Hey you, so why did you chose this major?

>hey you, so why did you chose this major?
>i chose software engineering because i am a gamer.

>just stopped going to classes and doing work over a month ago
>Anxiety and depression getting to the point where my dreams tell me not to try and to kill myself
>It's getting harder to differentiate real life from my dreams
>Videogames are all that drown them out
I really just want to make enough to live in a shitty apartment by myself. Are there any jobs, no matter how shitty, I could get with no degree?

Get any job. Work hard like a retard no matter how much it kills your soul. Get promoted to a mid management position at said job. Do the minimum to get by. Done. I've been doing it for over 10 years now.

I bet you type fast, go be a typist in a hospital.

you sit at the computer all day have headphones on so people don't bother you and you just type, it's pretty meditative really

the pay is probably shitty though

Can I ask where it is you work?

>Are there any jobs, no matter how shitty, I could get with no degree?

I do, I'll look into that. Thanks user. Looks like starting pay 13-15$ an hour in my area which isn't horrible

>go to class for like 5 months and become an EMT
>sit around all day at a station and play vidya because of low call volume
>make money doing it

Don't work fast food. Fast food will just make you even more cynical and bitter.

Retail can do you good, depending on where you go to. Shopping malls are usually the best, since people who go there aren't usually in a hurry or get flustered easy.

Best advice I can give.

Is it a college course? How much was it? I always thought that would take atleast 4 years of schooling

>tfw want to do something creative so start writing but know that it cant pay bills
>trying to get into trade program to learn a skill
>will have to work my ass off and will probably lose motivation to write

You can finish your degree with depression user, as long as you can manage a couple of weeks of being functional a year do all your work then.

>Getting Creative Writing major
>Want to work at Blizzard
>Everyone around me in the class is borderline brain dead

I don't mean to sound haughty, but holy shit you have to be careful with writing.

>user why did you pick liberal arts?

>literally can't give an answer

A retail chain. I worked my way up to an assistant store manager position in 3 years by having a brain and working my ass off. I'm not going to spout bullshit like anyone can do it because if you're stupid or don't have people skills you fucking won't. If you have even a small amount of intelligence and can manage to have a conversation with another human being without sperging the fuck out you can go far with hard work. If you can't do those things then autism bux and food stamps might be the only way.

How much do you make a year?

I can manage that, thanks user.

~$38k per year

>just finished my 4-year graphic design course
>passed everything, got a few credits and now we're gonna graduate
>mfw i literally did every single fucking assignment last minute

we did it lads. we fucking did it.

I was in college for a liberal arts degree but dropped that shit
If I'm ever going to make it in a creative field, it'll be my portfolio and not a useless community college degree
I think what I want to do would work best as a comic, but I don't know any artists (and didn't meet any in college) who want to do a comic

Just go to a tech school and get some skills so you can be a sys admin or a network admin. Every tiny shitty company needs some kind of IT guy.

>friend of my mom had a graphic design degree and had a good job for 20 years
>they fired her because its a flooded market now
Good luck user.

Arts and most science/engineer careers can be done in a timely manner without studying too much if you are intelligent. I'm in Software engineering and I don't know why so many people that study and do shit all day doesn't pass most subjects.
Congrats on it user.

>Not doing Computer Science AKA Copy and Paste from Stack Overflow: The Experience

>every store owner complains how there are no trained workers

>How much would you pay?
>125% of minimum wage

>Filthy Hapa
Suck an exhaust pipe

Unless the technology that you are required to use in your classes it's so fucking niche that your only resources are the shitty documentation and the source code of the libraries.

learn a skilled trade

>125% of minimum wage
Try living in a right to work state. You're lucky to find federal minimum wage part time work. $7.25 per hour so your boss can get a bonus for how much money they saved the company this year.

Get in a Film Studies group if you're ever going to a liberal arts school. Not some bitchy community college one full of 'actors', but a proper group of people who actually want to work on movies.

I'm in one right now and everyone here is chill as fuck. Never drop a major after doing just the 101/201 of a class. More often than not those are filled with overflow people and half of them evaporate in the next level of classes.

This.
Fuck the higher education meme.
Get paid to learn a trade and take comfort in knowing you'll always be in demand.

I started off in a film program at a university actually. I near graduate who was quite serious about film that I was friends with basically told me it was a joke and due to that and some other reasons I lost all motivation.

Yeah, he's a fucking dickhead then. I'm in one and a good %85 of the students are dedicated to their work, and the ones who aren't keep their heads down.

Except for one.

I dont live in america

Here the way it works is "You have a college degree? We *have* to pay you more. So we can't afford to hire you. Oh, you did a two year course in [trade]? Well, I know you are the only applicant we got in three years, is 500 bucks a month enough for you (with unpaid overtime)?"

So we end up with 'computer experts' with 1000 applicants every week, getting paid three times the national average for changing ink in the printers

It's so bizzare

I honestly believe him. I don't think anyone in that program went anywhere.

>get in film course
>no friends because autist
>miss all deadlines because nobody told me what they were, forcing me to repeat years
>fail every class that needs a project, because no friends to ask to cooperate with
>too socially anxious to go to any class smaller than 20 people, and fail those too

How many actors were there? Most everyone in this group isn't in it to act. In fact, I think my room mate is the only male actor here, and he's already been in stuff. I don't see how anyone can get out and start acting without having done it before.

Quite a few visual effects/make up people though. Some pretty good ones, even.

I initially wanted to use coding I learned in school to make games on the side of actual programming.

Then data structures and Java ruined coding for me, and I'm neither any good at it or enjoy it.

There are unironically people who get into the computer technology field because they wanna "make video games", and are currently tens of thousands in debt from student loans and working some entry-level job that doesn't require any degree at all.

It's actually quite amazing how dumb the human race is, and yet we've gotten so far.

>graphic design course
how's unemployment treatin' ya?

There weren't really any actors as far as I know.

That's actual ok though

>go to university and get a bs in bio
>end up with a job at an investment bank
>mostly because they saw I took tons of math courses

Suck it med school fags

Huh. Weird. As far as I know everyone has a plan here. Maybe we just haven't hit the point of crippling anxiety yet.

A guy I worked at a gas station with told me he went to college to make video games.
When I asked him what games he played he only named stuff like CoD. He also sounded like he never even thought about the concept of programming before.
He ended up knocking up his gf and got promoted to manager. I think he hates his life

>>i chose software engineering because i am a gamer.

not a bad reason
i pretty much did the same
i was the gamer so i'd spent endless hours on a computer, meanwhile picked up some programming and graphics design, found out i enjoy it a lot and BAM, now i'm a wealthy man and i like my job

100% this. The tech building where im studying has like a 50:50 men/women ratio now in graphic design. That is almost unreal considering a few years ago even 5 girls would be a miracle. Its beyond flooded now. Glad im doing something with high demand.

Is this a Rakata ?

besides the military it's pretty much your only other option if you dont know anybody and failed out of college

and the military isnt worth it unless you're escaping poverty

EMT is like the junior version of a Paramedic I think, they do their classes out of the Engineering building where I am and they never last more than a semester.

well i've been sitting comfortably working at my local grocery store part time since high school so for now i'm doing ok.

but my plan for the future is apply for jobs online until i hook a winner, while doing small freelance jobs on the side to build my portfolio.

worst case scenario, i could work in sales with my customer service and management roles experience.

>tl:dr: *nervous laughter intensifies*

>do 1 year of programming in college then drop out because fuck tuition + book fees
>work as a temp summer student in the IT department at some retail packaging company
>do this for 2 summers in a row, lie and say I'm still working on my degree
>apply for a position in the retail packaging art department to work on vector graphics / graphic design despite having 0 experience
>never have even opened a program like Photoshop in my life
>they actually give me an interview because of my experience at the company
>lie in the interview and tell them I'm familiar with manipulating vector graphics and I'm good with databasing
>they actually fall for it and I'm now on the road for a career that requires 4+ years of college as a dropout
>the actual work is ez as fuck and I pick it up within my first month or so

The way to get hired anywhere is to lie. It's not like they're going to do full background checks on what school you've gone to and what you've done , just lie your ass off and make it as convincing as possible and you'll make it. College is for fucking losers, and if you're in a liberal arts course you do nothing but come out dumber and poorer than when you went in.

A lot of places actually require copies of transcripts in order to hire you. So that advice may not be universal.

This. Even high school dropouts end up being promoted to $20+ an hour positions then go back to school eventually and earn even more money.

Doing this right now but it's a bit disheartening to see that virtually all positions require experience, so that usually means being the help desk guy and taking it up the ass from everyone.

>Get promoted to a mid management position at said job
Fot a 0,5 an hour pay raise, woo hoo!

>and they never last more than a semester.
Why's that?

Man I always wanted to join a military branch but I was brought to the US illegally as a 2 year old.

Maybe the French Foreign Legion will take me in if Trump goes through with what he said.

i served as a radar technician for about 5 years including training, would not recommend it

It's exactly that kind of frustration that makes bestsellers, user

>miss all deadlines because nobody told me what they were, forcing me to repeat years
That's on you for not checking the syllabus, buddy.

>I'm an ideas guy

>want to make games
>become a programmer

You will never actually design games

You will have to program lighting engines, physics and network code with zero communication between the other departments

You need to be an artist if you want to do art, level and game design, aka the actual game

>gamer

that's me xD

I found this when I looked up radar technician

>art
l o l

i make art and crap and cant make video games because i know nothing with code and im poor so i have to work my ass off to pay for shit

lifes not fair

I know a doc. who did it for that exact reason. Mey him at my university when he was teaching there, partied with him a lot. He left, moved to Cambridge and worked as a dev for Planet Coaster. He's a really nice and passionate guy who sincerely loves video games.

do you like videogames
try finding a job in a videogame store like fucking gamestop or game or whatever, even if you're a complete spergo-tier autist you'll probably learn how to handle people and do fine because of videogames alone
just remember to quit at your 30's if you never reached middle-management, start considering other options (still including retail) if you did, getting some kind of additional courses/studies and whatnot while on it would be a bonus when/if that ever happened

No one who enters big game companies will get any creative freedom. If you learn programming, you can at least make games on your free time. If you just study graphics or game design you won't even get to do that.

I picked liberal arts because I'm stupid and liberal arts are easy and my parents wanted me to get a degree. I'm going to graduate, get no job and move somewhere far away from them to get a shitty job, but pretend I'm doing well for myself for their sake.

I chose East Asian studies as my major because I already learned higher than N1 level Japanese from playing eroge.

>tfw only really decent at math.
>tfw don't know what I want to be when I grow up.
>tfw have to take a major in a trade skill to be viable in the job market, and double major if I actually want to develop what I am decent at.

Customer Service for Call Center. Fake enthusiasm for the interview and pad resume with buzzwords (typing/communication skills/flexibility/motivated). If you're there for a while, you may even get taken off phones and left to do emails/chat support. Shitty job as it's mentally tough but usually doesn't require a degree due to high turnover. Some places in America I've heard even offer benefits so could be a lasting thing.

Do science

>software engineering

Thats not what you think means

It's computer science that deals with programming and even then there are classes outside the major

I chose English major. Now I'm working as a translator and have enough money to buy video games.

Feels good man.

Yeah, keep thinking that

Pic related, game made by programmers

Unity exists, UE4 exists, even Game maker pro exists, you dont need to be a programmer to make indie games

You'll just be like Ulillia, 15 years later still cant finish an engine. Sad!

Bullshit

Everyone with a highschool degree can speak english, good fucking luck becoming a translator for them

you don't need to speak english to translate it

He is probably not American, most the countries that do require English in school usually brain dump it after college anyway.

People who go into software for gaming are the biggest retards ive ever met. They don't ever learn anything from school, but they still brag about being in STEM. I rather work with an Electrical engineer on a project because atleast they are competent in math.

This is why fucking indians are taking over. They actually learn and understand software engineering concepts.

I am the only white person at my job. EVERYONE is fucking indian.

I did this and had a full on panic attack when I got on the phones. Careful if you're vulnerable to that kinda shit

Fucking algorithm analysis isn't copy and paste from stack overflow. Neither is compilers. I hate doing all this math induction bullshit, and I want to die.

I live in a third world country where people can barely use high school English. So translators are needed here.

I'm also studying Japanese during weekends cause I want to play weeb shits and translate manga into my own language. It's hard as fuck though, fuck kanji seriously.

Don't worry m8, I did my 6 month dissertation in 4 weeks
Somehow still got a good grade

>Want to get into programming
>Don't like it

Can't wait for Trump to get into office. Fuck the Poo in the Loos for taking all the software jobs

Learn Gamemaker. Shit's easy as fuck and plenty of games have found success with it like Hotline Miami, Spelunky, and Undertale.

>This is why fucking indians are taking over. They actually learn and understand software engineering concepts.
lol

>went into cs because I didnt knew what to do after highschool
>I'm now in the first year of a master I don't like
>too late to do something else now

>didnt find out that you disliked a major until you've gone 4 years in to it

user...

>is majoring in creative writing
>wants to work at a place as braindead as Blizzard
>has the gall to call everyone ELSE retaded
WEW

You dont understand how annoying it is. I was the last white person my job hired. 6 years ago. Every year i help interview kids straight out of college, and they are the biggest fucking idiots i ever met. How do you go 4 years in college and not retain anything. Then they come to my job asking for 100K.

Every year i ask, why we even bother. Turns out there is some requirement that we need to prove to the US government that we tried hiring american citizens. After a few months, we are legally allowed to go hire Indians and Chinese.

The thing is, its not even cheaper, They work remotely from india for a year, and if they are good, we pay them to move to america, and give them a full salary. Because, Americans are retarded at Software Engineering.

>want to learn programming and shit.
>too lazy and not motivated enough to look up shit on the internet to get started learning it

I know, my fault. The thing is it was piss easy. When you succeed without doing nothing you just dont question yourself.

If this is true, can you tell me what stands out to you as a junior programmer (straight out of college, no commercial experience)

Because the class is only a semester long. Paramedic school takes 2 years.

>(you)

You should do something you love. I spent $100k CAD on a chemical engineering degree before the oil crash and pretty much have a useless degree. I pretty much get pushed around by my old friends who dropped out of high school, who are now fancy managers.