I'm about to buy EUIV, what expansions should I buy? what other games of this type exist...

I'm about to buy EUIV, what expansions should I buy? what other games of this type exist? Europa Universalis thread I guess

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Art of War, Common Sense and Rights of Man

thanks, do you reccomend me a nation to start with? and what do those expansions add?

Pirate all the expansions, it's easy.

Start with Portugal, Spain, England or France I guess.

do you reccomend me games like Crusader Kings 2 or Victoria 2? I've heard they play the same like EU

Pirate the game, pirate everything up to the Cossacks, buy any random game on steam for the same price in order for the money to go to a much more deserving developer. Shit even EA would be a better choice.

Pirate them honestly
I bought art of war and it's just a couple extra buttons added to the UI for a ridiculous sum of money (back then at least) and I doubt the others are much better.

I guess it's either pirate it, or buy it on sale like right now with only must have expansions, thanks for the info

don't give the kikes at paradox your shekels
pirate the game, pirate all the dlc, and then uninstall

Pirate absolutely everything.

Europa Universalis is the "baseline" Paradox franchise, which means that it has the most basic, generalist gameplay that serves as a cast for all their othe franchises which focus on their own specific aspects.

For Crusader Kings that's simulating landed nobility of the Middle Ages as well as their lines of succession and inheritance, for Victoria it's industrial production, global trade, and demographics.

tl;dr at the base level they all play the same but specialize in specific features, with EU specializing on nothing at all

Start as Brandenburg reform in to Prussia then become GroßGermanium.

>pirating glorious paradox masterpieces of hard work
Fucking paedophile scum.

ok, I guess EU it's the first game that I should play if I want to play the others, I'll buy the main expansions and game, I wont waste my shekels on useless shit

Yes you be a good boy and buy the game now.

None
Just pirate the game, try it and probably uninstall afer two or three plays, realising how little there is to actually do and how brain-dead the AI is

>2016
>buying paradox games
lmao

>Supporting the company in their run for turning into the biggest jew around.
I remember times when Paradox was releasing expansions that seriously changed the game and rebalanced a LOT of it, changing even more.
Now it's like single expansion of old being divided into 10 smaller packages, all sold for price of a full game.

how do you even pirate dlc? is it safe?

Don't bother, just pirate it.

And if you want to play decent Paradox game, stay the fuck out from CK2, EU4 and HoI4. The company literally ended, taken over by greed.

Pirate the game.
In the end, it sucks and Paradox has no idea of quality control.
All they do is release shitty DLCs that always break things and ask for more shekels.

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>russian
I've used it and its safe :^)
/gsg/ itself is shit since its just shitposters drowning out any actual discussion with liquor memes.

And what could be unsafe in that?

Besides, most of DLCs barely change anything in the game at all. Even if you focus on the important ones, you just add few files to the base game and rewrite another few, changing basic elements of UI and some rules you could mod yourself.
Not counting new fortress system and management of colonies, you could mod everything else the DLCs add yourself by changing few lines in different files. That's how fucking bad they are at "expanding" the game.

How interesting...

Just download the most seeded one on pirate bay you daft twat. That's what I did and I only ever play it multiplayer.

colony management ruined the game forever for me.

After the shitshow that was Stellaris, I realized spending any money on Paradox games was the most retarded thing ever.

What management? just send a colonist, park 1k troops on the province, and fuck off to do whatever else. Once a colonial nation forms just ignore it and raise its tarifs to 50% through events.

If you care about having it on Steam for muh achievements or whatever, then just buy the base game. Pirate all the DLC. Someone already posted a link in here. It is completely safe and works no problem with Steam

Fuck paying those Paradox prices for essential features.

>didn't realise it after CK2
>didn't realise it after EU4
>didn't realise it after HoI4
You might have brain problems. Oh who the fuck am I kidding. May? You're a full blown retard.

>buying Paradox games
Stellaris was AWFUL. No mid game at all. None. You explore and then there's nothing to do for three hours until an Ancient Evil Awakens and kills everything and maybe you survive, then game over.

And then they have the nerve to start shitting out DLC.

so, should I buy Victoria and EU3 instead? or they are just less shitter?
I just want a game where you control an empire and invade America and rape qt aztecs

Honestly starting with EU4 is a good idea since once you branch out you will realize how fucking boring and bland EU4 is. Wargames are the logical conclusion of grand strategy

Then play Victoria 2. One of their last decent games before they decided to go full DLC.

pirate the game with all expansions and once you get bored of vanilla, buy the game to access mods and use the pirated expansions, thats what I did, only sane option

ok, what are the must have expansions? and what about EU3?

Victoria has retarded economy and the railroading prevents it from being any real fun in regards to interesting history building nor is the combat any good.
EU3 looks like absolute garbage and the levels of border gore are ubearable by any human being, even with the heaviest mods like MEIOU.

Just don't bother with paradox games. They're all trash. Maybe try out HoI3 or Darkest Hour. That's it.

Why is it that grand strategy games tend to attract the most autists

Because only psychologically defective individuals will play with 1s and 0s for 14 hours straight trying to form a digital kingdom

buy them all

bump

Just buy every expansion, game's better with all of it. It's cheap right now, so if you don't buy that shit you'll have to wait a long time for a second chance.

Long time being like Christmas

just buy all of it.

That's the thing, colonial nations suck

Play For The Glory then.
Or EU3 with at least HTTT expansion.

Either way, EU4 is shit and there is absolutely zero thrill in fighting primitive nations - you can rape then just by being there.

But that's wrong.

It's a pretty good game desu. More interesting than Alcohol Industries Simulator.

Colonial nations give you a retarded amount of dosh.

Why would british europe be a fucking colonial nation?

Because my colonies bring in more trade and tariffs than my continental empire does through tax and production.

Also because the colonies are there.
>why would a continental France be a fucking colonial nation
>why would a continental Spain be a fucking colonial nation

British Europe is not a colonial nation though?

which game is that

EU4 with map graphic mods

Truely drang nach Ost.

I thought you were arguing about colonies sucking to keep.
They don't suck militarily either. If I had just the British isles and had a independant france backing my colonies, I'd be completely fucked.

>dude forts should cost an arm and a leg because we dont want to change the AI xd

Unite Evropa under the true faith.

Oh yeah, France needs to die no matter what. And I'm a third guy entering this thread fyi.

>turn off lucky nations
>france explodes against a burgundy/austria/england alliance every game

Anyone know how to just get the dlc without registering on the russian site? why would I want to register to pirate.

>turn on lucky nations
>turks and France win

really makes you think

buy it. It's really fucking cheap right now.

lmao

>software house keeps releasing completely optional DLCs and free patches three years after the release of the game
>m-muh jews
Flawless logic.

Eu4 with meiou and taxes overhaul mod.
They will soon release 2.0 version with PoPs

Uhm, how can you play with those maps? They are...depressing.

Are there any EU4 XPs that I need or are good? They all seem to have pretty bad reviews

how much does it slow down the game?

These

Stop spreading this meme

I stopped using it because I got tired of it. But it has a charm.

God some of you are poor. Is it an American thing or some shit? I know you fags have it bad, but still.

>2nd

>legitimately own some paradox games
>can't get the Mods for them because I got permabanned from their forums just because I called them a bunch of kikes

It's kinda of gay to break rules and then cry about something you were aware of doing while doing it

I paid for the game and I am entitled to the Mods just like everyone else regardless of whether I called a faggy Swede a kike. How does that modify the contract of the game I bought?

You did not pay for mods you retard, you're not entitled to jack

>Germany and HRE exist
How the fuck?

He's retarded but Paradox are still jews.

I think that most of this stuff is overpriced but EU4 is addicting af so I've dished out loads of cash they rightfully deserved. Game development is a fair deal more expensive in the Nordic countries due to the taxes, welfare and all. Feels good man.

The game gets boring desu

Whoever at paradox invented strait crossings should be hanged