Can we finally admit that Final Fantasy XIII was a good game?
FFXIII REVIEWS HIGHER THEN FFXV
IGN
FF13 89
FF15 82
GameSpot
FF13 85
FF15 80
Game Informer
FF13 93
FF15 85
Quick, someone tell Bazztek
XIII-2 and XIII-3 were better than XIII yet were rated lower
I think lower means better.
No
I'm not even excited for FF15 but IGN is absolute dog shite.
You're a fucking moron for even taking looking at their opinion.
Its a hindsight score that sequels get hurt by despite improving.
13-2 is better than 13 in every way, but by being related to 13 which drew alot of hate right after launch, it hurt its review scores.
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Nah, 13-2 and LR were small improvements to the gameplay and massive downgrades in production, characters, world design, world building, soundtrack, and general aesthetics.
so basically reviews are pointless and biased
not that we didn't already know that
Also that terrible fucking voice acting present in LR
The problem is the story though, they somehow managed to make it even worse than XIII, caius an bhuni were top tier antagonists though
>not that we didn't already know that
'We' tend to scream 'look at the reviews faggots' if it fits with our agenda and 'we' shit at reviews for being payed for and playground for system wars when it doesn't.
Are FF XIII graphics that good?
Also
>decent score
>8.5
how can people not realise the reason its getting worse scores is because its a game about a couple of dudes going on a road trip
if it were about a coupla divas going on a shopping spree it'd get 10's
Aesthetically, I'd say it stomps FFXV in shear grandeur and design alone. I'm at Chapter 4 in FFXV and there's not a single environment I looked at and thought "wow" whereas by 8 hours in to FF13 I'd thought that numerous times
It has great backgrounds and character models.
Why wasn't X-2 given 10/10s then? Or FFXIII?
Because the gameplay made me want to kill myself.
83 reviews vs 24
just wait more time
Different people reviewed each game.
Less shit? Sure. That doesn't mean it wasn't shit.
do you see what year it is? do you see what year those games came out?
What's the point of giving individual scores to categories if you aren't going to use them to get an average score? It's almost like nothing actually matters except for some shmuck writer's bias and uninformed opinion that no one actuall gives a fuck about
>Gamespot went 8/10
It's ogre.
Gamespot were always the shills tilting the balance. If it didn't get a 10/10 here it's not getting one.
Never, fuck you
FF13 was pretty good tbqhwyfam. I liked how the party was a bunch of assholes to each other and only together out of necessity, not because they were buddies.
Just remember, everyone: reviews only count when they're negative (otherwise they're paid for), and anything below a 9 is a crushing failure.
Also, stop trying to push the "XIII is good now" maymay. It's just as bad as it was a month ago.
Because averaging them makes no sense. The game could have a 10/10 story and 4/10 in everything else and averaging would bump up those scores unjustly.
>I liked how the party was a bunch of assholes to each other
If we're talking about just enjoying the party banter and all the insanity, nothing beats the Drakengard series, at least for me.
XV is having more positive reviews than negative ones unlike 13
FF14 as well
XIII level design is pure hallways though.
XV's dungoens level design is god-tier.
IGN and Gamespot are strangely some of the lowest scores FFXV got.
Maybe, just maybe, FF13 really is a better game.
I've never played an FF game. What do?
play 6 and don't worry about the rest
Famitsu was clearly paid off because this shit isn't worth even a 20/40
Start at the beginning and work yourself upward on the mainline single player games.
It must have been quite the sum, because Famitsu only gives a perfect score to a handful of games.
Also, just in, Polygon gave it a 9/10
CNN was paying tens of thousands to Hillary and getting her approval before they published stories about her. If that kind of shit is going on then Square tossing some gil at review sites doesn't surprise me at all.
Get out of here Sup Forums. Why arent you happy that a game you seemingly havent even played is getting good receptions? What the downside to that? PC preasants like you have too much free time.
>mfw the imminent wave of contrarians that are going to say ff13 was a good game when everyone was shitting on it nonstop since release
Famitsu always gives absurdly high scores to Final Fantasy games no matter the game's quality. This isn't new.
Destructoid
FF13 40
FF15 90
VideoGamer
FF13 70
FF15 80
If you're gonna be biased, then at least hide it better than that.
Don't they do that for almost everything that isn't outright garbage?
>Can we finally admit that Final Fantasy XIII was a good game?
I tried giving FFXIII the benefit of the doubt for a while after I beat it. Eventually I realized that it's not worth defending.
FFXV pretty much has everything Sup Forums wanted in FFXIII (For 8 or 9 chapters), yet this board still shitposts about it.
The Final Fantasy community is the video game community of Star Wars.
Polygon is SJW trash that suck at playing vidya. Why would you even bother referencing them?
It's hard to say whether or not they're just as bad or worse than kotaku.
>imminent
That's been happening ever since they fixed the PC port.
Well just look at the critic count, Senpai.
Start anywhere you want, and don't listen to what other people have to say.
"My favorite Final Fantasy is the best one, while the one I liked the least is the worst one. Any Final Fantasy game that doesn't match my expectations of what makes a good FF, is a bad one."
That's a pretty good shop, assuming it even is.
Whats the famitsu score
Who fucking cares about baka gaijin lol
40/40
SE definitely paid for that lmao
>dlc let you fight against SE CEO
HAHAHAHA what a fucking trainwreck
Can we just admit that both games are shit and have inflated review scores?
>Dedicate 10 years to make the perfect FF game
>It ends up being worse than FF13
JUST
That's cool as fuck.
>literally saving FF from within the game
Can't wait for the Tabata DLC
No need to admit that, we all know it. FFX was the last overall good FF game, the rest are just ok or niche.
Why are people here so obsessed with arbitrary review scores?
I thought they didn't matter?
They do matter only if they support your opinion.
Is this your first day on Sup Forums?
Do you faggots actually give a fuck about reviews, or just use them to shitpost? Most of them are cucks and shills anyway, almost nobody has the balls to bad mouth a game as big as XV, it would cost them revenue and other benefits.
People really aren't giving a crap they just want to get the most (You)'s and bark the loudest.
1. They aren't always reviewed by the same person on both games
2. As everyone says a billion times, each game is graded on its own and can't be compared to other games as better or worse based on review score alone
3. These are high, above-average scores as much as you don't want it to be true
4. 13 is not as bad as you want to think it is
that's actually kind of cool
There is no good JRPG period. Not even baiting. It's bizarre seeing people praise JRPG's and forgive all their sins that always gets pointed out in western games.
I have yet to encounter a JRPG that does not have an incredibly cheesy, simple and edgy storyline, bad gameplay, beyond cringeworthy voice acting and horrendous character design aimed towards the bottom of the barrel scum of the earth social outcasts.
guys
GUYS
NUMBERS
DECIMALS
LET'S EXTRAPOLATE THOSE SUBJECTIVE DECIMALS AS IF PROFESSIONALS HAVE CAREFULLY USED A DETAILED SCALE TO DISTINGUISH AN 8.0 FROM AN 8.1
IT TOTALLY MEANS A DIFFERENCE IN QUALITY
THOSE PEOPLE KNOW HOW THEY GIVE SCORES
LIKE
>IT'S MEDIOCRE I GUESS - 8/10
THIS IS NOT A POINTLESS FUCKING WASTE OF TIME AT ALL, LET US SPEND THE ENTIRE MONTH GATHERING AND STUDYING NUMBERS GIVEN BY PSEUDO BLOGGERS
It was shit and so is XV.
>13 is not as bad as you want to think it is
It's worse. XIII couldnt be worse if they tried.
I know a guy who enjoyed it. Has basically no critical sense about anything and only plays mobas, cs and rocket league.
Why is final fantasy so terrible sequel to sequel and Dragon Quest consistently good?
People on this board really have lost the concept of fun.
Oh yeah no forget the whole stupidity of hyperbole and actually bad games
youre right. 13 is an absolute buggy shitty unredeemable mess.
i mean its just like superman 64, dr jekyl and mr hyde, ride to hell etc amirite?
Grow up. You've never played an actual bad game in your life
>10 years
They try to "redefine" the genre in each iteration. To be fair they've been doing that since FFIV onwards, and those are arguably the best sequence of games up until FFX, FFXII onwards, FF games were vastly different and generated mixed reactions, dunno.
See, this could be cool in the right game.
DQ keeps things simple and stay quite the same while FF changes its formula game to game usually with a similar structure and themes but, since this past decade not so much.
Too much talk about bromance, it's like that's the only good thing about the game. People are just buying a bromance simulator+cooking mama+fishing simulator and with a gameplay when you are god just by pressing a button (avoiding and parrying everything) and QTE gameplay shit. Nice way to spend your money and support gaming industry. If you can't see all of this you are just a sheep honestly
>gameplay 7.5
>great
butthurt the post.
sazh has to be the most real deal nigga in any game. He literary is the reason too play 13.
best character in a ff game.
XIII isn't shit for technical reasons.
It's a failure on design and direction. Superman64 was a mess on all levels, but two wrongs doesn't make a right, if anything that isn't worse than Sups64 can't be criticized for the piece of shit it is, than please, be my guest to praise every game that isn't ET. XIII was a fucking mess and nothing will change that.
Because Dragon Quest isn't trying to be innovative with every release. It has spinoffs that allow the series to try something new, but the main games are always pretty consistent and focus on the player having fun above all else.
Really makes u think huh?