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What went wrong?

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It ended

No multiplayer.

No sequel

The DLC? Nothing really.

The entire game? The sequel is a Japanese only MMO and Capcom will never give us a proper sequel, and we will never get to experience the original vision with giants, migration travel and fighting shit on the moon.

wished it were longer.

Nothing? It's a western style JRPG, the only JRPG formula that actually works.

It turns into a grind fest with damage sponge enemies after the Gregori battle and then it goes into generic "we need to kill god" JRPG at the end

It's actually the most fun after Grigori, what the fuck user?

The one thing I have to complain about is the start since it's so slow and not appealing to new players at all

become* god

Though it's not actually god and it's quite the fucking curse.

this

no Moon level, there arent multiple races, all the roads lead to Gran Soren

I liked being able to play with my friends companion characters though. The game would have been pretty easy with another player helping out.

>time wasting tentacle monster is "fun"
>hydra that on hit kills you if you jump on it's face wrong is "fun"
>baby Grigori that dies in one hit is "fun"
>fighting monsters you've fought 100 times before is "fun

nothing

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I shilled this game so hard that I burned out playing it within a week.

My only condolence is that I got other people to enjoy it.

That MMO looks like shit anyway

Too much cut content

THIS

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Which part of the game did you enjoy then, user?

The combat and pawn training were the most interesting ones prior to killing Grigori, so giving you more of it and letting you fight previous easy monsters in a new light is a great addition

It was an unpolished gem really. It had a shit tone of problems, but I played the fuck out of it. It needs a improved sequel, but Capcom being the massive fuck ups that they are will never deliver.

Also Cassardis was comfy as fuck especially with the music in the background.

youtube.com/watch?v=01hlTBxM6cA

>beholders
>hydras
>not fun

>complaining about the hydra
what the fuck, how can anyone be so bad

RNG
Offline MMO

I pretty much enjoy everything after that shitty escort quest and before Grigori. I also really like the fact that you can change Vocations any time you want so you can experiment

Shit combat

>game doesn't tell you where the roads lead
>game doesn't tell you what goblins are weak to
>game doesn't tell you which items are masterworks

My problem with the Hydra is that I'm the only one doing shit since you only fight one before hand for about a minute, so my pawns never realized that they need to climb onto the head

Alright, so just generally exploring the world then?

That's fair, there's little to no exploration in post-game

>Not tapping the "interact" key while reaching the other platform to activate scene

user...

No multiple saves on PC. The fuck man.

>game doesn't tell you the hunting habits of wolves

Well yeah, that was just the point of the webm, to show that comical splat onto the ground

Also it's arguably faster this way, as you don't have to also skip the little cutscene

>tfw the man hating bandit leader fell in love with my male character

Wasn't really expecting that to happen.

Pawns
Minmaxing
Not enough content, very few large monsters
No good motivation for exploring or going far from main city
Chest farming
Resists leading to 0 damage
Climbing system in general
Weak final boss
Story
Purification

She immediately sent her feminists to kill me for some reason and we had to lay waste to them all.

>lack of enemy variety
>lack of location variety
>pointless crafting system
>having to open your inventory to use healing item
This is one of those games that would have been improved a lot with further sequels because it's got a great foundation, a shame we probably will never get one

Same thing happened to me. I think I was like halfway through going through their base/checkpoint when they all just attacked me.

They are easily tricked by simply putting on a dress. They're high level SJWs and won't judge if you have a beard and are a giant, if you just clearly show that you identify yourself as a pretty lady (by wearing a dress) there shouldn't be any issues

It's been a while, but if you are a guy you have to crossdress otherwise they will be openly hostile to you.

Though I always kill the shit out of her and her little fellow cunts. Usually with High Maelstrom which wrecks their shit in.

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as if that will make Capcom make a proper sequel

>Capcom will interpret the PC success as a desire for the MMO to be localized

>they will never make a sequel

>tfw you get cucked by your pawn at the end

My character was a manly swordsman while my pawn was a loli witch. I'm not sure how to feel about her fucking my waifu in my body.

it was great if only as a "cuck your liege" simulator

Only one save and limited replayability
Empty open world with static enemy placements
Not enough monster variety
Too few skills to equip at a time
No build options
Can outlevel enemies way too hard
Too little control over pawn AI
No multiplayer

And it was still a good game.

Other than lack of content my main problems all relate to the pawn system.

I like the idea of training your pawn by having them witness enemy weaknesses, but the whole inclination system is awful. Inclinations change based on your actions, which commands you give to your pawns, and the inclinations of other pawns in your party, but even knowing all of this you still end up having to chug inclination potions on a regular basis to get the right ones. The game also doesn't give enough detail on what the inclinations do. Guardian sounds like it would be a good idea, but all it does is make pawns act like retards. The search system in the rift doesn't let you filter by inclination so it makes finding something not retarded a pain.

The commands you can give to your pawn should have had more depth than go come help, for situations like needing an elemental buff so you can damage a physical immune enemy but your pawn deciding that help means heal or spellscreen.

Acquisition of rift crystals being based on your pawn getting rented just makes it harder and harder to get them the older the game gets.

Shit you just reminded me about something I had forgotten about. Someone made a bet that it wouldn't even sell 200k copies on PC. It's at nearly 500k on Steam.

You mean this guy? To be fair the Duke wasn't even interested in her.

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Combat
World design
Quest design
AI

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no kill yourself

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Itsuno was too much ambitious so they cut some corners and it shows. Also too easy. The added hard mode made the game even easier, ironically. BBI was amazingly good but also ruined the balance of the game, all the vanilla gears became utterly obsolete and useless. Only 3 equipable skills per weapon. Can't use items on the fly.

it is

it's the exact same game

They gave me a perfect wife option with my pawn and I can't even romance her.

It really isn't

My only gripes are the lack of enemy variety along with the small map size. Also Bitterblack, while very fun and challenging, is ultimately pointless since by the time you farm the best gear most monsters will be extremely trivial save for the Condemned Goreclops or Daimon 2.0. If we do get a sequel, I wouldn't another dungeon that serves a purpose like Bitterblack, but I'd want it to lead to an even tougher dungeon or area.

It's for your own good

But user, Mercedes is the perfect wife. Your pawn is more like a traveling fuck buddy

Don't get me wrong. Mercedes is best waifu, I just wish I could've seen how that went.

Ashe pls...

I use the dinput8.DLL hooks mod to drop my stats. I know it doesn't fix the problem but it sure as hell makes fighting large monsters more fun.

Is this game playable with keyboard/mouse, or am I better off using a controller? Also, I assume there's a thief/rogue/archery option, is that any fun? Are there locks to open or pockets to pick?

>The one thing I have to complain about is the start since it's so slow and not appealing to new players at all

I thought the start was just the right pace for newcomers.

You can be anything from a machinegun Robin Hood to a crazy wizard that shoots lasers from your bow, or you could be a regular ass dagger/bow rogue, and they're all fun classes. No lockpicking but you have more options while climbing big monsters including special attacks.

Can't comment on controls cause I'm a PS3 pleb.

I don't know how it plays on kb/m because I opted to play with controller. The archery based classes are great. here's no lock picking but you can learn a skill that steals items from enemies.

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There are 4 classes that can use a bow. I've only ever used a controller but I've heard others say mouse and keyboard work well and that it is especially good for aiming bows. One of the bow classes called strider gets the ability to steal, but I've never heard anyone say they got anything useful from it.

I thought it was great the first time through but it drags on in NG+, especially when you just want to get to Gran Soren.

You can get about 10 million gold in roughly 45 minutes at the start of the game with the thief skill, but it requires going into BBI to a specific enemy and not dying to everything that will kill you by sneezing at your level.

Is that the Guts preset face turned black? The nose looks like it.

Still have yet to successfully do that part of the quest.

Which enemy?

wait what
this can happen?

You make your way to the midnight helix with the first chained up condemned gore cyclops. You'll need to take out the first two undead wizards so they stop spamming levin and ingle at you, but even at low levels a few volleys of explosive arrows should do it. If you don't go too high up the steps, you shouldn't aggro the gargoyle or the other wizards. After that, repeatedly steal from the CGC. You'll steal blue iron bucklers, fangs, and femurs which sell for at least 18k each, if I remember correctly. Also a chance to steal level 2 and 3 novelties and level 3 gears which you can keep or sell. If you purify the gears and sell those, some sell for over 100k. You can steal up to 4 items at a time. Steal everything, then leave the room and reenter.

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Nice, thanks user!

It didn't have into free
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While your there, get the void key. You can now open the locked door in the duskmoon tower where you first meet barroch. Run through the next room until you reach the gutter of misery, then head straight up the stairs on your left to the first safe room inside BBI. Here, you can find a moonbeam gem, which can open the doors in duskmoon tower. Check the wiki, and open the door that gives you the ring of perseverance, which will double DP point gains and make you level your vocations twice as fast.

On every new character, I always head into BBI for the ring at level 7 or 8, and usually head out around level 14 or 15 from using explosive barrels on skellingtons and throwing the skeleton mages over ledges. Besides, a lot of the chests will have useful gear.

A friend just bought me this and I never played it. What's a good choice for class and body types also any tips you can give will be helpful

If you and any of your pawns are male, as long as you interact with her while wearing a dress she isn't hostile to you. I think once you get her badge you can dress normally around her, but like any NPC if you shower her with enough gifts ( in her case skulls) she falls for you.

Overall it's just fun to watch a hardcore man hating lesbo fall for a male character. Though I just kill her and her bandits upon meeting them pretty much every new game afterwards,

This is good advice, thanks. Never thought about getting the ring early, but it makes a lot of sense.

Its super helpful for twinking out pawns, especially sorc pawns. Nothing like getting them rank 9 spells by level 25 or so.

>Taller character have more stamina, but regen slower, short characters have less stamina but regen faster
>Body weight affects your maximum carry weight
>Taller characters also won't get drenched in water as often as shorter characters, who can get drenched by puddles
>Fighter is a good choice for the first game, start out with more strength and defense and health, less stamina and magick defense
>You can perfect block by blocking as the enemy attacks, knocking them off guard
>Strider is another good choice, ranged attacks with the bow are good for the early game
>Daggers attack fast, and you can double jump to reach areas easier
>Striders also have a hidden +50% climb speed buff
>Mage is ok, but is best left to pawns
>Only useful if you are going sorc later for augments and some spells
>Save your rusted weapons, don't sell them
>Rusted weapons, when upgraded to 3 stars or higher, grants torpor (slow), making some large bosses much easier to climb without being thrown off
>Gold weapons, when upgraded to 3 stars or more, inflict silence, which can make some enemies, even bosses, unable to attack

>Be sure to carry curatives and stamina curatives
>When you get to Gran Soren, you can buy potent greenwarish and large musnrooms from the apothecary next to the armor merchant
>You can also buy empty bottles from her. If you take the empty bottles to a healing spring, you can bottle the water. A bottle of healing spring water heals for about the same as a potent greenwarish, but heals the whole party. Put them on your pawns, and your pawns will keep the party healed. The downside is that they are heavy.
>Be careful what you let pawns carry, as they will use consumables. Pawns will stand in water, get drenched, use a panacea to cure it, and get drenched again because they are still in the water, and repeat until they run out of items.
>Always carry bottles of oil to refill your lantern
>Being drenched makes you take mre damage from ice and electric, and reduces fire damage
>Being tarred makes you take more fire damage and catch on fire
>You can throw skulls at enemies to curse them
>You can break the armor on a cyclops by thowing foreign knives
>You can knock a cyclops helmet off with rocks or skulls

>Some moves grant i frames, they can be useful to avoid otherwise unavoidable damage
>The well at the start of the game has some tough enemies in a tight area, be well equipped before you go down there
>After you fight the hydra there will be a quest to find Quina in the witchwood. Do it, it fails if you get to Gran Soren, and you'll lose access to a whole other area, a questline, a waifu, and a portcrystal
>Portcrystals are items you find in the game that let you set custom fast travel points around the world
>On your way to the witchwood, you'll encounter bandits. you'll likely be in the low teens, some of the bandits are around level 20 - 30 and can be hard, since they come at you 3 - 8 at a time. You can just run past them
>Wolves hunt in packs
>Generally, permanently enchanted weapons are subpar. The way defense works is that it is subtractive. You need to break an enemies defense number with your damage number to start doing damage, and perma-enchanted weapons split your damage
>Don't worry about minmaxing. At end game with end game gear, the difference in damage stats between a perfectly minmaxed character and a worst case leveled one is only about 12%, gear and augments more than make up for it

It has spiders.

When can you dodge roll as an assassin?

>pack of brown waifus

>After you fight the hydra, there will be a purple quest marker, this is for the DLC. Head to the Cassardis docks at night to talk to Olra, she will take you to Bitter Black Isle. It'll be too tough for you, but Olra can change your vocation to advanced and hybrid vocations, otherwise you wouldn't be able to until Gran Soren. Only downside is that you can't buy advanced and hybrid weapons from merchants until Gran Soren, unless you head into BBI to the second room and meet Barroch, the weapon/armor/vendor merchant for the DLC
>You can give items to pawns to hold to keep your own weight down
>A good all purpose augment to get is sinew, increases your carry weight, rank 5 fighter
>You can send items to your bank by killing rented pawns. You can put items that you want stored on rented pawns, then toss them over a cliff or into the water. They will die and return to the rift, and the items will go to your storage. This does not work on your main pawn.

Level up strider, and buy the skill. All base skills/upgrades like combos, double jump, levitate, dodge roll, etc. that you buy on the basic vocations are automatically applied to advanced and hybrid vocations of the same "tree".

His only fuck up is that his player isn't also a brown waifu

>An elf is fine too

Your character's necks always stick too far foward during run animations. Even if you set posture to max it still looks retarded.

Other than that maybe could have used a better story or lack thereof.

>make butch lesbian warrior pawn to counteract sexy lesbian arisen
>no one wants her, go through entire story without a single summon
>start again, make old man fighter with burt reynolds dark beard + greying hair combo
>immediately get loads of RC from everyone summoning him

Female pawns, not even once

>Making a butch female Pawn

That's where you fucked up. Slut it up.

I made the mistake of playing this almost immediately after I'd finished Witcher 3 Hearts of Stone.

The graphics were such a step back that it was actually impossible for me to play it for any length of time. Eventually ended up just losing interest and dropping it.

I might give it another spin now, though. It's been some time.