Why does no video game demonstrate the superior Lars Andersen form of archery...

Why does no video game demonstrate the superior Lars Andersen form of archery? Even the superpowered fantasy archers in games don't come close to his speed or technique.

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Cause its a forgotten technique.

>throw light pieces of plastic with almost no force whatsoever
>call it "archery"

It's a rediscovered technique now

Is there any other game that does heavy, satisfying strength longbows as good as Dragon's Dogma? Dex shortbows are for fags.

Lars Anderson's archery is real pretty and fast, but it doesn't dig in at all. Just barely making it past chainmail means dick when they wear a heavy-ass plate over it, plus everything under the chain. At the force his arrows fly at, they'd be lucky to scratch people.

In reality, archers did go pretty fucking fast, but that's because they were trained to do the same motion for years to the point they had gangly long arms and wide shoulders that could naturally pull at the necessary poundage to penetrate armor.

Because what he's doing is practically trick shooting with what seems to be a bow with very low draw weight.

durka persians didn't' wear plate mail, that's why it was so effective

>the necessary poundage to penetrate armor.
I'm not sure a human could do that. There's a reason people wore armour; it's practically immune to arrows. Pretty sure there are more than a few videos on youtube where people using proper longbows and properly made plate armour test the thesis.

He says this in the description. He couldn't do the tricks using longbows, so he settled for short ones.

That's butted cheap aluminum mail with no solid rings every 5. A screwdriver can penetrate that.

Watch out everyone, its the archeryfags, be careful or else they might annoy and bore you to death.

muh manuscripts

>Egyptian hieroglyph shows it
Its true. This is astonishing.

Also look at his body. He isn't a strength fag. He looks jut like a skill fag. This is proof that bows aren't inherently strength weapons and that games are actually sort of right.

Let me teach you about real men's archery

Mobile ballista platforms don't count.

>Just barely making it past chainmail means dick when they wear a heavy-ass plate over it
that's generally not how armour was worn
but barely piercing mail doesn't mean shit yes, due to the padding underneath or even light padding would make it pointless
the video is just meme shit really
>durka persians didn't' wear plate mail
"plate mail" or "plated mail" is literally from indopersia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plated_mail

Am I missing something here? These guys weren't shit but I always hear people complaining about them.

pssh
>rides circles around you

*twang*

>bowstring behind arm
Which manuscript did he learn this from?

The same one that teaches to shoot lances

Does anyone seriously listen to what this guy says?

What he uses in the videos isn't at level of the strongest warbows and arrows but it was mentioned somewhere and the draw weight is respectable (more than modern sport archery and historical hunting bows). Recurve and composite designs (as seen in Mongol bows for instance) allow bows to pack more poundage while remaining relatively short.

Anyway, while I have no doubt that historical master archers were superior to contemporary people (Lars too, at least in feats of skill with some practical use), it shouldn't be forgotten that war archery isn't about making jumping shots and such like. You wouldn't train to shoot at the enemy while falling off a horse for instance, you'd train to not fall off a horse. In this sense what's shown in the video is trick shooting and not practical war/hunting archery even if his shooting method is more historical than contemporary sports archery.

Mount and Blade: Warband

He could shoot those at my bare chest and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't feel them.

wtf I hate archery now

He wants to have a game that showcases superior archery skills.

The closest game to this is Dragons Crown. Use the Elf. She can launch up to four arrows at once depending on your stat investment. She also has limited arrows and has to pick up the ones she used or the ones enemies drop.

He's doing legolas surfing on shields in helms deep shit. If you were playing a arcadey, cuhrayzee fantasy DMC game I could see it. Action games with archery usually let you run around and skirmish anyway.

Doesn't work with mass combat and blocks of troops however.

Mounted Archery or bust.

I want dexfags to leave and stay leave

>I'm not sure a human could do that.
Longbowmen were barely of human proportion. Toss on a bodkin and the damage is kinda fucking freaky.

the new tomb raiders i guess?

Lara actually does unlock the ability to hold extra arrows in her bow hand in the newest Tomb Raider

Well, a hauberk was worn with plate armour for a rather long time. At first it was most definitely used (13th century) because early designs of plate armour didn't incorporate a backplate and in the 14th century it was still worn although at some point a hauberk was abandoned in favour of discrete mail sleeves. In the heyday of plate in 15th and 16th centuries mail could be dropped off completely because of better steel and better coverage of plates while advancements in metallurgy allowed cuirasses and other pieces to be made cheaply and issued to common soldiers (who most definitely didn't wear more expensive mail underneath) but there was a pretty long time when plate armour was worn with a hauberk.

This guy has very exhaustive and well-researched videos of history of armour: youtube.com/user/neosonic66

As much as people wank over the longbow, it was really inefficient in terms of strength required to the power it it actually propels the arrow, eastern composite bows were more efficient.
You could shoot a bow with the same power without needing to be a gorilla.

People were small in ye olden times due to poor nutrition and health

But which has the better range?

depends on the period sure but if you're talking about a full harness no, you've got mail in the voiders but that's not the same thing
>At first it was most definitely used (13th century)
there wasn't plate armour in the 13th century
earliest plate designs were in the mid 14th century, closest things to plate in the late 13th/early 14th century was the coat of plates
>allowed cuirasses and other pieces to be made cheaply and issued to common soldiers
armour wasn't issued by the country till much later
also by the 15th century a simple hauberk didn't cut it for the average infantryman, they wore a brigandine at least

I wasn't even wanking, they're just ugly, gangly motherfuckers who had the necessary proportions to pull far enough.

If you get an arrow in your eye, between your ribs or on your stomach it doesn't fucking matter. Two-three inches is all it takes and you're dead.

Most of the armies they fought didn't wear the iconic heavy armor from the late medieval era that you're obviously thinking of, either so there was no need.

In a video game each arrow he shoots would be doing 1 damage. Any armor at all would make it 0 damage.

composite bows, longbows actually had better power but worse range since the arrows they used tended to be a lot larger

I've heard that with a long range arcing shot, the arrow would gain sufficient speed on the descend to pierce pretty much anything. Is this accurate? You seem to know shit.

I was probably thinking of coat of plates (or got 13th century1200s kind of thing mixed up). Now that you mention it, the years I mentioned are certainly wrong. However, I don't think I'm incorrect about plate and hauberks being worn together in the early days of plate and that was what I was really wanting to point out.

I've read that arrows generally weren't immediately fatal, and you could still fight after being plinked a few times - unless you took a particularly nasty one. They'd still fuck your shit up, though.

>However, I don't think I'm incorrect about plate and hauberks being worn together in the early days of plate and that was what I was really wanting to point out.
no you're not, the churburg's a good example
no that's bullshit

Depends more on the arrow than the bow i think

Ice arrows

He literally pierces chainmail in the video.

It's trick shots, all there is to it.

Not even if the archer is elevated compared to the target? Like he's on the castle walls or something? Seemed plausible to me.

*Butted chainmail.

>I've learned to parrot this one argument therefore I'm an authority on this matter
Imbecile.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=rDbqz_07dW4
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This video proves he's a faggot, watch it folks.

Real question now

were poisoned arrows ever used in actual war or were they just reserved for hunting animals?

I don't think a fucking arrow's terminal velocity would add any significant power

>Implying I'm parroting an argument that actually isn't well researched with facts

That is what he's doing you dumbass. Tell Lars not to fuck you so hard in the ass next time.

Not an expert, but doesn't seem plausible for an army to produce enough posion to equip its archers with it. Also it probably kills too slowly to matter anway.

even if the whole 'forgotten archery techniques' is a meme you have to admit it is pretty impressive to shoot an arrow mid-flight

well it helps but it isn't turning bows into guns
in agincourt the longbowmen shot down and straight, but they didn't pierce the plate armour they just slowed them down or pierced weakend/exposed areas like the sides of the helmet or areas covered by voiders
but if you mean shooting up and using gravity, no since the arrow loses power over distance, shooting up and having them fall down is more conservation of energy rather than actually gaining energy
course it's an advantage in certain situations where if you need to shoot up and over, since crossbows can't do that since quarrels are too light
same thing with slings really, but slings got outmoded earlier due to the serious number of issues with em

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depends on what you mean poison
they most probably dipped the tips in poop and such from time to time

if by poison you mean mud or shit, yes

If I were an archer commander I would tell all of my guys to take poops and dip their arrows in it

>tfw too intelligent too command armies

Things in general aren't immediately fatal (certainly when heart and brains aren't involved). People can go down and not get up if they hear a bang even if they aren't hit but on the other hand, there are also accounts of people being pretty much torn to shreds and still operating, at least for a while.

However, at least historically puncture wounds in general could be thought to be less incapacitating (due to a smaller wound) but more lethal (due to lack of effective treatments to that kind of injuries). In addition, depth of penetration is important: suppose an arrow bursts one mail link and arrow has a centimetre of penetration. If it doesn't get stopped by padding, it's not going to be lethal so you could look like a pincushion and not have a single incapacitating wound.

But if an arrow actually penetrates the body, we certainly aren't talking about "dying to disease a week after" kind of myths. You can hunt game bigger than humans with bow and arrow and expect the prey to go down.

Alright. Thank you for the insight.

That looks fun as fuck

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weren't the mesoamerican civilizations using frog poison or whatever?

more like
>tfw too scatological to be allowed to command armies

Fuck You Denmark

Not even relevant to anything I said, you're the one who's sucking off some dumb youtubers for dear life who are butthurt just because he made something cool and they didn't.
Once again, kys imbecile. Try copying a fucking book next time, and make sure you get to the final page before you delude yourself into thinking you've got anything to say whatsoever.

You would hit them harder by shooting the arrow directly than if you tried to shoot it upwards to use gravity or something. Think about it like this: without accounting for air friction the two would be equal because of conservation of energy, and once you account for it, the "shoot upwards" method would have the arrowing losing more energy to friction so it would reach the target with less overall energy.

Him pointing arrows at the camera makes me uneasy

Imagine how demoralized armies would be if they knew they were going up against the Order of Poopswords. One nick and you're fucking dead. I'd have formed an eternal empire.

no problem, but don't take my word for it, actually look into it if you're interested
matt easton has done a lot of videos on longbows and 15th century combat in general, along with interviews with tobias capwell who's an expert in the field and even does jousting
youtube.com/channel/UCt14YOvYhd5FCGCwcjhrOdA
for arrows i don't know but i know that was the main point of blowguns

Fuck you too

>implying Lars is a faggot
>linking to this ice cold super skank

nu Sup Forums is real

>Andersen's "proof" is old pictures! Don't believe him in that point
>Andersen can't catch an arrow, I have Mythbuster proof, believe ME in this point!

Aha, but if the archer is elevated, the arrow would spend more time in descent than ascent.

But yeah I see now it's a retarded idea.

Guy didn't say "quivers don't exist", only that it was impractical to carry arrows in it in a fight


Gal sounds assblasted, as if she was trainging archery her whole life the wrong way.
Like those kids that grew up playing LoL and then discovering Dota calling on them "stealing this or that champ"

Is Blood Money better then Absolution?

>Order of Poopswords

"Squire, fetch the sacred chamberpots. Those scoundrels know not what they've stepped in."

They were fucking insane sacrifical niggas so they were up to something more creative than frog poison

Is archery the supreme meme reddit sport?

It's fun but people take it way too seriously and develop some sort of superiority complex because of it

so yeah

Why didn't medieval dudes just order a guy to go to a forest near an enemy village and start a fire? I'd do that all the time if I was in charge.

They wanted the land/women/livestock there.

>chainmail AND heavy plate
Stop watching lord of the rings and thinking its accurate faggot.

Then you would rule over burned villages & dead villagers. Good job.

t. Nobunaga

>come back in 50-100 years after nature sorts itself out
>or just immediately take the 99% of uninhabited land that didn't need to be scorched
>free, defenseless land
Sounds good to me

Land is useless if its uninhabited retard. Armies NEED serfs to produce for them.
Without massive and constant supplies an army starves in a week or two at most.

idfc I want to fuck that milf pussy

Why would my army be hanging out in this empty land I burned the shit out of? I'd just have my villagers building town centers and farms and shit

The video look like a joke at first but the more you watch it the more legit it seems. It didn't help that the guy went out of his way to have fun with it and move non-stop which while look silly proves that he could shoot an arrow no fucking matter what was happening at the time.

Seem like the people who didn't get it didn't watch more than a minute or completely miss the point. He could most likely literally shoot an arrow while falling off a horse and still hit his target and most likely 3 more while recovering and getting up to shoot at even more targets.

Like say what you want but the guy made a good point, just look silly as fuck until you think about it.

>come back in 50-100 years
Jesus i dont think i read anything more retarded in a while

>nations die with their leaders
>leaders don't plan for the future
This is why I'm a king and you're a shitty serf with a burned down hut

Infection killed more people than swords or arrows ever did.

They used to be in a different spot that made it more likely to knock you off. A patch made it easier.