He bought a non-HDR 4K display

>He bought a non-HDR 4K display

>He thinks 4K makes a difference


You already got your HDR-enabled 4K display don't you Sup Forums? I mean.. you're not a poorfag right?

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My family and I all pitched in for a new 4K tv but this was before the HDR meme took off.

JUST.

I'm colorblind and I don't give a rat's ass about HDR. It's another useless fluff tv monitor producers want you to obsess over. 4k however is a blessing when you got a monitor for work and browsing. Vidya at 4k is a nice bonus, but my recent rather strong GPU can only handle that at 30 fps for most newer games, so I play at 1080p anyway.

i picked up one of the cheap LG 4K monitors without HDR. it works well enough and i have an xbox one S to watch 4k blu-rays. i sit fairly close half the time so i do get a nice benefit out of the 4k by itself.

Do HDR Blu Rays look washed out on your monitor? I have a few HDR Demo videos and playing them on an SDR monitor through Pot Player / MPC gives them a very washed out look.

4K on a sub-4K screen act as a supersampling method so yeah, there IS a difference.

>You already got your HDR-enabled 4K display don't you Sup Forums? I mean.. you're not a poorfag right?
Nope. Still rockin my 73" dlp. Ill upgrade after Xbox Scorpio comes out. Hopefully the bulb lasts until then.

they just look like sharper versions of regular blu-rays. i don't have any color issues.

i just don't get the HDR benefits.

>tfw finally getting expanded color gamut after all these years

Interesting. It must be some setting in my video players or a codec issue causing my problem.

>tfw you have the money for a HDR display but because you have brown eyes you'll never be able to percieve the extended color range

HDR on SDR will clip everything outside of its range unless you compress it first.

>mfw people who have absolutely no understanding of gamuts, bit depth, and color spaces try and tell me HDR is some kind of meme

>trying to explain that HDR is objectively better color and contrast and isn't some meme like 3D

>they say what we have now is "good enough" and there is never any reason to upgrade ever

I wish people would realize just how outdated sRGB / Rec.709 is.

What's wrong with brown eyes?

>brown eyes cant see colors
Stop this meme

HDR is a significantly more noticeable than 4k meme retard

wake me up when we can 4k 165 hz, until then i'll stay at 1440p.

Brown eyes can't fully experience hdr. It's just how eyes works.

My TV is 720p and my monitor 1080p lcd.

Come at me.

So where are all the HDR computer monitors? I know they have professional monitors that do a DCI-P3 color space, but I want a full HDR consumer monitor, and I don't think there has even been any announced yet, but HDR TVs are everywhere now. What gives?

Probably never ever since PCs STILL can't play 4K/HDR Blu-rays.

>sony wants to push 4k
>they make 4k tvs
>thats not working well
>uhh, HDR!
>they make HDR tvs

>somehow a coincidence coming from a company that literally controls the electronics AND video game industry

>Having a HDTV
So the grass IS greener on the other side

260x300 resolution

come at me

4k HDR 144Hz IPS or no buy

HDR blew my mind when I saw a sun on screen.

My only problem is that I react to the sun on screen like I do IRL by closing my eyes cause its so damn bright.

My only computer is an Elitebook 8440p. With no GPU. Kill me.

...

what did he mean by this

>no GPU
So, a command line interface?

>teammates throws flashbang like a retard
>get headache from full-white monitor

I just bought a 50 inch 1080p TV because they became cheap.
I'd been rocking a 720p 32" for the past 7 years.

SONY

ALWAYS

WINS

got a samsung ks8000 baby (european version aka 9000 in usa)

Current screens are no good for HDR, HDR is suppose to go up to 10,000 nits paired with a good OLED, the best OLED on the market does 600 nits

It's way too early to adopt, wait a few more years

I'm not a stupid casual, so I got a 1440p 144hz display instead.

>Really want a new TV
>The cheapest good 4k HDR OLED TV I can find is $2700 USD, way too expensive
>It's also a shitty smart TV

Kill me

But Microsoft is pushing HDR and 4k too.

The greatly increased contrast and luminance are really what make HDR so great. Before I saw it in person I thought it was just going to look saturated or something but it really is hard to explain how 'naturally bright' it can be without washing out the colors and still retaining extremely deep black levels. It really is cool leap forward in display tech.

>i just don't get the HDR benefits.
more colors

buying a 4k tv for games is stupid, get a monitor they're better in every way

you misread, i know it won't have more colors. i mean the colors don't get fucked up

I only read the second part.

benefit of hdr = more colors.

>i just don't get the HDR benefits

>Curved

Can someone explain the difference between 8 bit HDR and HDR10?

Seeing some 8 bit sets come down recently that interest me a lot

>turn bloom off
>free HDR on my 1998 CRT
Thanks Sony!

Honestly, the Samsung Quantum Dot TVs are almost as good as the OLED for like half the price. The only thing they lack is the flawless black levels, but they still produce really great blacks due to their new backlighting tech. I have one and it's a really great TV.

You're retarded, kys

i have a TV with HDR, but its not as good as some other TVs. not that i give a fuck

>4K
If you dont know what 4k looks like in comparison to 1080 then there is literally no reason to get 4k, and considering the performance cost its far far better to stick with 1080. I honestly dont see a GTX 1070/80 becoming irrelevant in the next 5 to 10 years if you stick with 1080p

8 bit hdr is meme shit. hdr10 is what pc monitors had years ago but possibly worse.

I don't care about curved either way, it's just the cheapest 4k HDR OLED I can find.

He's not entirely wrong. You can get the same results on old PC monitors using sweetfx/enb/reshade to better adjust levels and colors.

the "HDR ON/OFF" displays in screenshots and in person are a joke compared to mods that pc gamers have had forever

I think HDR by definition must be 10bit. Any display that is 8 bit probably isn't going to give you anything more than a standard sRGB color space.

>buying a new technology early
I prefer not to throw my money down the drain to get the worst implementation of something.
When OLED display gets cheaper and they manage to bring response times down more, and get the DP standard is updated to send 10-bit, 4K HDR images at 144Hz down a cable I know it will be ready.
Especially now most content isn't HDR capable yet.

There is literally nothing wrong with curved TVs

"HDR" has many meanings. HDR in the modern sense, talking about TVs, refers to HDR10 which is a new higher standard for televisions.

>When OLED display gets cheaper
You'll be waiting forever.

I know that feel bro

>tfw no HDR

>when people say higher resolutions dont make a difference
If that was true, then why do we need anything more than 800x600?

All panels are 8bit, because standard RGB uses a range of 0-255( 256 positions aka 2^8) per color when displaying it, giving you the now standard 16,7M colors you can get on your standard LCD. 10 bit is the same shit but uses a 10bit array per color, so you get 2^10 per color. It doesn't really matter as most monitors can't achieve this color precision and just slightly deviate from the standard color palette.

So much retardation in one post

The problem is that you're still working within a regular sRGB color space that the monitor / video card is outputting. True HDR is an increased color space (BT.2020) that no computer monitor can currently output.

But what about my cinematic experience?

>You'll be waiting forever.
I don't expect them to go under 800/1000$, but right now they are stupidly expensive and very experimental in nature. There is room for improvement

>thinks over saturating colors is HDR
I hate these comparisons, real HDR is something that you have to see on a HDR capable screen to understand

4k is literally a meme

>le master race pc in le 4k 30fps

I didn't say he was right retard.

>The problem is that you're still working within a regular sRGB color space that the monitor
And that's fine. The difference isn't that drastic especially with how poorly implemented HDR is at the moment.

>True HDR is an increased color space (BT.2020) that no computer monitor can currently output.
computer monitors have had the standard for a long time and output more colors than I think any television.

>mfw all Nvidia cards have supported 10 bit HDR for a long time but they lock it away and force you to buy a $5000 Quatro card in order to use it

Who blue-eye master race that can trace their mutation to a single ancestor here

>computer monitors have had the standard for a long time and output more colors than I think any television.
that's not true.
Even my shiny new IPS screen has 8-bit color depth. Graphic cards can actually output 10 bit, HDR content, but no current conventional monitor can display it. Especially since getting HDR on a classic LCD screen involves some trickery and increasing your response time.
You are probably confusing yourself with true 8-bit and 7-bit dithered LCD screen, a typical solution for old high performance LCD screens.

>over saturating certain colors with an enb
>ITS REAL HDR GUIZ

Sony is losing their market share hard against LG and SAMSUNG

>You can get the same results on old PC monitors using sweetfx/enb/reshade to better adjust levels and colors.

lol you wish

Let's take a step back

Console gaming =
* large screen, so you can play with your GF or BF
* Beautiful HDR
* 4K

PC gaming =
* bad posture, hunched over a tiny ant sized screen "oh wow 24 inches!!"
* washed out colors
* stuck at 1440p

PC monitors are 10bit and have been for years. Shitty LCDs have 10bits

>the salt

basically 10bit offers you 64 shades between every 2 colors in 8bit. It sounds like alot, but really the only place you will notice the difference are large solid 2color transitions. It's like having 4k on a smartfone, you can tell the difference if you're autistic enough but it's not worth the extra.

>especially with how poorly implemented HDR is at the moment.
HDR has definitely not been pushed to its full potential yet, but it does look noticeably better than a game running in SDR with saturated colors. Especially when it comes to peak brightness and contrast.

There's nothing inherently wrong with curved screens however it unnecessarily limits the field of view for anyone not situated at the ideal points in your viewing space.

So if you get a curved tv you need to have a narrower seating setup or people viewing from the sides will get glare, etc:

Overall there's no real point in getting curved outside of trying to impress people. Wait for flexible screens to come out.

10bit almost completely eliminates color banding. I'd say that's a pretty significant upgrade. You don't have to be an autismo to see horrible banding on movies / video games.

The potential isn't that outstanding was my original point but you are right too.

And now people are buying HDR LED displays before the OLED meme takes off.

There's always going to be something new in 1-2 years so just get what you want.

PC monitors have been true 10bit for a while, no TV's can do 10bit due to HDMI limitation

I bought the 55" KS8000 the other day. .

I'm just waiting for it to ship

>tfw had a 2009 hp laptop with a quadro and an 1920x1200 IPS monitor
>it blew away everything away but my old CRT in terms of picture quality

I wish I jurryrigged the monitor toy PC instead of selling it.

You won't be disappointed, it's probably the best non OLED TV currently on the market. I recommend downloading some HDR sample videos and playing them through a thumb drive so you can see what it's truly capable of. Some of these sample videos are really amazing.

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>buying a 4k display when 8k is just around the corner

glorius HDR4k input lag

How can I ever be sure if my tv settings are optimized? It's been bothering me since I got the thing a few weeks ago. Is there a definitive guide?

I have one of the newer HDR Bravias btw

Yeah I've read nothing but good things about the TV.

Can't wait to hook it up to my PS4 Pro and PC. Shits going to be great.

>shitty smart TV

What do you have against smart TV's dumbass?

the tv has to be smart because you aren't.

>Falling for the 4K and HDR meme when there's fuck all support
I have one purely because my old TV broke and I was upgrading anyway. While 4K+HDR is gorgeous, it's not worth the money at all. I mean maybe 5 films, and a few TV shows is the extent of your range, and even then there's shit like Mad Max and The Martian which are 2K uprendered. And on top of that, gaming has barely adopted it properly with a handful of truly HDR based games, and without a monster PC rig 4K is unviable at any decent graphics setting/framerate anyway on top of that. I'll support 4K HDR in 3 years from now when it's mainstream, same goes with VR.

Probably the same people that say their 750ti is good enough tbqh