How come imageboard dwellers have a boner-hate for TLOU?

How come imageboard dwellers have a boner-hate for TLOU?

The game is great, but imageboard dwellers, not only 4kankers, love to hate this game.

I don't like the cut of your jib.

I love TLOU. I'm sad I don't have a PS4 right now but I'm totally replaying the game before the sequel and somehow I'll get a console. I hope we play as Ellie instead of Joel this time. I loved that, it felt so vulnerable.
But
>no more loli Ellie
why live?

I think it's a great game.

>game

It's cinematic garbage. If I want to see a movie I'll see a movie

Most people who browse Sup Forums have been gaming for decades and enjoy good video games. TLOU and anything neo Naughty Dog make are enjoyed by the lowest common denominator. It's okay to enjoy the games, just realize they are actually garbage and barely video games.

Fine, then see a movie. Some of us appreciate cinematic games. Fuck off with your rigid definition of what a "game" should be.

Why are they garbage?
And what are some examples of great videogames?

>game
Tiptopkek

It doesn't matter that they're "barely video games". They're fictional media and they blur the line between game and movie and if you think there's something inherently wrong with that, then please, share with us.

because

>le movie gaem

the real reason is because the game is popular and won a bunch of awards and is praised as one of the best games ever (which is pretty undeserved)

as far as mo-cap and voice acting goes the game is phenomenal, but it doesn't innovate on gameplay at all.

Sup Forums is all about counter-culture so it's no surprise the game receives tons of hate here

>Most people who browse Sup Forums have been gaming for decades and enjoy good video games

This is the same board that literally had a Katawa Shoujo general on the front page every day for over a year.

Sup Forums loves garbage "videogames" without gameplay, they just have a weird insecurity about western games.

Back to Krautchan. Let me guess, you're ruskie

>Some of us appreciate cinematic games

Those of us who do that, have shit taste. Just saying.

It's a decent, unambitious game at best that everyone treats as an amazing work of art because it had a high budget and good acting. This is going to trigger anyone who appreciates games as games.

If Sup Forums dislikes garbage games, then how come Sup Forums loves Final Fantasy games? There is barely any gameplay in it, and the gameplay that exists is just garbage.

It's nice but pretty underwhelming. We were promised really good survivor AI that wasn't delivered, a lot of the gameplay is pulling and pushing ladders/rafts and walking, and the story stuff was pretty fucking safe and done better by movies a long time ago.

Good game still, great multiplayer aside from losing levels and 'survivors' by losing matches.

>calling this a movie when you play shit like Ace Attorney

To me, the game is overrated and uninteresting. I don't get the Uncharted games either

Final Fantasy has tons of gameplay, and the quality of the gameplay between games varies too wildly to say that the series has either good or bad gameplay. FFXV plays like utter shit, but X-2 played pretty well.

>the majority of Sup Forums are pcfags
>Katawa Shoujo is a pc game
>The Last of Us and Uncharted as PS3 games
Really gets your neurons firing

Protip: Sup Forums automatically hates anything that's popular.

Okay, so how is it shit taste? Let's just take your logic to its conclusion. Actual movies are as cinematic as it gets, and there's no interaction at all with what happens on screen. Do fans of film have the shittiest taste of all, by your standards?

>rigid definition
Games have always been about interactivity not muh cinematic experience. You fuck off, faggot.

>It's cinematic garbage. If I want to see a movie I'll see a movie
Yeah, go "play" your Visual Novels without any gameplay instead.

>Final Fantasy has tons of gameplay
>walk to point A to point B
>stare at menus
>click occasionally
>walk to point A to point B

I'll give you that FF8 had that nice card game that I loved, but FF never had any fucking gameplay.

>but it doesn't innovate on gameplay at all

Exactly. And what is gameplay if not what define how good a game is? What define what is a game or not?

TLOU could have being an amazing TV series, but as a game, it sucks. Is a cheap ass lame stealth game with dumb IA. A good game can be playable with all the cutscenes taken away, a shit game can't.

To much walkie talkie stuff and it tires way to hard to be deep.

>"cinematic" game even when it has less cutscenes compared to any MGS game

So because something was always done a certain way means we should always do it that way? Should video games never have been invented because we already had board games? If you can't justify your position beyond saying, "things shouldn't change, muh purist mindset", then you can fuck off. The Last of Us is simultaneously a film and a game. Deal with it.

>Implying most of Sup Forums has taste

The fact that Overwatch is pretty popular here kinda destroys that notion

Go back to your military FPS before your PS+ subscription runs out.

>Sup Forums is one person
Fucking newfags can't even argue beyond
>t-t-this one anonymous poster this did this thing that contradicts what another anonymous poster did!!!

Game is good. But nothing amazing. It's not a game people will play for years and remember. It's just overhyped meme game. Decent TPS with nice graphics which people hyped to death into being one of the biggest titles ever. You play it once, think "yeah, this game was good" and forget about it in a couple of days.

>This is the same board that literally had a Katawa Shoujo general on the front page every day for over a year.
>Katawa Shoujo general
>general
I was here when that happened. We actually don't want general because it encourages echo chamber and circlejerking which is pretty much counter culture to what we used to have.

The Last of Us would actually be better if you did take the cutscenes away. Or rather, the "walk forward and barely play until the character points out a ladder" sections that make up half the game.

I loved it.

I recently played The Evil Within and the combat and stealth are so inferior to the last of us. Only thing it did better was some boss battles.

TLOU is one of my favourite stories in any game.

>Most people who browse Sup Forums have been gaming for decades
Yeah good one. Most people browsing Sup Forums aren't old enough to drive and spend their time being edgy shits.

The cutscenes aren't the problem. The problem is the fact that you spend half the time slowly walking forward while waiting for some event to occur. There is too much scripted, unskippable story bullshit in-between the sections that are actually enjoyable.

You can skip almost all of this in MGS, and the parts you play offer a lot of freedom and reward creativity. Even the cutscene heavy MGS games are more gamey than the average western AAA games. There's nothing like The End in any of these games.

>it's okay to circlejerk about muh graphics
>it's not okay to circlejerk about muh story

>he loves broken repetitive gameplay, sjw developers and voice actors, poor writing, and overhyped media presences

No, because they are watching movies, and that is what is expected from a movie. In a game it's needed interaction, making choices, and reacting to what is trown at you.

It's a diferent position. In a game i stay with my body bend in the direction of the TV and focused, because I am fucking playing. In a movie, I am with my body laying in the couch, with my hands free, relaxing and watching. A game with cinematic experience is literally, the worse of two worlds, and is made from losers (Stupid writers that can't get into the cinema market) to losers (Dumb clowns that buy an overpriced console/PC and pay 60$ do watch A FUCKING movie).

I like Uncharted but don't care much for Last of Us. The fact it takes itself so seriously even outside of the game like that video that shows how Troy Baker was crying so hard during his motion capture acting and the hype behind it with numale neckbeard redditors talking about it like they finally got something they can show to their parents to prove how serious of an artform video games are, etc. All that just makes me not care for it.

>poor writing
Ahahaha, great meme

NaughtyDog has been bad for a long time. It's not just TLOU. All they make is cinematic shit instead of actual games like they use to

And that's my fucking point. You're demanding that fiction take exactly the forms you're familiar with. "A movie must be a movie. A game must be a game. Anything that overlaps is automatically shit because it's different". That's you. That's how fucking dumb you sound.

How do you define innovation? There's going to be a whole slew of garbage VR games that's going to come out. VR is a pretty major step forward in the medium but I can guarantee you 95% of these VR games is going to be utter shit. Should they be considered good games just because they're innovative?

I've been on here for 11 years and I've been playing vidya for over twice that much.

Hating TLoU is just one of the many memes perpetuated by people on here in order to give off the impression of good taste, all the way discussing stuff like Overwatch, Titanfall 2, and equally trashy games, like TLoU.

I mean, there's fucking people on here who consider fucking Cave Story as one of the greatest action-platformers ever made. That goes to show how little the posters on here actually explore the medium that they're supposed to be experts at.

There's even people on here that play MOBAshit. This place is filled with casuals, and they don't even know it. At least /vr/ is a bit better, but not by much.

People like you are the reason why video games are trash now.

>film
The Last of Us is a flick at best.
Different mediums should stick to doing what they do best, video games being interactivity. """Video games""" like The Last of Us are half baked hybrid abortions that aren't really good films nor good games.

>That one bit right before the hospital where you have to fall into the water, wait for Joel to surface before you're allowed to start swimming, swim to the other side of the room through doors that hate letting you in, climb on pipes, push the wooden platform, drag Ellie over to the other side, and then do this a second time with the extremely slow animation to pick up and move ladders.
Worst part of the entire game and I dreaded getting to it. In fact, any portion where you had to carry something or lift someone over something despite being easily reached just by simply jumping or getting on a a piece of rubble five inches away from you drove me mad. A lot of those swimming sections where you need to move Ellie over on a wooden platform had ledges Joel could have easily just reached up to but he never bothers.

>gameplay is now defined by a player's APM
That'd be fine if you were say a Starcraft player, but I know you're an FPS playing piece of shit so shut the fuck up.

>Most people who browse Sup Forums have been gaming for decades
LMAO Most people here weren't even born before DOOM or Half-Life and never played console classics when they came out.
They are gloating over Nintendo 64, not because they got it when it was the current console generation, but as late 2000s thrift shop leftovers you give to small kids to destroy.
>and enjoy good video games.
Edgy teenagers enjoy trash. No generation is an exception there.
>just realize they are actually garbage and barely video games.
They are more video games than multiplayer trash edgy teenagers on Sup Forums love so much.

Oh, you're one of those people.

Hey fuckwit, you realize that there's more than one kind of game, right? There can be cinematic games like TLoU and gameplay games like Overwatch and guess what - THEY CAN EXIST AT THE SAME TIME. Gaming is not ruined. If you want to play a "good" game, then go find one of a million storyless, FPSs that came out this year alone.

He's right though there are no video games that kino

One of those is multiplayer. The problem is that singleplayer games are being overrun by these cinematic "games".

Both games are shit.

It's a great movie.

I don't know, Shovel Knight, Rocket League, Crypt of the Necrodancer, Binding of Isaac, XCOM 2 and Dying Light were all pretty fun and they came out this gen

Games without gameplay arent games, more like "interactive experiences"


These days people forget games are meant to have rules and meaningful failstates, all in the name of muh wannabe cinema

Amazingly enough Konima struck a good balance, and FromSoft is one of the few devs that still makes actual games

>praising Sup Forums
You fucked up.

What about Max Payne 2?

Kojima*

>have generic strong haunted veteran survivalist
>generic story of losing family to zambies
>finds replacement girl to look after
>walk around aimlessly for several hours occasionally fighting bandits
>winter
>"fuck what do we do now"
>"i have an idea let's write that the girl suddenly becomes rambo the dude suddenly becomes useless and everything must be centered around ellie being the cure"
>"but wouldnt she become one of those mary sues"
>"yes"
>"let's do it"
>ellie becomes an unrealistic badass
>she's the cure to everything

B r a v o

Falls short of MP1 and theres no argument on this earth to suggest otherwise

Bloodborne is actual kino though, especially The Old Hunters

>Yeah good one. Most people browsing Sup Forums aren't old enough to drive and spend their time being edgy shits.
It's funny how every generation of 13-15yos believes to actually have taste.
But they are a blank slates who just stopped imitating their parents, now get filled with trash from external influences like Sup Forums instead.
And it won't be until 28-35 before they actually develop proper taste.
It has been this way since thousands of years.
tl;dr If you're younger than 28, your opinion on vidya is fucking irrelevant.

You didn't actually play the game, or even watch the story, did you? She doesn't cure anything, nor she is a badass. For the brief time you play her, she's worse than Joel in every way.

That's not really what he was suggesting. He was saying that video games that try to be cinematic inevitably fail. He's wrong. The Last of Us is an excellent film and a solid game at the same time. Sup Forums contractions are moronic.

And by the way, people who divide movies up into categories like "flick" and "movie" and "kino" are imbeciles who are too lazy to actually think about films beyond giving them one word descriptors like "flick" or "kino". It's like they think that's a substitute for actual criticism.

>projecting tbis hard
Lol what games do you play

>takes down bandits, zombies, and more zombies
>takes down even more when paired with her muh strong black woman girlfriend
>zombies that instantly kill a tall, tough, grizzled survivor
>they fall apart when they fight a lesbian preteen

>people forget games are meant to have rules and meaningful failstates
Your mistake, for the millionth time, is in thinking that games are "meant" to be anything. A game, or any piece of fiction for that matter, can be whatever its creator wants it to be. If people like what they've made, then it's a success. If not, then they should try something else. The Last of Us is an example of the former.

Different don't actually means good, retarded. If you think a change is good just because it is a change, and not because it's objectively good, than you are just an regular asshole.

Making games into movies is LITERALLY taking away the best thing they havem and trown it in the garbage. You may think that is a brand new amazing thing, but no. It's just moving backwards, moving the games back to the movies.

Worse than this, would be onlt if they made a movie with bad graphics processed by the own player, costing 60 bucks the disc, and that stops everytime asking you to press some button to keep going. That would be awful, thank god they never done anything like it.

How can a post have two such bad opinions? I thought you were a true kino connoisseur but now I see you're just another hothead.

She can kill the zombies and bandits, but she does so less effectively than Joel and is more vulnerable.

They're both multiplayer bruh

Nice meme, user xD

>tfw Warhawk is the purest form of vidya goodness in years and nobody ever talks about it

>How come imageboard dwellers have a boner-hate for TLOU?
Because Imageboards such as this are the only places where people can voice their disagreement with the other 80% and not get downvoted and lose karma or rep or whatever.

Why do you even have to ask? Isn't it obvious?
also what imageboards are there other than #chans?

Played the PS3 version and it felt like such garbage to play it was ridiculous.
Maybe the PS4 version is better, but the original left a really bad impression to the point that I dont want to touch the series ever again.

Also:
If it was a mutation of the cordyceps that made her the cure, couldnt she just bite people to spread the cure?

Cinematic games is the natural evolution of single player games. Games have always had a story, even if it's just a simple concept like rescuing your girlfriend from a gorilla. Music evolved, graphics evolved, story evolved. Imagine a game like Assassin's Creed completely stripped of it's story. It would be boring as shit spending 10 hours following a target and assassinating them with no story in between to give you a motivation to keep doing what you're doing.

>the only good game on PSN I have never bought

For a game that bills itself as a "realistic and cinematic experience", it falls flat on that aspect though.

If it were realistic these fast-moving, super-tough, instantly-kill-you beasts would kill Ellie in a split second. Even Joel wouldn't last very long.

There aren't any. Sup Forumsirgins don't even play videogames.

The best games always have strict rules and challenge, the very root of the word GAME relates to challenge

And you idiots wonder why nobody respects these movie games, they arent even worth PLAYING when all theyre good for is cinematics

Kojima had it figured out before all the rest of thes dregs, make it an actual game first and then worry about cinematics

Don't act dumb.

At least enemies don't cheat in TEW.

>Implying there isn't pressure even on an anonymous imageboard to "fit in"

Have a positive opinion on an unpopular game on Sup Forums and watch everyone and their mother call you a shill

C'mon user it's edgy to hate what everyone else is excited for, get with the picture.

Why the fuck does Sup Forums give a shit about this movie

>Most people who browse Sup Forums have been gaming for decades
Almost everybody here is underage, faggot.

If you are pressued into voicing a non=positive opinion on Sup Forums in the fear of being called a shill you are an incredibly thin skinned faggot.

Maybe it would have been a successful franchise if they threw in some cinematic experience. But no, according to Sup Forums gameplay is the only thing that matters.

TLOU is a cute movie but youre full of shit if you think its a real game

>4kankers
back to the krautchan you yuropoor fuck

Where do you think you're posting right now user?

So? As soon as the thread's dead, it's over. You're back at 0 rep. There's no risk in posting dissent. You can do it as much as you want and never get found out unless you tie enough personal information to it like Barneyfag did.

>But no, according to Sup Forums gameplay is the only thing that matters.
According to nu Sup Forums gameplay is the least important part of a video game.

Oh I'm not, but to imply that an anonymous imageboard is completely free from forces inhibiting expression would be wrong, even if those forces are entirely mental for the person