This is the best thing about Undertale

This is the best thing about Undertale.


I was not impressed by the "ECKS DEE" tier writing.

I was not impressed by the shitty ass writing by a furry who- oh sorry did I mention that already?

I was not a fan of the gay ass pacifist ending even if it did make me tear up a little.

I was not a fan of any of the autistic characters. Even Sans.


But the final battle with Sans evokes everything about why violence is bad. Not by shoving it down your throat but by showing you those consequences. It's a Hotline Miami 2, and MGSV.

There seems to be a trend in vidya recently where they convey the consequences, the disappointment, and pointlessness of violence itself. It's beautiful and poetic.

you agree, right you fucking faggots?

Grinding was dumb though
>no robot fight
>no asgore fight
fuuuuuuuuuck you toby, way to shit the bed.

No, the Sans fight is the best part of the game because it's challenging and beating it creates a huge sense of accomplishment the first time you do so, especially the way Sans' taunting and smug face cause you to absolutely hate him over your attempts.

OP here. That to. I'm trying to beat him without items currently. Once I do that i'm gonna use a speedhack to make it harder.

I enjoyed the music and combat, a few one-off background NPCs had cute designs

Didn't really give a shit about the story or any of that except a few chuckles out of some one-off lines

If the whole game had been like the sans boss fight it would have been way more fun.

People who make pacifist shit never had been in a fight, they just get bullied a lot and take it

Post it.

>"challening"

It's easier than Cirno on Normal mode.

This post is the edgiest shit I've witnessed in weeks.

Only killed Undyne, it actually made the Dinosaur character tolerable.
She was hiding the truth about Asgore from me, I was hiding the truth about killing her waifu from her.

wait seriously?
I never finished genocide, is sans really this easy?

It's kinda ironic considering Sans is trying to make you stop playing by being as overly difficult as possible, but I think that was also one of Toby's intentions.

Someone like Sans could never understand how anyone can be so determined despite the challenge and lack of reward.

It's pretty great for that.

Undyne the Undying really gets me too. Imagine watching someone you care about over a screen being brutally murdered over and over so that they could give you a chance.

It's pretty heartbreaking, to me, and I love it for that.

Yes, he is.
Neo-Sup Forums is pathetic

>2015 before the retardation took hold of this game
>shill game to my friends
>one gets stuck on pic related, quits, and watches a lets play of the rest of the game on youtube

fucking casuals

>shill game to friend
>watches a lets play and has the ending and everything spoiled for him

god damnit that defeats the point of a game like this. I'm supposed to use you as a fucking surrogate to feel what I felt playing this game one more time you fucking asshole, REEEEEEEEEE

> you just want to leave
> stupid monsters want to trap you
> they are sentient but keep attacking you for no reason
> to not hurt them you have to take their abuse until they stop
No, just no!
Killing everyone who attacks you is the right choice.

Kill yourself

You have been visited by the skeleton of autism. May autism shine upon your life forever.

Wrong.

The best thing about this game isn't the game at all, it's the music, and I love the game. It might be one of my all time favorite OSTs.

Greater Dog's attacks aren't even that hard to dodge. I could understand if it were the dog couple, because that axe attack of theirs is bullshit when you don't know what you're doing.

Can you even dodge the axe attack?

The only reason to stay in the first room in the ruins and grind out 50 frogs is because you wanted to see what would happen.

You have to sneak under it. The timing's tricky. That fight killed me the first couple of times.

What happens if you kill everyone you come across but don't actively go out of your way to murder everyone to get a genocide ending?

Also what happens if you run away from everyone in the game?

also i can beat sans really easy but not Undyne holy fuck I had to cheat at that bitch just to get past her.

you get neutral ending where everyone is like "fuck you"

Sans says you're fucked up, but he won't fight you unless you kill everyone. Even if you kill papyrus he wont do it. All you have to do is spare one person for him to not wreck your shit.

Alphys and Sans hate you but it's the normal ending otherwise

Running away is the same as sparing/not killing

Beating him with items is harder than beating him without items. Healing forces you to go through another turn. All you need to do is get through the intro without taking damage which is easy as fuck.

1) Your gay mate
2) Violence breeds violence, but in the end it has to be this way

so i can get the pacifist ending if I run away from everyone then? I don't have to "figure out" the enemies?

Sorry bud, you can be either Hitler or Jesus. Otherwise you will fuck off.

It's very hard. You have to be right in the middle section where the axes meet to form a heart shape, and both axes move from one side to the other. That's why I can understand quitting the game at that point.

All Greater Dog does for attacking is have Toby jump at you and bark. That friend of the other user is just a fucking casual if he ragequit from that.

>implying the genocide route isn't pic related

I believe Sans tells you the people are depressed because there's no one around fit to become king, and he ends the call by telling you to go to hell. It's pretty ho hum. Getting the most depressing neutral endings requires you to keep key characters alive, like the ending where Papyrus becomes king by democratic vote.

I was absolutely baffled when I realized there is hidden dialogue for ragequitting on sans after a couple of tries and then restarting the game and loading a save where you died fewer times than when you Alt+F4'd. This was TECHNOLOGY I wasn't expecting.

for optional encounters, you're correct, you can just run away. but there are a number of fights you can't run from

You forgot your picture.

>kill all the major characters
>but none of the random encounters
>toby sits on the throne and becomes king by default
>it's one of the better neutral endings

>I secretly hoped Toby would stealthily add in more and more to the Gaster mystery until a big reveal.
>Now know he'll never touch the game again.

It also won't give you the genocide ending.

Go back to your fucking general you fucking loser.

*teleports behind you* get dunked on...... kid..

Flowey was the best thing about Undertale.
I was craving his next appearance ever since I left the ruins and when you do see him again at the end of the game he doesn't disappoint.
Still giving the player the option to spare him after being such a cunt and the embodiment of evil is great, a test to see if the player is truly committed to following through with their morals, if they're willing to go all the way even if they're uncertain of what flowey will do if he remains alive.
Flowey's great, fuck ya'll.

Does anyone know if Bani-chan did more stuff or did that kind of disappear?

>That moment when your friend you're watching play the first time doesn't spare Flowey and thus doesn't get the tipoff on how to get a True Pacifist ending.
>Tell them or don't tell them

>HA HA HA I DID THE JOKE GUYZ XD!
Fuck off to your shithole.

I never did the sans fight after I got the final pacifist ending.
I didn't feel like ruining that world by killing everyone.

>despite losing his brother, even sans admits this is the best ending he could hope for
Undertale is at its best when it's doing timeline shenanigans. Too bad most of that humor drops off past Snowdin.

God dammit, it took me 10 whole minutes to decide what to do that little bastard. This game made me feel things.

I think Flowey eventually tips you off with enough playthroughs, but I never actually checked.

>best ending
>not gay robot ruling the kingdom with his TV show

to add, he calls out people who watch lets-plays for being too weak to do the genocide run themselves and instead watching someone else do it.
He straight up breaks the fourth wall, then breaks through another fourth wall not to talk to the person playing the game and recording themselves but the people watching the person playing the game over youtube.
That's meta as fuck.

>Dystopian Nightmare Metatton

Ohyes.wav

Flowey is a huge faggot and a very lazy villain whose whole gimmick is "I'm soo meta xDD". Sans does everything he does but better and without being an irredemeable cunt. Everyone you spare in Pacifist has some redeeming points, Flowey just doesn't.

Post fishface

He's surprising, not hard though. The joke is that is first attack kinda hits you hard out of nowhere and essentially dooms you to lose to him the first time.

But once you get over it, his fight is literally just about memorization. Fighting Undyne the Undying is harder.

Actually the order of attacks in the Sans fight is never the same.

But they're the same attacks each time, and once you figure out how to dodge them there's no challenge. The Undying's attacks were at least about reflexes and dodging projectiles. If I played Sans a little more I'm sure I could do it without getting hit once, no hyperbole.

>But the final battle with Sans evokes everything about why violence is bad
>He actually felt anything playing this meme game on the "you're bad and should feel bad" run
faggot.

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This is not true. It's at least Sakuya on hard.

Quit being fucking retarded, your hitbox 2hu is significantly smaller and more mobile, with more real estate to work with, and his attacks are harder than Cirno's for sure

The grinding was dumb but it wasn't too bad. It just added an extra 20 minutes or so per section, and there were only like 4 or 5 sections.

cancer.

Not really. It's more of a miss-free first 2 stages on hard, or something like that. It's also easier because retrying the sans fight after you die takes like 5 seconds, whereas in touhou you'd need to replay the whole game if you fuck up on the final boss.

>20 minutes
Nigger if play the game normally and just do murder dance at the end of each section it only adds like 5 minutes.

How come no one talks about the REAL boss of Genocide Mode?

>black lipstick

Unless your skin is ghostly white, don't taint your lips with that thing

Because that boss is accessible in non-genocide mode?

welcome to tumblr/hcancer

To be honest I hate how undertale got shafted in this board. The game's got a really smart plot in a lot of ways, particularly talking about the meta experience of gaming, and how we use these tools which basically make us gods within the game's universe to get whatever response we wanted the most from teh game. The whole concept of determination basically being the ability to save and reload the game is cool as fuck and it's not something that I recall being explored in any game. Also the flowey fight was absolutely ridiculous and fantastic. There are some weird things in the story for sure and the message of "don't defend yourself against things that are trying to kill you" is kind of stupid considering there are things that are trying to kill you, but I guess that's kind of like a gameplay in favor of story concession, you can't really make this game appealing without the monsters trying to kill you.

Overall the main reason people hate this game is because of the fandom, which is a fucking stupid reason to hate on anything.

Undyne is just as much memorization as Sans, since her attacks out of lockdown are all piss easy and the yellow spears are the only actual threatening attack until you know her DDR patterns.

It did a lot better than I was expecting honestly. I was expecting the game to be absolutely shunned for being
>muh SJW

Yeah, there was like a week or 2 of actual discussion before it turned into the standard hate circlejerk.

I can't beat Sans, I just can't, I tried over 100 times, maybe even more, should I quit?

>Overall the main reason people hate this game is because of the fandom

You can say the same about so many games around here.
Final Fantasy 7 in a big way but other popular games get shat on all the time just because of the people who like them rather than any problem with the game.
Sup Forums is hipster as fuck.
Whenever games they like such as Minecraft get popular then we need to start hating them for being popular.

I guess if you weren't new as shit then you'd know this and know to form your own opinions about things rather than rely on Sup Forums to form your opinion.

Undertale has a variety of problems such as pacing, content and shallow gameplay.
It has a variety of strengths such as story, characters and borrowing gameplay elements from unfamiliar genres and presenting them to a new audience.
Just think about it for yourself, who cares what other people think about it or what other people think about what you think about a popular game they don't want you to think about.

if you quit, the smug little shitstain wins
be a man and keep going.

There are 2 lesbians, 1/2 gay dudes (no homo of course bro), an extremely flamboyant robot, a tumblr cat and crocodile, and even the feared word "vegan" in the game. Also one of the lesbians is the opposite of shit female tropes, the other is... dunno what to even call her, I'm talking about how she blogs her minutes.
2 weeks is the biggest testament on how good the game is if you ask me.

B-But... I want him to win, he's saving my friends from my evil alter ego...

>If the whole game had been like the sans boss fight it would have been way more fun.

This.

Alphys isn't a lesbian, she had the hots for Asgore too
She's just desperate

She still likes fish, that's what I meant.

How is it not? What do you mean by "like the sans boss fight"?

That's a good point

WHAT A FAG

>Now that I've done pacifist time for genocide
>It's just a load of shuffling on the spot for ten minutes every area until enemies stop spawning
What a shit alternate play through the game would have been better off if the Undyne and Sans bosses were left as post game content instead of forcing you through that shit for them.

>Everyone you spare in Pacifist has some redeeming points, Flowey just doesn't.

That's what makes him better than them. He isn't some hypocrite trying to be your friend while simultaneously trying to murder you. He's just straight up trying to kill you. There is no redemption and no apologies made. He's the only one I can believe in as a character.

The genocide run is not just about the gameplay. How would the game criticize and ridicule you for just killing everything like all other games if you... weren't just killing everything? The grinding isn't even that much, plus you have the music getting more distorted as you do, so the game changes bit by bit as you do. The bosses also keep it from being boring, they're well spaced. You're probably just hating, but here's my opinion anyway in case you actually want to discuss.

What about Papyrus, since he's the only character in the game that actually can't kill you
if he gets your HP to 1 he just ends the fight and puts you in his shed
He doesn't even lock it

Post lewds.

lurking

What does he say?

I would serve Supreme Dictator Mettaton.
It's even mentioned in his ending that people who disagree with him just up and disappear.

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truly a skelly too pure for this world.

delete

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You went too far you kisama.