There will never be decent Star Wars games again

>There will never be decent Star Wars games again

>EA owns the rights to SW vidya for 10 years

>The Force Awakens was shit and so will be all future movies

It hurts.

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>The Force Awakens was shit

nope.

>There will never be decent Star Wars games again
It'll hurt until the day I die. I'll miss Battlefront and Jedi Knight.

>The force awakens was shit

Fuck off

Amy Henning's the writer for one. If the gameplay's good the game's gonna be amazing.

> Force Awakens was shit

Compared to what? Because the prequels were complete fucking trash, and Force Awakens is still better than Return of the Jedi.

Literally only New Hope and Empire are better than Force Awakens, despite all of it's lore breaking shit.

Dead space team is working on a third person action game.

Atleast combat will feel good.

The first half hour and last half hour of RotJ are better than TFA but all the shit in the middle yeah sure

It is shit.

>Rey has no development whatsoever and succeeds at everything making her an incredibly annoying and boring character
>Finn does fuckall besides lying in the movie for whatever reason
>Rehashes every single plotpoint of New Hope even though it makes zero sense
>The entire premise is bullshit with Luke and Han leaving the universe alone and letting it fall into the Orders hands

And it's not like the plot is the only bad thing.
Everything else about it sucks as well.
John Williams score is the worst Star Wars score he made so far - You barely notice anything.
The universe is an incredibly boring place.
You get a generic desert planet - A generic grass planet and a generic ice planet. And the movie ends with Luke waiting for nobody on a single island that is even a real location on Earth. Where are the fantastic sets and strange worlds?
And the acting is terrible as well. Boyega overacts for most of the movie and most of Reys expressions rarely make sense whatsover.

You're nitpicking. If the movie was 60 minutes long, it be even more shit.

The entirety of FA vs the entirety of RotJ, FA wins out. Look into your heart. You know it to be true.

5 > 4 = 6 > 3 > 1 > 2 > 7

>disney fags

I think people have managed to fool themselves into forgetting just how slow A New Hope is
It's 45 fucking minutes before Han Solo shows up

You read this and it's sounds like you're picking apart so 4, 5, and 6 without understanding what what made them good.

I'm not going to sit here and say FA is the best SW movie, but the consistent denial that it doesn't hold up to the original trilogy as a standalone piece is typical internet pleb "Everything new is bad" horseshit. Every desiccation of the movie hits points that could be said interchangeably about Empire, and it makes me feel like you have no fucking idea what you're talking about and just want to jump on the SW hate meme, or you don't like the movie because you're bitter and jaded, but you don't understand that and you have no real reason to hate the movie aside from that, so you go for the problems that exist in every movie except those few that are perfect fucking masterpieces.

No, FA isn't a fucking masterpiece. But neither was the original trilogy.

I don't give a fuck about the Star Wars films.

All I want is a Republic Commando sequel.

>>Rehashes every single plotpoint of New Hope even though it makes zero sense
>John Williams score is the worst Star Wars score he made so far - You barely notice anything.
>The universe is an incredibly boring place.
>You get a generic desert planet - A generic grass planet and a generic ice planet. And the movie ends with Luke waiting for nobody on a single island that is even a real location on Earth. Where are the fantastic sets and strange worlds?
I agree with these points. Episode VII wasn't terrible, just very disappointing for me.
Let's hope Episode VIII will be more ambitious

I don't give a shit about Rogue One

A New Hope had less retarded moments than FA had.

TFA is the worst Star Wars movie not because its a rehash of ANH.
It is the worst Star Wars movie because it is a rehash of ANH and significantly worse.

Luke is a far more better character than Rey.
Han Solo is also a far more better character than Rey.
Why do i compare those two to Rey? Because Rey is taking over both boys positions - Lukes main character jedi position and Hans pilot position because she can literally do everything she wants.

And Darth Vader was a far more threatening and intelligent villian than Kylo Ren was.
Kylo Ren is a fucking retard whos actions never make any sense.
When the Millenium Falcon got away from Vader and escaped he didn't threw a fit. Vaders actions always made sense. Meanwhile Kylo kills the old man on Jakku without even searching in his head for informations but does exactly that on the rebel pilot Poe a scene later. Why? How does that make sense? And why does Poe even shoot at Kylo after he killed the old man instead of using the chance to get away with his robot? And why does Finn want to free the guy who killed his one and only Stormtrooper buddy? If anything that should make him hate the Resistence.

TFA is an incredibly dumb and lazy movie. It's script is not as bad as the average prequel script but besides that its clearly weaker in most other sectors.

republic commando didn't go far enough with the tactical shooter elements

>Han dying for nothing
>Chewbacca and Leia not even interacting after Han's death
>instead she's hugging the strange girl she's never even met before
>republic and rebels

4 > 6 (ewoks alone ruin 6, rehashed death star), but otherwise pretty accurate.

>2
>not dead last
I thought 7 was lame but come on son. 2 was a legitimately bad movie

>so called remnants of the empire are somehow stronger than the empire
>all the nu-republic fleet are somehow parked in the main system of the republic and gets nuked the fucked off so we can go back to gay ass underdog rebel vs. big evil empire
nigga just no

>Hans death
>Kylo said he sensed his father being on the planet but can't even detect him when he is a few meters away from him and even walks into the wrong direction so Han needs to shout his name
>meanwhile Chewie and Finn and Rey watch that shit without attacking Kylo - Note that Finn and Rey have no idea what the relation between Han and Kylo is
>The stormtroopers that Chewie shoots appear out of thin air the second he shoots Kylo - Before that the hall was empty
>Rey cries like she lost her father even though she didn't even know Han for even a day

Hans death is just bad. He deserved better than such a shitty scene.

Wheres my Rogue squadron VR game at

I agree TFA wasn't all that amazing but you realise Kylo Ren is *supposed* to be shitty, right? He can't even make a lightsaber properly

Wasn't shit but it surely isn't the masterpiece everyone is jerking themselves to.
Fuck even Rogue One for what we have seen is more original than TFA and everyone already knows what is the basic story and ending.

> but you realise Kylo Ren is *supposed* to be shitty, right? He can't even make a lightsaber properly

According to TFA Kylo is the protegy student of Luke Skywalker and killed all of Lukes other students
He is anything but shitty with the force.

Why couldn't they at least do Battlefront right?

Because
>DICE

How would you feel if Respawn made a Republic Commando sequel?

>the only good parts of TFA were the air/space battles
Yeah they account for like 60 seconds of footage, but by the end of the first act I was wishing they'd dump Rey and Finn and just focus on Po blowing out space niggers in his sweet ass X Wing.

>And the movie ends with Luke waiting for nobody on a single island that is even a real location on Earth.

Many seabirds died to bring us this scene
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If they were smart they'd make the Knights of ren be competent users and Kylo the spoiled child who leads them only because of his heritage

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> the prequels were complete fucking trash
If Lucas wasn't surrounded by yes men, the prequels would BTFO The Pottery Awakens.

As garbage as some things of the prequels might be, none of those had a copypasted plot with a Mary Sue stronk character, an edgelord that makes Anakin look like a functional adult, and instances of the where you see the worst of both CGI and practical effects.

And let's not forget the Marvel tier humour and the bullshit force powers.

...

Prequels had literally all of that, though

It wasn't shit
It wasn't good either

It was the most safe movie in history of cinema.

Nah. I know people mostly shit on it for taking elements from A New Hope but that really isn't all of it.

Like mentioned here Kylo Ren makes no sense in the way he acts.
Rey is a worse character than Luke.
Most of the development in the movie makes no sense.

>Kylo on Jakku
>Why does Poe want to shoot that one Star Destroyer gun and after that go back to Jakku - He didn't even destroy all of the guns
>Before the attack on the bar Finn had a rifle on his back - Its suddenly gone when he goes outside and so gets forced to use the lightsaber
>Shit like the Millenium Falcon being on Jakku and the first person in space they run into being Han
>The Order not following them after Rey destroyed the Tie Fighters on Jakku with the Falcon

I don't have the faintest inkling how people can think TFA is a better movie than the prequels.
The prequels had a coherent plot that made sense while TFA is a lazily thrown together clusterfuck of elements taken from the classic trilogy, as already elaborated here

>The prequels had a coherent plot that made sense

...

Don't forget:

The writers were all sitting around the table planning TFA, and they were considering what the big bad thing should be. One plucky woman with a Skrillex doo perks up and says, "The classic movies succeeded with the Death Star the size of a small moon... let's go bigger... let's make a Death Star the size of a planet! Let's make it shoot FIVE lasers! Let's blow up FIVE Alderaans!" One guy in the back of the room tries to interject, "B-but RoTJ already did another Death Star, we can't do ANOTHER one..." No one hears him. A Hollywood guy with gauged ears shouts, "Ooh! Let's make this giant Death Star actually suck up entire stars to power itself!" The room erupts in applause, except for the guy from earlier who says, "But, if it absorbed an entire sun, it would then have the mass of the entire sun, and its gravity would crush anything on its surface... it's completely unrealistic..." An overweight, blue-haired assistant shouts, "CURVED LASERS! LIGHTSABER CROSSGUARDS!" The room is filled with hooting and hollering, and the man from before sulks home and never leaves his house again.

He gets it.

Any anons who rank similarly should try out the Thrawn novels for some good Star Wars feels.

The ONLY thing that you right about is the CGI, and even then I'd pick that 2 seconds PS1 Gungan over that massless clusterfuck that was that pointless tentacle monster that appeared during like 5 minutes.

>they were considering what the big bad thing should be
I wish it would've been Sheev coming back in one of his clone bodies.

I greatly dislike TFA, but I think Kylo is one of the better inclusions in the movie because, well, he's different. He's an angsty teen Vader wannabe. He's unpredictable. I kind of like seeing how he fucks shit up. He's covering new ground, unlike pretty much everyone else in TFA.

at least the prequels tried something new.

TFA was A New Hope rehash

Almost.
5 > 4 > 6 = 3 > 2 > 1 > 7

Is this for real or just a pasta?
Please tell me it's just a pasta...

At least it wasn't pozzed and had originality to it.

Correct.

the prequels are better than tfa because at least they were funny-bad

Switch 1 and 2, and make 7=2 and it will be 100% accurate.

>tfw we'll never get a Star Wars: The New Republic Bioware RPG because both Lucasfilm AND Bioware have been ruined

Forgot a couple things.
Firstly: 5 > 4 > 6 = 3 > 2 > 1 > 7 >>>>>> Rogue One.
Secondly: Always watch in Machete Order, excluding 1 and 7. It legitimately improves the flow of the series when marathoning.

Personal preference. Child Anakin's acting will always be more irritating to me than muh sand getting everywhere.

To say nothing about how the idea that the First Order would ever be allowed to exist, to say nothing of how they apparently have this insanely powerful military, makes no sense.

>The prequels had a coherent plot that made sense

1 Had space battle and droids that were actually a threat and not just comic relief goons (2 is like the transition between those which is fine but 3 is just horrible in that sense and TCW is even worse)
But you have a point tho.

Nah
Backstroke of the West >5 > 4 > 6 >7>3 >1>2

>Empire at the height of its power is able to build the Death Star which is able to destroy planets from close range.
>First Order which is a shadow of the Empire's former power is able to build a space station by hollowing out AN ENTIRE PLANET which destroys entire star systems from HALFWAY across the galaxy.

>Machete Order
Awful meme desu
Just watch them in release order

5 > 4 > 6 > 3 > 2 = 1 > Spaceballs > 7

>Watch resolution in plot.
>lol okay guys now we go watch what happened before even though the prequels are noticeably inferior and all suspense over the fates of the characters will be gone already.
Machete Order is the only way to include the prequels which doesn't turn the series into a mess.

>Wanting Republic Commando sequel
>By EA
>Will force in nigger or an annoying woman to replace Sev because current year vidya
Nah, please don't. Better it be a mystery than it being shit.

you saw rogue one already? How was it?

>Spaceballs
>not better than Star Wars

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Compared to TFA, yes.

Nigga no-one actually gives a fuck about that shit, it's Star Wars, you've seen them all before
You're not watching them so you can write an objective critical analysis for your movie blog you're watching them cause you want to see some Jedis and shit

>Star Wars: Imperial Commando
>You end up rescuing Sev
>Sev takes his helmet off
>Post yfw they retcon him into a nigger

>Shitters defending the Prequels
>Shitters placing 2 over 7

Thing is no one has a single fucking clue what they're talking about when they say "TFA is ANH 2.0 cause I read that somewhere!!1!!111!!!"

Star Wars is quite literally one big rehash. It's a technique that Lucas employed often. He saw the success that ANH had so in ROTJ, he just did the same as the first film except biggerer and betterer! A recurring theme in all of Star Wars is mirroring itself. The Prequels tried this but failed badly. Everything they tried to imitate from the OT just felt soulless and cheap. TFA also has it's similarities but in context, the differences are enough. ANH didn't open up with a slaughter of a village, doesn't end with the discovery of a mystic hermit, a major vision never gets sparked by a lightsaber, we never get the POV of a stormtrooper etc. TFA isn't anywhere near a masterpiece, it has it's flaws(like why the fuck is there even still a "rebellion") but to just regurgitate the same dead beat argument of "it's just copy paste ANH!!!" is willful ignorance. Most of the time, these people probably couldn't even coherently elaborate on that statement.

Also Rey isn't nearly as OP as people make her out to be. Whether that changes or not is to be seen. Still wish her and Kylo fought to a draw instead of her beating him though.

>people ranking VII worse than the prequels because muh Sup Forums
>people forgetting about literally everything that wasn't Sheev or Obi-wan
Didn't know that so many people could choose to be retarded. Always thought it was a genetics thing.

If you're marathoning it, it's the most cohesive and entertaining way to watch the movies.

wrong
5 > 4 = 6 > 7 > 3 > 1 > 2
7 is a rehash of 4, you can't say it's worse than 2 without saying 4 is. It's a stupid and inferior rehash to 4 of course. And JJ is the biggest joke of a director because plagiarizing George Lucas is the peak of his career.

If I want to be entertained I wouldn't marathon Star Wars because 50% of the films are garbage

>Also Rey isn't nearly as OP as people make her out to be

>only lived in a desert shithole
>can understand wookie and nobody EVER understands wookie
>can fly the Millenium Falcon after trying it one time and even masters it
>knows the Millenium Falcon better than Han Solo knows it
>stronger than a group of trained alien thugs
>learns advanced force techniques without master only by trying them
>doesn't believe jedi exists at first and thinks they are a myth yet knows what mindcontrol is and uses it
>beats Kylo Ren - The guy who beat and killed all of Lukes students and that without ever having trained with a lightsaber

Prequels were Star Wars movies which were low quality and didn't make sense. TFA was a high budget generic sci-fi/Star Wars noncanon crossover which was low quality and didn't make sense.

Impossible because they're all clones of the spic. Making one a nigger would be lore breaking. Nah something equally insideous would be adding a wise ass dyke or nigger that's cucking boss by being a better leader. Either way EA better not even fucking think about defiling Republic Commando.

wait, WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING HERE?

Jesus Christ this makes me sad and angry. And for all for an awkward drawn out scene. TFA should've just ended with the Millennium Falcon flying into hyperspace.

They won't because they avoid the prequel material and Disney officials said they might retcon all of the prequels in the future and make ''new prequels'' for everyone

>Making one a nigger would be lore breaking
The Star wars franchises exists at this point solely for its lore to be slowly gangraped to death in front of its fans by a crowd of normies and executives, with JJ Abrams spearing his circumcised cock straight through its ass.

>is a mechanic while Han is not
>never actually mastered the Falcon but nice try
>advanced force power
>one even novice Jedi can do at the click of the wrist
>implied to have combat experience from living in the wastes for her whole life
>barely overcame a shitter in what was effectively a 3v1
JJ went out of his way to have stupid pointless scenes like Han firing the bowcaster to show how strong it was or Rey gettin pissy at that other scavenger so idiots like you would actually pick up on the baby's first reincorporation he used in this movie. You're such an idiot. The only thing that isn't explained is her ability to pilot at all.

Who cares. Star trek has always been better in every way but mindless action.

TFA is really shit.

And most of the errors could easily be fixed - It's just that Jar Jar Abrams is too stupid to even get the most simple things right.

Let's take Jakku for example.
Instead of Kylo pulling his retarded stunt there let him find Poe while talking with the old man resulting in the old man getting killed because he has no use for him anymore with Poe being there.
Already an improvement.

Or take the battle of Kylo versus Rey with Rey winning plus the shitty end sequence with Luke.
The lightsaber should fly towards Luke instead who shows up in the last minute to save Rey and Finn from Kylo with all of them escaping together.

Dude it's a movie about a young desert planet dweller who dreams of bigger things that gets caught up in a rebellion against an evil galactic empire with the help of an old hand who fought in the previous war and who has a close connection with the villain, and then they all discover the evil empire has a planetary superweapon they have to infiltrate to destroy before the rebellion is lasered by it, and in the process the old mentor is killed by the boy he raised who turned to evil and the young protagonist awakens to their destiny as a Jedi
I could be describing TFA or ANH here
And yeah, a lot of that is also reflected in the prequels, but they fucking suck too and at least have the excuse that it's explaining the story of the the main character's dad so of course there's parallels

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How shocking.

They can't touch Republic Commando because they made an appearance on the TV show. So their game and other events they did are canon. I don't know if I should be thankful or sad because that means Disney and EA have their clawed fingers around it's throat now.

Jj is a nigger who ruins everything he touches.

>Literally overwriting entire films made by Lucas.
Damn.

Star Trek is shit outside of TOS and some of the movies, but Star Trek TOS is better than Star Wars.

>"The jedi really existed?!"
>uses mind control 20 minuts later

>>never actually mastered the Falcon but nice try
Have you seen the stunts she pulled in it?
It was fine at first when she was still eating sand with the Falcon. It showed that she had no experience with it. But out of sudden she was able to fly through narrow tunnels and did loopings.
>>one even novice Jedi can do at the click of the wrist
Anakin the Midiclorian Chosen One baby never did anything like that.

>ds9 is shit
>enterprise is shit
I'll give you voyager, but you're shit.

Season 4 and 5 of TNG are fucking excellent friendo, get a clue

>Finn looks surprised as well and can't believe what Han is saying
>literally worked under a Sith Lord

Picard will never measure up to Kirk. I only had to watch a few episodes of TNG's first season to know that. Give me a reason for why I should bother.

Great input champ. While I'm inclined to agree, that has nothing to do with this conversation.
Oh no, she did something risky and barely got away with it.
Anakin also never needed to so he never did. It's like you don't understand how simple Lucas's writing is.

>only lived in desert shithole
Like Luke, like Anakin
>can understand wookie
I'll give you that one user, for now. Problem with films like Star Wars with some all powerful magic is that they cut corners. Wouldn't be surprised if they say "the Force."
>can fly Millenium Falcon and masters it
Do we ever see Luke or Anakin learning how to fly their respective ships? Luke's a farm boy but somehow outflies professional pilots. Anakin hops in a ship at the age of 12 and is competent. Besides, she crashed into a few things, hardly what I call mastery.
>knows Millenium Falcon better than Han
Not much evidence for that at all except a one off instance where her idea was a shot in the dark.
>Stronger than a group of trained alien thugs
Literally nothing indicates they're trained at all. And she had a giant piece of metal for a weapon.
>Learns advanced force techniques without master only by trying them
Luke gets a lightsaber. 20 minutes later he's able to deflect blaster bolts while blinded. In the next movie we never see him train with the lightsaber again yet he goes toe-to-toe with Vader and manages to get a few surprising hits in. I suppose that's believable.
>Beats Kylo Ren
The guy who just tanked a crossbow bolt to the torso, something we see blow stormtroopers into the air, and after killing his own father. Prime conditions for fighting right? Luke's students could've been a bunch of 10 year olds for all we know. I wish that she hadn't beaten Kylo either but it's not as unbelievable as you may think.

People who like TFA while shitting on the prequels never were Star Wars fans.

Getting the Millenium Falcon and Han thrown into your face doesn't make it Star Wars.

I am not saying the prequels were good but saying they were bad while claiming that TFA isn't bad is just pure insanity.