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Shogun 2> FoTS> Napoopan= Empire= Rome> Mediveal 2
from what I played.

Rtw 9/10
M2tw 8.5/10

Never played the first 2 tw games

The rest is a shit-tier dlc fest.

Medieval>Rome>Medieval II>Empire>Shogun>Rome II

The ones I've played in order.

Attila > Shogun 2 = Fall of the Samurai > Warhammer > Napoopan > Empire > Rome 2

Attila
>Most difficult TW ever, shit tons of variety in factions, religions, city razing, wonderful DLC

Shogun 2
>Incredibly polished, balanced, agent movies, speeches, religions

FotS
>Everything that made Shogun 2 great but with guns, cannons and fucking gatling guns

Warhammer
>Amazing faction variety, magic, monster units, flying units and heroes, but a lot more simplistic than other TW games

Napoopan
>Like Empire, but polished and on a smaller scale. Good but forgettable.

Empire
>Poorly executed and outclassed by FotS in every way

Rome 2
>Irredeemably shit, just a terrible version of Attila

I'm used to people acting like the series started at Rome, you might be the first person I've seen to rank it started from fucking Empire

I specifically didn't include Medieval 2 and Rome because they're nothing like the new ones and just trigger autists like you

Medieval 2 > shogun > Rome

Attila>>>M2>Shogun 2>Rome>Napoleon>>>Rome 2>>Empire
Never played the first two or FotS

Medieval 1 > Medieval 2 > Attila > Rome > Shogun 2/FotS > Napoleon > Shogun 1 > Rome 2 > Empire

Shogun 2 > Empire > Rome 2 > Medieval 2 > Rome 1

Rome 1 was fairly good when it was released, but now it's pretty bad. You can have 800K shekels in 100-150 turns while owning half of the world

Medieval 2 was also good, but they ruined it with patches that broke the game and never really fixed it. Looking back at it, it's was pretty bad with plenty of fun-ruining glitches.

Rome 2 was shit at release, but it's better now. It's still a boring game though.

Empire was something new and is pretty fun. It started changing the province system. Then there was this retarded meme where you could kill France by rushing two poorly defended cities...

Shogun 2 is the best for me because it actually took some skill to complete. Very little replay value though.

All TW games suffer from shit AI, bad diplomacy and unrealistic balancing in the factions.

I haven't played the rest.

Attila > Medieval 2 = Age of Charlemagne > Rome 1 > Shogun 2 = Napolean > Empire > Medieval > Shogun > Warhammer

Anyone who tells you Shogun 2 is the best is objectively talking shit and likely started with it.

Shogun 2 isn't the best but it is a great game. The only problem with it is that the only faction is Japan. Ikko Ikki and Christian Otomo alleviate it somewhat.

You didn't trigger me, it was just interesting to see someone be the next level of new

>medieval so low
Fuck off pleb

You never played the pre Rome games.

Anyone who tells you Medieval 2 is a great game is objectively talking shit and has nostalgia for it.

ok bud

M2>Rome>Warhammer
Everything else is shit

>Medieval 2
Yeah, but the insane amount of GOOD total conversion mods for Med2 more than make up for its shortcomings elsewhere, in my opinion.

reddit: the trilogy

If you're talking vanilla, maybe. The strength of its modding community though takes it up multiple notches. Stop shitposting.

Rome: TW > Medieval > Medieval 2 > Shogun

I'll be honest, I have some of the modern TWs, but I haven't installed or played them.

>warscape only

1. Rome 2
2. Shogun 2
3. Attila
4. Empire
5. Napoleon
6. Warhammer

>modding
not an argument. Med2 has really good mods, but that doesn't mean you should rank it high when comparing it to the other vanilla games.

You didn't specify vanilla, which is why I mentioned it.

Medieval 2 = Rome > Fall of The Samurai > Shogun 2 > Attila > Napoleon > Empire > Rome 2

I also have to add:
Shogun and Medieval maps > 3D maps

Who here actually played Shogun 1 except me?
It was fucking good

I really wish the units varied per faction somewhat. I guess it'd be historically inaccurate though, more so than it already was.

>rome 2 is shit meme

FotS>Warhammer>Med2>Shogun 2>Atilla>Napoopan>Rome II>Rome>Empire.

>geisha spam

ended up playing it like an economics game pumping out geisha and out producing rivals.

Rome > Shogun 2 > Napoleon > Empire > Rome 2

Haven't played the rest

It's the best game for new players though because the lack of variety means units just boil down to rock paper scissors. The other games can be confusing as fuck even for me when you have like 5 heavy infantry with barely differing stats.

ME2>WH>R>S2>R2>A>N>E
Napoleon and Empire so low because I hate guns-centric total wars

Nostalgia me would probably agree, but it does get incredibly simplistic after awhile. I tried playing it recently, then got bored and started playing around with things like all Kensai armies that really had no business winning against much larger conventional armies, but still managed to win via micromanaging them, fighting in woods, etc.

To expand on this,

Medieval 1 is my favorite due to the risk style campaign map, every single unit having names officers and traits, responsive units compared to M2 while not being arcadey like RTW, a consistent aesthetic that is historically authentic, neat battle mechanics like dismounting knights before battles, betraying allies mid battle, actually working gunners and pikemen. It's a great and heavily overlooked game. Even Mike Simpson the "father" of TW thinks it's the best.

I rank M2 so high because of the sheer amount of total conversion mods for it that can keep you entertained for hundreds and hours and sometimes alleviate the problems of the base game.

Attila takes third place because it's actually challenging, decently paced, and more fleshed out than Barbarian Invasion.

Rome is a game where I really dislike the campaign map but the sieges in it are great and the units move naturally instead of Medieval 2 so I have fond multiplayer memories of it.

Shogun 2/FotS also had great MP but I really dislike how they make you pay for DLC if you want any unit variety.

Napoleon is a solid game but I'm just not the biggest gunpowder TW fan.

Shogun 1 is so low not because it's a bad game, but because Medieval 1 is so much better and I'm pretty sure it can be used to play Shogun 1 with updated mechanics with a mod. The game itself still holds up great after a recent replay though.

Rome 2 was a big disappointment and still really isn't worth playing even with DeI because of how fucked the campaign map mechanics are and also because Attila is a fix of it just like Napoopan.

Empire is the lowest because the only way you'll enjoy it is if you're a huge fan of the setting because it's thoroughly mediocre and was never fixed with patches.

Shogun II = FotS > Medieval > Rome > Napoleon > Empire

And I haven't played the rest. This isn't quality, rather the ones I had the most fun playing.

My first game in the series was Empire as well. I eventually did play Med2 and Rome, but not everyone was born autistically attached to the TW Series. I just bought Empire because it was the first game I saw be as tactically in-depth about the 18th century and desu I loved the history of the 18th century as a kid

That being said, is Warhammer any good? Avoided buying it because I'm a /his/trionic freak but magic could be interesting in a tactical sense

Jesus christ all these retards saying the latest version of Rome 2 is worse than rome 1.

Are you that much of a moronic edgelord? Seriously? Yes, release Rome 2 was utter shit, but after the patches and fixes its incredibly deeper and more complex than Rome 1, while also having some of the longest Vanilla TW battles in the entire series.

A fucking battle in rome 1 could last 30 actual fucking seconds once the ranks collided.

Did you even play the game or did you just autoresolve everything? Maybe you're mixing the game with europa universalis.

And, yes, of course Attila is an improved Rome 2. Anyone also arguing against that is downright fucking mentally challenged.

Shogun 2 >>> FoTS > Empire = Med 2 > Napoleon > RoTS > Rome 2 > Rome > Atilla

Haven't played Warhammer but heard it's great, then again I also heard Atilla was great and it was boring wank

Napoelon>Attila>Medieval 2> Rome 2> empire
haven't played others

Gonna play Shogun2 with a friend tonight for the first time, any advices?

Rome 2 is a skin of vanilla Shogun 2 with more units

rome 2 time period > attila time period

As someone who played Warhammer for free and has been playing the series since the first game, no it is not. The magic system feels very tacked on in a lot of ways and they streamlined the game even more than Rome 2. It is by no means a bad game since the battles can be fun at times in MP but it is not worth $60 for 4 factions. If you do get it I recommend waiting until the game is actually fleshed out and DLC is on sale for dirt cheap.

You can't finish off routing units in multiplayer.

Rome 2 and Attila suck and you suck if you think they're good.

Shogun 2 is bae.

I disagree. While yes, Warhammer only has 4 factions vanilla, those 4 have a significant amount of differences between them, more so than any other TW game. And while I agree that the DLC is overpriced, I wouldn't say that the actual quality of it is poor.
Regardless, if is unsure you should wait for a sale.

You seem emotionally invested in Rome 2. What happened?

Rome 2 (with mods) is unironically the best in the series

only a true autist would believe otherwise

I hope you don't mean Radious.

Without mods:
Shogun 2>Rome>Medieval 2>Napoleon>Medieval 1>Empire>Rome 2

Modded:
Medieval 2>Rome>everything else

Friendly reminder that if you play Total War games unmodded you are doing it wrong

My friend (whose opinion I trust) told me it's an okay Warhammer game but a shitty Total War game.

no that's a meme

mostly just small AI tweaks, graphics, textures etc.

Good tier: Shogun2, Rome, Attila
Mid tier to good tier: napoopan, medieval, shogun
bad tier to mid tier: medieval 2
bad tier: warhammer, empire

Good. Anyone who defends that shitty mod belongs on r/TotalWar

Assuming no mods and stuff:

Warhammer > Attila > Shogun 2 > Rome > Medieval 2 > Medieval 1 > Rome 2 > Shogun > Napoleon > Empire

does leddit defend radious mods?
i thought it was just the kids on steam

R1>M2>S2>M1>R2>S1>E>N>A

wont play warhammer

what is the next game?

>warhammer above anything that isn't empire
>medieval 2 above medieval

Warhammer is great though. The main thing that's wrong with it are the shitty sieges, but it's not like good sieges is something TW is known for to begin with.

M2 vs M1 is a close thing for me and I haven't played either of them in a long time, but I've spent a lot more time on 2.

just looked it up

gamespot.com/articles/next-historical-total-war-game-will-go-to-a-new-er/1100-6445528/

what could it be

>china
>us civil war

Pros
>Easily has the most faction diversity out of any TW
>Interesting campaign map

Cons
>Fantasyshit
>Battles come down to micromanaging your Lords/Heros for morale boost and to spam abilities
>Arcadey as fuck
>City/Empire management is as simple as ever
>Fantasyshit

Some of them do. But many of them dislike it and go back to believing that DarthMod is the be all end all of TW mods even for Shogun 2.

>china
Oh great another ching chong arr factions arr same.
>us civil war
I can't wait to stand in a line for hours and take pot shots at the guys on the other side of the field.

1. M2TW: (better CAI better BAI overall better improvement on RTW which must be what CA must aim for)
2. RTW: (better combat mechanics than M2TW, religion means something in BI)
3. Attila TW: (most enjoyable of all warscape TW I've played, improves everything R2TW did wrong)
4. R2TW: main campaign is unplayable without mods. Ceaser in Gaul and Emperor are ok. Battle is subpar at best. The most arcade-y feeling of all I've played (specially with all those special abilities that makes you inevitably upgrade your units, no more historical correct Romn armies, expect. fullstacks of praetorians/extraordinarii

NTW: Played it for just 5 minutes and proceed to ask for a refund. Gameplay was excruciating.

S2TW: Never played it but I've heard pretty good things of it. Setting simply doesn't atttact me.

Haven't played S1TW, M1TW, ETW and Warhammer.

>I haven't played Warhammer but I saw the DLC price so I'm gonna say its shit!

this is going to be it

>Total War: Renaissance

Shogun 2 > Warhammer > M2 > rome

Warring States TW PLSSSS CA

Medieval II>Medieval II>Medieval II>Medieval II>shogun II>EE

Warhammer > Shogun 2
I didn't play the others or didn't like them enough to play them for a significant period of time.

US civil war wouldn't work, most yurop who aren't poltards aren't interested in it
China seems much more possible

It could be my nostalgia speaking, but M2 battle system was a complete mess
cavalry charges were completely fucked, unit placement, movement and collision too

And Warhammer is a watered down skin of Attila, more simple than rome2, placed in a rule of cool edgy universe made to appeal to fat teenagers

>far east setting

pls no

it'll be a shit version of shogun 2

>no unit diversity: the game

pls not again

everything after med2 has been trash

>And Warhammer is a watered down skin of Attila
Confirmed for not having played Warhammer.

>>Fantasyshit
>>Battles come down to micromanaging your Lords/Heros for morale boost and to spam abilities
>>Arcadey as fuck
I see nothing wrong with this.

True on both accounts. MTW was much tighter than M2 for both campaign and battle map and Warhammer plays like a watered down Attila + magic and flying units.

>mfw CA returns to clone armies
>mfw they call racist everyone who can't tell the difference between soldiers
>mfw they say they wanted to capture the "emocional" side of battle with they new thousand line voice acting
>mfw is all about "Ching Chong Beijing Jackie Chan"

UNIT

COLLISION

>Troy: Total War
I'd play it.


Anything set before the Roman Empire would be interesting to be honest, though if you go back too far the whole Total War style gameplay wouldn't be very fitting.

It might be sci-fi.

>I see nothing wrong with this.

>best music/campaign + perfect comfyness
Napoleon
>best mods
Medieval 2
>most complex
Attila
>shit for weebs
shogun
>wasted potential, should have been set in world state 30-50 years earlier
empire

...

>CA go on a spout of gun based games
>Once they're done with that implement a decent line of sight system and finally fix ambush battles

Why lads why?

Warhammer > Rome > Shogun 2 > Empire > Rome 2 > Medieval > Shogun >>>> Medieval 2

They're all extremely close other than Medieval 2, Honestly can't stand it, Campaign and Battles both. Least it has a ton of mods.

Never played Napoleon.

have you played FotS?

>warhammer 1

Like I said they're very close, even thought about giving Rome the number 1 spot but the updated mechanics simply put it ahead for me.

Plus I'm a sucker for fantasy settings.

>my favorite: napoleon tw
>magnum opus: shogun 2 fots
>fuck you, i like it: empire tw
>what the fuck were they thinking?!: rome 2
>oh, it was this but worse...: attila tw
>old but gold: medieval 2

and i wanted to play warhammer but tfw no piracy

for

magnum opus is MTW

Rome 1 and Medieval 2 are the only good Total War games.

Rome 1 > Medieval 2 > Shogun 2 > Warhammer > Napoleon > Rome 2 > Empire

Haven't played Shogun 1 or Medieval 1 enough to rate them.

>magnum opus
>warscape engine

I think the arcadey approach the TW Warhammer is a positive thing. Warhammer has always been a game about war, so they made sure that the game focused on your doing open battle and unleashing monstrous beasts and battle it out like the tabletop wargame. Even the things you can build in your towns are mainly unit/upgrade/hero focused. You're fighting a fucking war here on multiple fronts, you don't have time to micromanage to the point where you're wondering whether your people have toilets to fucking shit on.

I'm with this user