Final Fantasy XIII

Now that we know Final Fantasy XV is going to be awful, let's talk about XIII. What went so right?

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The rest went wrong

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The battle system isn't completely retarded, but the level design (not the art) was retarded.

Fucking this.
People can shit on XIII (even if i loved all 3 games) , but the OST is God Tier

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The sequel

That was Mizuta though, another based composer.

the great problem was Toriyama doing the story and directing.
He should get a better story writter to do it for him next time. That way he doesnt have to shit on nothing.

i know, both are godlike

FFXIII is a good movie.

Fang

Noel

Lumina

Both sequels

Music

First games visuals

>serah spam
>good

you fuckin kiddin me?
Serah should had never existed to begin with.

I liked Fang and Lightning but sadly they where very poorly written just like everything else. The whole project had increible potential from the beggining but Toriyama dropped the ball big time.

If he wanted to make a story or chara driven game he should had gotten help from a competent person to do the charcter stories first then a story layout and a list of what you would like to see that would happen. Go level and world desginging and then you unleash the art team.

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>Faster combat
>Less linear
>This costume

XIII-2 was a better game. I don't care at all about the plot.

>This costume

Battle system was amazing. Titan's trials were challenging in a good way. Some of the settings were truly inspiring. Incredible soundtrack. Epic boss battles. Lightning's thighs.

What will Sup Forums do if FFXV ends up getting great reviews?

I think that Lightning's legs are too scrawny. Her face, hair and lips are sublime, though.

No. Thank Mwynn, Mizuta and Suzuki saved the sequels.

I've been playing it about 2 hours a month as that's all I can stand for like 2 years now. It's awful.

Is it sad that this screenshot looks better than anything I've seen in FFXV? :(

It's not a game, it's a movie. And it's a shitty one.

Out of the three lightning games which is the best?
And which is the worst?
gameplay and story wise

Hamauzu is better than both combined.
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Why have you been torturing yourself.

I will treat it like FFIV. (In case it gets universal appeal as well.) That is, continue to hate it regardless. Also be sad that FF will go XV's direction then.

Same user, same.... :(

Kill yourselves, it's a shame retardation can't be cured without death.

My favorite was XIII-2
Faster combat, better music, Chocolina, Caius, alternative endings were fun
Historica Crux was cool too
XIII has better graphics, it actually looks better than XV while running on vastly inferior hardware, and more in depth combat, and I liked the story, bosses were good and the CGI cutscenes were many and they were gorgeous
LR is the one I liked the least despite having my favorite character, best combat system and best final boss and ending
LR has chronostasis that breaks the game and it was a let down for it be broken so easily
Still Lumina a best and the game was fantastic
Overall every FFXIII game was my GOTY for each year and my favorite 7th gen saga

>Sup Forums now likes FFXII

It's the Zelda cycle all over again.

If there is one thing that XIII did right is the soundtrack, and holy shit if they did it right.

hot bitches

Gameplay: LR > XIII-2 (It being super easy and therefore irrelevant is an improvement) > XIII

Story: XIII-2 > LR > XIII

Good luck. It took me 11 months in 10-15 min segments a week to beat XII on my fourteenth try. I can empathize. Someday it'll be over and done with forever. Hang in there until then.

The difference is that all Zelda games are actually good despite all the bitching, which definitely isn't the situation here

I'm working through a playthrough right now never got to pulse last time I played it.

One thing they did really well was the auto-battle/AI in combat. I like that your AI controlled allies are not completely retarded and generally use the appropriate abilities like RAV/COM's using AoE abilities when there are a lot of grouped up enemies. I also like that for enemies you have no info on it will test weaknesses and resistances with different spells.

Honestly one of the best AI's I have seen in an RPG because in many games AI controlled companions are completely fucking retarded or even worse a liability.

To be fair FF13 is mostly non interactable static backgrounds. That being said it holds up very well visually.

Well they do literally play like the player.

Waiting for ATB to fill then pressing A.

>Sup Forums is one person

I will never like A.I. partners.

If it's bad, it's infuriating. If it's good, then why do you need me?

Yeah I mean it mostly comes down to the fact the auto-battle command is programmed very well.

>it's programmed too well
Seriously now

Because the game was about optimization and preparation, your results are only as good as your brain user.
Don't bother arguing with a retard.

>my shit is better than a newer shit

Lol

Is XII the only one that can't be played/emulated on a PC? I think there is one like that

XII is actually great when emulated

say what you want about the XIII series, but Lightnings armor design in XIII-2 was pure perfection.

>Story: XIII-2 > LR > XIII

fucking kys faggot. XIII was bad and square somehow manged to make it worse

Correct. Just the right bits of skin are exposed, as if someone discovered the equation for maximum sex appeal.

literally the worst FF game of all time

What a sad life you will soon have to live through.

II and VIII are worse and if you think otherwise you are retarded.
Why is that not mandatory apparel for all attractive women?

Only Lightning is worthy of such perfection

Is it normal to want to insert my dick into her armpits?

Lightning has top quality armpit.

We'll see. If so, then so be it. Life is about joy, so I won't mourn for long. There are other games to play. The pendulum may swing back my way later.

This so much. The game was absolute shit, but Blinded by Light got me hyped every fucking time and Lightning's theme was perfect. Same such beautiful music got stuck with such a shit game and character.

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That's lewd, user. I just want to lick her armpit with the back part of my tongue.

Lightning is waaaaay more annoying than Squall

Damn that was beautiful. Is it bad that these two tracks make me want to play the game?

All they needed to do was put all the lore stuff that you can only read about in the menu into the actual story.

Remove the auto attack option and add MP back in.

That alone would have fixed most of my problems with the game, I don't even mind the hallways, that shit was in FFX too and yet nobody bitched about it there.
Add some cities and rework the ending and it would have been one of the best Final Fantasy games.

XIII was a story about defying your fate by fulfilling your fate. It was nonsense and horribly told. The sequels followed their stated premises without any magical Deus ex Machinas saving them. XIII-2 even explained XIII's ending as a bonus and had likable characters. LR had Lumina.

>nonsense and horribly told
SO you're telling me it's a JRPG?

No, I'm saying it was nonsense and horribly told.

But yes, even by JRPG standards. Among FFs, VIII had a worse story than XIII.

It's just a testament to how fantastic this games soundtrack was. I don't even think it was that bad of a game, but then the sequels that nobody asked for came along and taking the story to whole new levels of bullshit.

On top of that, people were sick of Lighting being shoved down our throats. Like when she was made the main character in Dissidia 012 and spent the entire game taking shit and looking down on all the other classic FF heroes.

I unironically enjoyed XIII, though it's far from perfect. The OST, Sazh and Vanille's scenes, the visuals were great, and the combat is fun if you know what you're doing.

Oh god, VIII is a serious contender for worst story ever told.
Hamauzu did the OST for it right? His stuff on SaGa Frontier II and Final Fantasy X was based as fuck. I'll have to give this one a listen to.

armpits

It's so fucking sad that dogshit games can have such beautiful music composed for them.

Hamauzu gets screwed so hard, he has done music for the following games:
>Unlimited SaGa
>Dirge of Cerberus
>Final Fantasy XIII trilogy

But their act of defiance came AFTER they fulfilled their focus. Namely the australian lesbians abused their reward for getting their focus done (turning into a crystal) to become a pillar that holds Cocoon in place and prevents it from crashing down.

Everyone post the best tracks from XIII

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I have XIII lightning returns left to beat. Bought it in september and have been waiting for christmas break. So hyped now!!

>tfw thinking about rebuying FF13 on the PC after reading how shit FF15 is.

I'm very interested to try it with the japanese dub.

Jap dub is based, you'll want to unironically do anal with Vanille.

>you have been on Sup Forums long enough to see FFXIII revisionism happen

the music was good though

Oh no. I'm not letting you get away with that. Hamauzu did a quarter of the music in XIII-2 and little over a third in LRXIII. He also did World of Final Fantasy and the FFX HD Remaster remixes.

He's not getting screwed. He's getting top billing. And is by and large, awful.

I mean not really. It didn't have any thematic depth and the drama/action wasn't good enough to give the music impact and vice versa.

It's the same thing when people say the Prequel Trilogy has a good score. No. It doesn't. It's memorable for all the wrong reasons.

And I'm not letting you get away with that, Uematsu and Nakano along with others did the X HD remasters, Uematsu also worked on WoFF OST.

Hamauzu is also the best composer for the series.

Also reminder he did the best song from XIII-2 youtube.com/watch?v=xMdF_o3fCpo

tumblr is down the hall and to the left.

It's not revisionism, it's just that compared to FF15, FF13 really is a much better game.
But it's not the case of FF13 magically getting better with time, it's a case of FF15 being so fucking bad that it makes 13 look much better than it is.

Oh, so you've played 15?

The final boss is a QTE, it's objectively worse than XIII. Stop shilling and face reality.

In case you don't know, the game leaked.
No I haven't played it but I watched a 20 hours long stream of it from start to finish, more than enough to conclude that it's pretty shit.

Was the music good at least?

Sup Forums always has a difficult time using vocabulary.
Oh, a let's play viewer here to deposit his 2 cents.

the Zelda cycle has officially found it way to the FF series. Screenshot this boys when FFXVI comes out we'll be wanking XV.

Also XIII is BASED af

How much does SE pay you?

game look 50000000000x better than XV on pc

You mean the final boss is multi-phase fight and at the very end of the last phase there is a QTE.

>spent twenty hours watching a stream
M8 I think your life is pretty shit

>multi phase fight
Of button mashing and QTEs, game is shit pack it up and go home shill.

>Sup Forums constantly shits on "e-celebs" and people who watch let's plays
>but watching some rando stream the entirety of an unreleased game and then making a judgment on it as if you played it is totally fine and cool

How many times do you scoff at a post you didn't agree with? Don't let Sup Forums tell you what to do hive mind.

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Instead of these tumblr tier responses tell me why XV isn't garbage from what we've seen.

I reserve judgement on a game until I've actually played it. Simple as that. You should too.

i love ffxiii-2 but goddamn the beggining is cringy as fuck

>now that we know Final Fantasy XV is going to be awful
Does Sup Forums just want this to be the new Tortanic or something?

I don't watch let's plays you fucking retard, it was a commentary-less playthrough of a leaked game I was interested in.
God forbid I watch it to form opinion whether I should buy the game or not.
Seriously kill yourself, you reek of paid shill.

Best thing about the game.
But really, there isn't a single FF game with bad music.