a interesting new zed is a double bladed gorefast
It is pretty basic, but a nice lil' addition nevertheless.
>I could go on
dozo.

Survivalist and crates
If they'd made survivalist a class that uses homemade guns like that one zerker shotgun it would've been fine. if they'd made crates free low tier items and sold cosmetics in packs similar to kf1 it would've been fine, instead they jewed out to make as much money in the shortest time frame possible
Oh and they still havent fixed their own maps so zeds spawn from outside the map and move inwards instead of just appearing around every fucking corner

>TWs idea of a interesting new zed is a double bladed gorefast
Variety goes a long way, that's why there are 3 different kinds of clots. I hope they make more variations of each Zed.

>Oh and they still havent fixed their own maps so zeds spawn from outside the map and move inwards instead of just appearing around every fucking corner
???

These are the worst kinds of posts.

>Having a tonne of classes somehow excuses all the classes being barebones and having 0 build variety
>He already forgot the resistance update where it took 2 shots from a dbs to kill a stalker and crawlers had fire resistance
>The horzine outbreak happened during haloween and so people are still in costume
Although the robot was a bit silly, it's still better than a bunch of whiny shitstsains that wear dresses.
>Devs haven't failed to deliver launch promises even though the game is full of microtransactions and was a year behind schedule and is still missing the final perk AND they still haven't bothered to port old characters
XD

What kind would that be?
Too good to be countered with mere verbal bashing?

>Having a tonne of classes somehow excuses all the classes being barebones and having 0 build variety
How are they "barebones" exactly? Each perk has a full arsenal. That's already a HUGE step up from things like Firebug having to make do with ONLY Flamethrower for two years in KF1, only to later get an anemic MAC-10 as a backup.
>He already forgot the resistance update where it took 2 shots from a dbs to kill a stalker and crawlers had fire resistance
And those were fixed already. Plus, GJ ignoring the fact that resistances existed already in KF1.
>The horzine outbreak happened during haloween and so people are still in costume
First time I've heard of that theory. Originally, it was literally cops and soldiers trying to survive & clean the country. Then some lucky SOBs started popping up into the cast selection via DLC.

>there's 2much microtransanctions! BUT I do want my old microtransanction characters into this game ASAP, pls!! :^)
t: (You)

they promised 10 perks at launch retard

SJW'S REEEeeEEeEEEEEE

Yeah, whatever shills, I'm refunding and there's nothing you can do about it but cry, go suck corporate cock harder.

>make a false accusation
>someone corrects it
>shill
ok

>Ask for more info
>Reply to the false statements with detailed feedback
>"pfft! wutev shill! :^)"
like pottery.

I do hope that more weapons are high on the priority list. While I appreciate that every class has their own arsenal, you're pretty limited in terms of weapon choice unless you want to go cross-perk or survivalist.

>Retarded game balancing decisions

Give examples

>Unbelievable characters in inappropriate dress for a zed apocalypse

So did KF1

>Terrible optimization that crashes the game with even the slightest gpu overclock

Works for me ;)

did you get your refund yet user?

> What went so wrong?

they made it for consoles

Fuck yeah I did.

Next update has another zerker weapon and an unnamed weapon from KF1 coming back apparently

>Retarded game balancing decisions
Which of those are still in the game and which were things that happened back in Early Access?

It's nothing like the original Killing Floor. Got votekicked out of a server for welding a door earlier.

I think they made a post about adding more perk weapons after launch or something?

>aim "assist"
>crosshairs

No wonder, welding sucks ass now and is not worth doing because it's gonna break anyways. All it does is fuck you up so you can't run around and kite the zombies.

I miss the welding of kf1 where it was actually useful.

Watching Tripwire's apologists squirm is pretty funny.

anyone wanna play KF1

>Terrible optimization that crashes the game with even the slightest gpu overclock
my old 9800gt could run that at 60fps

>all these assmad shills because people are sticking it to their favorite company cock

Actually they fixed welding. Yes the doors still have an invisible health bar which they should address BUT Supports can now repair broken doors even during a wave. Goes very well with a Demolitionist who can plant doors with extremely powerful traps.

Holy shit, he goes right at it.

>that background
Did the mods close the thread? If so: LMAO
And yes, I refunded it with 20hrs. But not because I think its bad. Its just not my cup of tea. No use keeping a game that I'll never play.

>What went so wrong?
kf1 fags who think that ugly shitfest with godawful pacing and hitboxes was any good

>Bla bla bla argumentum ad passiones

>10+ hours spend in game means you enjoyed it VERY MUCH
ive spend thousands of hours in life and still dont enjoy it very much so suck it

Nothing.
They fucked up the marketing but the game itself is great.
Survivalist perk is very meh though and feels rushed.

>melee attack changes depending on what direction you're walking
how did they fuck up berserk this bad? Couldn't they have had a system more similiar to chivalry where you just hold a button down to get a different atttack?
What about all the other retarded perks that make no sense? What the fuck is a swat when we already have commando? What was the point of gunslinger? I miss kf1

>ve spend thousands of hours in life and still dont enjoy it

>tfw can't refund Life

Then why are you still playing it?

>I miss kf1
Pretty much the sentiment of all the haters.

I do agree that SWAT and Gunslinger need some more work to distinguish them more than "muh dual-wielding" and "muh SMGs".

bad ending has consequences on other save files :/

it was pretty good in Dark Messiah
it simplifies the button layout a bit imo

I dunno what they could do to gunslinger.
There aren't any handguns they could add that are similar enough to still be handguns but different enough from the current guns to be worth adding

you mean
>a bit shittier killing floor game but with better graphics

it's actually a notable improvement from the original in many ways. Slightly different tone and pacing, but still an upgrade for the most part.

judging by this thread the only argument against kf2 is "it's not kf1"

b-but they're evil SJW's!
one of the devs made a forum post 2 years ago about how they wouldn't add any anime waifus with their tits out!

>These are the worst kind of posts
No these are the worst kind of posts, the ones written by shitters who contribute nothing. Lurk more.
Personally I just want to know if the movement is still as weird and janky as kh1. The gunplay in that game was great as far as zombie shooters go, but you moved so slowly and it felt kind of clunky. Like that NeoTokyo game.

Yes, shill, its not KF1, because KF1 was actually good and not a pile of shit.

Everything in the game is generally a bit faster.
Zeds sprint at you on the higher difficulties so you really need some reflexes.

You can sprint with shift. It's slightly slower than you'd expect but its pretty smooth

Some perks can move a little faster than others (zerker, gunslinger, and to a lesser extent medic and sharpshooter)

People have said that the guns feel better in KF1 but I think that's just nostalgia talking.

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Laziness.

SJW developer

nothing, its great

thanks for proving me right once again
>People have said that the guns feel better in KF1
dude more screenshake lmao

If there's one thing they got right it's the way the guns feel.

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I fucking hate people like you so goddamn much. You're acting like you can't just go back and play the first one. If you hate 2 so much just go fucking play 1. Fucking manchildren I swear.

>SJW Devs!

Are they really aside from that one post from fucking ages ago that said they weren't going to include bikini anime waifus? Are they really on par with Bileware now?

Its not that they won't add it
Its that the nu male faggot SJW dev went on a rant about muh soggy knees and stronk womyn in gaming
Why support that bullshit?

The best part about these refunds is how mad it makes corporate cocksuckers like this guy

>tfw i played for 800+ hrs still refunded

>Wanting a refund because a game is shit makes you worse than pedophiles, murderers, and rapists

they got most of the things right. people are just pissed off about EA and survivalist, otherwise the game is great fun. gunplay, animations, pacing, ragdolls, gore - all of those are really good
>Are they really aside from that one post from fucking ages ago that said they weren't going to include bikini anime waifus
nope. there's nothing else they have on the devs. people wanna make it seem like a tortanic with all these threads but in the end the game turned out great

Any one on ps4

I like the Gunslinger. You get to run fast, headshot stuff from the hip, and switch weapons almost instantly so you can carry three pairs of handguns and just pull out more instead of reloading. Although it's really just a mix between Commando and Sharpshooter that doesn't really add anything unique to the team. Besides shooting sprinting Scrakes in the leg with the perk that knocks them down, I guess. I think that's supposed to work for Fleshpounds too, but it doesn't seem to be doing it for me for some reason.

>nope. there's nothing else they have on the devs

0/10 apply yourself you retard.

>No linux version

Literally nobody besides 5 people care about that, though.

Broken promises, needless and unwanted pvp, microtransactions, lack of sense of weight to weapon fire and crappy sound design, cross promotion, terrible perk balancing, faster pacing turns it from a slow methodical shooter (kf1) into a chaotic mess, no grindhouse feel, everything looks like plastic with overblown speculars and crappy materials, most maps are during night-time.

All of which during early access.

What promises did they actually break?

Adding the martial artist and adding a third boss.

Biggest offender would be early access dome right. Most obvious would be wall crawlers

Neither of those were ever "promised"

Martial artist was a datamined icon that nobody ever knew anything about.

The third boss is only known about due to datamined voice files.

You got me on the latter.
It's probably for the best to be honest; wall crawlers would be fucking annoying

I can't think of anything other than the change in tone. I went back and played KF1 again but I couldn't stomach it for longer than an hour. It was just way too slow and clunky for me. The only thing I really miss from KF1 is the old dialogue.

It's still in KF2 with the classic characters

not annoying black cockney trader lady, though

Most weapons are fucking nerf guns, zeds are bullet sponges sue to resists and look fucking awful. So shooting guns is not fun and it was probably my main enjoyment from the first one.

This, plus they took out insult voice commands.

Not him, not shill, but KF1 was far from perfect, and still isn't. And trust me, I'm an old as fuck fan of the KF series.

>zeds are bullet sponges sue to resists
no they aren't

those mechanics were in the game for a week before being removed.

>Teleporting zeds
>Static builds
>Teleporting zeds
>Poor balancing (some classes are mandatory, others dont bring anything)
>Teleporting zeds
>Fifteen-ever in development with relatively little released
>Teleporting zeds

Turned away when their dev went full sjw

didn't all of those get fixed back in august?

So 2 years ago, before the game released?

They actually mentioned a third boss on their latest dev blog. Prolly wont get it untill next year though.

>repeating single, long ago fixed "issue" to make your post seem bigger

you're retarded if you like that disgusting fake french accent over the old trader

I never said that the french lady is not annoying too

>Prefering that French dyke's voice

tripwire has been a scummy dev since RO2's launch, KF2 was their last chance for me and they fucked everythang up.
>FREE CONTENT PATCHES
>game journalists getting the FREE CONTENT PATCHES weeks ahead multiple times, eg PCGAMER
>no 3rd or 4th boss
>deleted martial artist perk and made survivalist perk which is just a mishmash of others
>crawlers not climbing on walls
>FUKCING MICROTRANSACTION IN EARLY ACCESS
>all the other countless shit they bullshitted
refunded it the moment i heard you could

hope their vietnam game burn

Post your face when you first shot the regular 9mm in killing floor 2.
Why does it feel so weak? That thing was so satisfying to headshot clots with in killing floor 1.
Why'd they do that man

I've never played KF2 EA and I'm considering buying it now that it's released, because KF1 is dying. Give me the actual pros and cons of KF2 compared to KF1. I don't care about EA promises, I don't care about paid cosmetics (KF1 was full of that shit too), I don't care about muh social justice. I just want to know about the actual VIDEOGAME part where you co-op and shoot zeds.

> crawler
> martial artist
> riot, shield or electrical weapon based perk
> 3rd boss
> "frequent updates"

MA, riot shield, electrical weapons and a 3rd boss were never promised.

They were just things people speculated about or datamined or theorized.

For a period of a couple months the 9mm sounded like a fuckin medic gun for some reason
It's okay now i guess.

For starter, they broke the two big ones, them being that the game would be released in 2015 and that they'd do "early access right".

And then the rest, like a third boss, all perks added and more like martial artist, riot shields and so on.

Yes you can. Unless you're Buddhist, then you can only exchange it.