So is it pretty much universally agreed that this is objectively the greatest game ever made?
I know Sup Forums is well known for being contrarian but even all of Sup Forums seem to love this game, how the fuck did CDP pull this off?
Even if you aren't into RPG's you can't deny that this is pretty much the perfect video game.
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The whole game is well polished but it has no exceptional element. I really can't get into it. Gameplay isn't good enough to carry the shit story, and vice versa.
>objectively the greatest game ever made
there is no such thing
game is pretty fun though
>perfect
Fuck no, it has a boatload of flaws.
Its still great and probably the best looking game I've ever played, but it is far from perfect.
The beginning of the game sucks, then you reach Novigrad and the game is fucking awesome, then you have the big Kaer Morhen battle and you're jizzing your pants about how this is the best game ever.
Then the rest of the main story missions are incredibly boring and shitty.
Despite that, I still love the game. It's so refreshing to have a game that has tons of content in a time when most games can be completed in a day or two.
you witcherfags don't even talk about your game you just jerk each other off saying it's the best game ever.
stop making this thread please
i dunno, i played a bit but i just find it hard to find a reason to keep playing, though i was also told i didn't need to play the earlier games to enjoy it and that was an outright lie. darksouls 3 was more deserving engaging and that game (along with 2) should not have even been made in the first place
I acknowledge this is a good game but every time I see my bf play it there are always minor bugs or details that spoil immersion. Things like npcs/animals flying up in to the air when they hit geometry they don't quite agree with, egregious amounts of clipping in character models during cutscenes (woman with long hair that keeps blowing back and forth through their neck, shoulders, clothing, etc being the most frequent), or Geralt's animations being incorrect for the situation (e.g. him holding his sword while in a boxing stance during a fight initiation). I am actually shocked by how often I've seen bugs, given the game's reputation.
Nope. The combat sucks and the story is badly paced, and it relies too heavily on half-baked boring features like Geralt's detective vision.
The actual best video game ever made is pic related.
Bait.
Nice world, but it's a big shallow puddle like every other open world game these days. Almost a reskin of Asscreed.
Can't speak about Bloodborne, but your critique is dead on for The Witcher.
It's actually pretty boring. The combat is repetitive, the boss fights are a joke, the plot is poorly paced and the voice acting leaves much to desire.
However, the Barren quest was done well, Gwent is actually a fun minigame and the characters are engaging. 7.5/10
>but it has no exceptional element.
Graphics, art direction and storytelling.
Onimusha was better.
it's boring, I refunded
>graphics
That's like critiquing how good a movie is based on what resolution it was filmed in.
>art direction
Explain how it is exceptional in this department.
>storytelling
The story was rather cliche and poorly paced.
>what resolution it was filmed in
Not baiting. Graphics are of little importance to the quality of a game.
It's the best game I've ever played. Followed by BB
TW3 is the ultimate form of the open world meme, in that is actually does it right.
I'd put BB over it though in terms of pure fun
Pretty stupid post.
Bloodborne is a cheaply made game with reused assets, terrible dialogue, and little to no quality control.
This pretty much slaps you in the face within the first 5 minutes of the game when you just start wandering with no direction or purpose and the developers expect you to simply be autistic enough to click every single thing in order to teleport out of the first area.
I'd rather have something like detective vision and opt not to use it(which you can do) than to be thrown into a gameworld with no dialogue whatsoever indicating what you're doing or what you're looking for. They don't put any effort into that shit, because they know retarded faggots like you buy it regardless.
Meanwhile TW3 has a metric fuckton of effort put into it and is an example on all fronts of a developer that cares.
Even IF Bloodborne were half decent as an action game(it really isn't anything special) it's so far from being "best" at anything that you're just showing how underage you are for being this much of a hipster about it.
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>gets btfo
>/threads his own post
Yeah, the user I was responding to got BTFO
>gets btfo by
>realizes it
>/threads his own post in
>is too much of a newfag to know about unique posters count
Has the framework to be just about a 10/10, but the overarching plot is a bit dull. With a few tweaks could be just about GOTYAY.
It has a GOAT soundtrack as well!
Graphics can damn well be an exceptional element in a video game. I believe it has mediocre importance, not little.
God tier. Always brings the feels
Being this retarded. It was my first post in this thread
Why are Polaks so desperate to shill and praise this game to heaven?
Its literally the only game of note that country has made
Reminder CDPR gifted TW2 to Obama
Graphically, it's the best open world game ever made and I don't think it's gonna be topped any time soon. It's gonna be like Crysis - it will last as a benchmark for open-world graphical fidelity for a long time.
The storytelling is a hit-and-miss. The Bloody Baron quest chain is one of the best I have ever played, and certainly up there with the best written sequences in video gaming history. The main plot, however, is kinda shit. Most side quests are far better than the main plot.
The combat is fine and fun, but once you've developed ~5 different strategies to deal with different enemies, it repeats itself for pretty much the entire game.
The detective vision is the biggest detriment of the game and it alone locks the game away from being GOTYAY. A Witcher is like a detective only detecting monsters rather than criminals, so I hoped to have some actual detective work, not just following the glowing red elements.
The voice actress for Ciri is fucking atrocious and it made playing her sections a real PITA.
The aesthetics (armor, very unique but not ludicrous biomes, the difference between houses in Skellige, Velen, and both the cities) are superb. It's the exact opposite of the drab uncreative shit that was in Skyrim. Most of the game feels hand-crafted, even down to just random patches of wood in the middle of nowhere, and that is honestly just amazing.
Great game, not the best. Too many flaws drag it down.
>I'd rather have an instant walkthrough button instead of open ended exploration with great level design
>actually complaining and claiming that you need to be "autistic" in order to proceed from the Hunters Dream, a small area with an obvious way to proceed.
Neo Sup Forums
Yes, it indeed is, and anyone who says otherwise has shit taste.
Call of Juarez
Dead Island
Dying Light
Gears of War Judgement
Hatred
Pankiller
Shadow Warrior 2
This War of Mine
Two Worlds
Vanishing of Ethan Carter
You go on and keep proving what a salty underaged little faggot you are being too young to have played Painkiller and Call of Juarez you stupid cunt.
Was this the one with the trans characters? If so, why is Poland so fucking based?
The entire game is like that.
Small and poorly designed like fuck.
No
You're both being contrarian faggots, W3 and BB are great games
From fans are like 10 years old at best, they literally unironically think Dark Souls is the hardest game ever made because they grew up in the PS3/4 generation and never actually played anything else with Dark Souls being the most obscure because no right thinking individual actually gives a fuck about those turds, so it attracts contrarians with autism.
Personally my favourite singleplayer game of all time.
Ok kid, sure you aren't just trying to make your own post look better?
>Bloodborne is a cheaply made game with reused assets, terrible dialogue, and little to no quality control.
And yet somehow it still looks better than a game from the same company that came out a year later, and also had it's entire OST recorded off a real orchestra (unlike any of the other Souls games, or most games made these days). Doesn't sound cheap to me. There's not much reused assets either, it functions similarly to the Souls games but the assets mostly if not completely unique to Bloodborne alone. There is nothing wrong with the dialogue at all and the game is much less buggy than TW3, that's for damn sure.
>This pretty much slaps you in the face within the first 5 minutes of the game when you just start wandering with no direction or purpose and the developers expect you to simply be autistic enough to click every single thing in order to teleport out of the first area.
There is only one way to go at the start of the game, how is a lack of directions a problem? Do you just break down and refuse to play a game if there's isn't some kind of waypoint marker on a map for you to follow? You also don't have to autistically click on everything you see. Bloodborne does this thing where it actually makes interactable objects stand out and look obvious to the player so we DON'T have to walk around pressing on a detective button half the time we're playing the game, we get to use our own eyes and brains instead of the game pointing everything out to us like we're toddlers. That's called good game design.
>I'd rather have something like detective vision
Yeah that's probably because you're some gen Z faggot who mostly only played shitty and casualized games in your life. Your opinion is worthless.
There's nothing contrarian about what I criticized TW3 for. I like the setting and the world of The Witcher games but they all have glaring flaws.
there are over like 600 game studios in warsaw alone
>d-developers shouldn't HAVE to actually tell you what you're doing
You know, saying something as simple as "find this" isn't the same thing as having an arrow to guide you the entire time into doing it.
You're mad, and also retarded.
Also
>there aren't THAT MANY reused assets that they are reselling to you like last nights dinner
>doesn't sound cheap to me
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Why do you need the guiding? Why not just explore all by your own, or is that too mentally taxing?
>LOOOOLLLLLLLL
oh please do show me the multitude of reused assets in BB. If anything, Dark Souls 3 reused Bloodbornes assets, and even its engine.
Weak bait. Good to know you didn't actually mean any of the stupid shit you said though.
Painkiller is fucking garbage family
Respect to Dying Light though
>Painkiller is fucking garbage family
Get out you fucking newfag
>painkiller is bad
what has the world come to
>shitty arenas with boring enemies and weapons
>Doom 2016 literally does everything it wants to do better
>nevermind it was already outclassed by the original
The only good Painkiller is the Iron Maiden song lmao
Now wheres that one guy who pretends Serious Sam is legit
>So is it pretty much universally agreed that this is objectively the greatest game ever
GTAV? Yup.
the art direction is a mess except for cities
why do you try to trigger me so much, it's a Judas Priest song, and Serious Sam is fun
No, it's just disgustingly overrated and far from perfect.
The amount of praise this game gets made my opinion go from thinking it's simply mediocre and over-hyped into hating it this shit needs to stop
>GTAV
Not even top 3 GTA games how bad is your tastes?
People who play dark souls realise dark souls isn't that hard, it's people who haven't played who think it is the most difficult game eve.
Gonna sum up The Witcher in one sentence
>That game where the sidequests are ten times more engaging than the main quest.
I have finished the game twice yet I somehow hate it for the same reasons.
Except if the most similar game you've ever played is Skyrim you're probably gonna find Dark Souls difficult.
>GTA:SA
>GTA:VC
And... ???
Whenever I see a post saying dark souls is hard, it is either someone who just started playing, someone who gave up or someone who just assumes it's difficult because people say it is, I never see people saying how hard it is if they actually play them.
This is honestly how I feel. The more people hype something up that isn't as good as they make it out to be the more its flaws become apparent to me. Its exactly what happened with the dark knight series and Inception, they're just okay. They're not cinematic masterpieces.
It is pretty hard honestly. There's seriously just some "Dark Souls gene" that you need to have and some people just don't. You have to be willing to take a lot of mental punishment and play the game in whatever way that entry in the series is meant to be played.
nope. best game ever made is ms pacman or tetris.
or even mario 3.
people rarely make games any more. they make choose your own adventure games.
meant to say choose your adventure stories.
>Why do you need the guiding? Why not just explore all by your own, or is that too mentally taxing?
Dumbest shit I've read in a while.
Why add dialogue at all if it doesn't lend context to what you're doing in a game.
Lazy game design is what that is. People weren't even that fucking lazy in the 90's when games were generally like ~10 hours long.
>oh please do show me the multitude of reused
Using any assets again at all is a dumb-ass practice and nobody does this because they have self respect.
Hey guys I've had the first witcher for years because it was $2 in a sale once. Is it somewhat decent compared to 3? What about 2?
>Using any assets again at all is a dumb-ass practice and nobody does this because they have self respect.
You sound like a naive retard that has absolutely no idea about how games are made.
I can't believe anyone here still believes you can have proper discussion about the Witcher anymore. We all know Sup Forums must hate anything a casual has ever touched so witcher is dead forever now.
It's hard in that you can die in a few hits but it is also has dodging I frames, 100% reduction shields and easily abusable AI, once you understand the game it is easy.
>You sound like a naive retard that has absolutely no idea about how games are made.
I'd like you to find me one game that uses any graphical assets twice in a subsequent video game.
What's exceptionally pathetic about your defending of From's blatant cornercutting is the fact that Bloodborne is supposed to be an entirely new franchise and it rips so much from Dark Souls.
Yeah I get that but I've seen a lot of people try to play this game unsuccessfully. Even if I try to coach them they still can't really grasp it a lot of the time. It's just not for everyone.
>Why add dialogue at all if it doesn't lend context to what you're doing in a game.
You do actually realize that Gehrman does guide you on? He says "just go kill some beasts, you'll figure it out eventually" and the game starts rolling from there.
I'm sorry the game doesn't dump 10 tons of exposition on you even while you're exploring.
>lazy game design
Making the player himself figure out and build their own thoughts about the events, and find their own way through the somewhat punishing world is lazy game design - while copy pasting eagle vision/arkham detective mode/wraith vision into "witcher senses" and then using them in 99% of all quests is not?
You're literally arguing that because something is written better, its a better game, and has better game design.
I had a better time playing Fallout 2 when it originally came out.
So no.
Call of Duty
Dishonored
Doom
Halo
Stalker
So many JRPGs
Every Platinum game
Its literally standad practice among studios to recycle what they can to save on costs. Only idiots make completely new stuff unneccesarily.
I asked this hours ago, please show the multitude of "reused assets" you find in Bloodborne.
And no, the fact that the games play similarly is not a reused asset.
Also yeah, that user was right, you have no fucking clue as to how video games are made if you're this adamant about reused assets, which there are not that many of anyway. Like I said earlier, DaS3 reuses BBs assets, not the other way around.
Why is Lambert such a whiner? He's like a teenager.
But he's like 90.
Is that how old Witchers have to be when they are teenagers? 90?
Yeah, pretty much. Playing this is bittersweet experience since you get to enjoy it, yet you know that when that huge amount of content actually ends you will be fucked for years to come since nobody will come even close to this in the next 5 years in the least.
>I'm sorry the game doesn't dump 10 tons of exposition
Never asked for that.
Simply asked to be told, "this is what you're looking out for."
In Fromshit trash you don't get anything, you just kind of fumble around like it's some kind of beta indie game. That's appropriate, considering that's the level they are on.
>Making the player himself figure out and build their own thoughts about the events, and find their own way through the somewhat punishing world is lazy game desig
You're making the lack of any sort of design structure or philosophy sound a lot more purposeful and thought out than it really is.
If you genuinely think that mindlessly walking around clicking everything you see until one eventually opens a door is "figuring it out" and "building your thoughts" then you are truly beyond saving you're such a fucking retard.
No wonder you like this trash, your time is of such little value that it doesn't matter anyway.
Mindlessly clicking "really makes you think"
Is this old guy the default template or can I create a character. I don't want to play as some ancient faggot
>so what did you think of witcher 3?
>I own ps4 and bb on it and never played witcher 3 so it sucks because BB is so good
Good thread.
No, you're playing as Geralt, you can't create a character nor is it self insert.
I think you want to play Oblivion or Fallout.
You are playing the role of Geralt de Ri, not some gender fluid ass-fuck.
Post tits u slut
All of these games have entirely new HUDs and textures developed for each title with only minor reused icons in STALKER and Doom 1/2, which are about 17 years older than you are. Congrats.
Dishonored reuses sound effects and animations
Call of Duty reuses animations from fucking 2005, same with Platinum
Every single Ubisoft game since 2007 is a copy of itself
Stalker reuses many sound effects, animations and textures
Inbred Polacks need stop shill this Ass Creed rip-off. It was mediocre.
GTA5 is a better game in almost every way.
>Simply asked to be told, "this is what you're looking out for."
>In Fromshit trash you don't get anything, you just kind of fumble around like it's some kind of beta indie game. That's appropriate, considering that's the level they are on.
In the same post you're replying to, I explained that you DO get directions you braindead fucking casual newfag.
>If you genuinely think that mindlessly walking around clicking everything you see until one eventually opens a door is "figuring it out" and "building your thoughts" then you are truly beyond saving you're such a fucking retard.
>mindlessly clicking
The fuck are you even talking about?
Every single area has NPCs that talk about the world, characters and the areas.
The game isn't even that big, you can complete it with 100% items and enemies killed in like 15 hours chalices included.
You complain about lazy game design when you yourself are lazy as fuck when it comes to actually playing the game.
The game tells you what to do, you're just willfully ignoring it and bitching like a child that there isn't a map and a grizzled man spouting exposition to your braindead face.
I bet you actually think Witcher Senses is good game design and respects the players intelligence. Witcher 3 doesn't expect its players to find an obvious clue right in front of them, so it just gives the braindead playerbase an insta-win button. The only reason why you think its so great is because "muh writing" - which is cliche and poorly based as fuck on top of everything.
I can see why you play autistic games like Fromshit when you're such an illiterate asshole that you forgot the part where I said "graphical assets."
From fans are some of the dumbest people on this board, for real.
I don't even know why you defend blatantly shitty practices to begin with, pure autism.
It's got the best character (Trevor) it's got hte best gameplay it's got the best graphics it's got the best score on the only platform GTA doesn't suck dicks on (PC)
>animations and textures arent graphical assets
Heh, you already got BTFO anyway buddy so move the goalposts as you want
GTAV map is bigger than all previous GTA games put together.
Why does it suck in you opinion?
Salty that your shitty JRPGs didn't get any awards?
>you DO get directions
Nope.
I've had the misfortune of playing through Dark Souls and Bloodborne to know that is simply untrue. It's a good thing the games are linear as fuck in terms of worldbuild because these dumb assholes would made the most tedious games ever if they actually gave a shit enough to go a little bigger.
>Every single area has NPCs that talk about the world, characters and the areas.
Yeah, autistic drivel that has nothing to do with the actual gameplay or objective. It's all "lore" that's genuinely only praised by autistic neckbeards.
>I bet you actually think Witcher Senses is good game design
It's not inherently bad game design, and unlike any From game there is enough detail in terms of graphics and description that you never need to use it. That is genuinely great game design.
>Witcher 3 doesn't expect its players to find an obvious clue right in front of them
The player can choose to follow the queues without it, by their own volition. Because again, unlike Fromshit there is actually something there to work with.
From just asserts minimum effort on anything because they are some of the laziest game developers in the industry and thats why they struggle to break 1mil sales.
Stay mad and wrong.
Animations aren't graphics
And the only game you listed textures for is STALKER which I said yes they used some icons.
Awards is the only you fuckers talk about anymore.
If the game is so good, why doesn't anyone ever discuss anything else about it, barring waifufagging and >muh feels when no more witchurz gaems
Solution is simple really, its a boring, one time experience with frankly god tier graphics and voice acting but falls short on literally every other facet. Its gameplay is braindead and aimed at the mass casuals like you who lap it up and call it "engaging". Its open world is dull and ubisoft-tier padded with copy-pasted content nobody likes doing. Its story while having amazing side stories, is unfocused, poorly paced and ultimately just super fucking mario in poland.
I really don't understand you fucks who think this "follow red shit while exposition is fucked down my throat" simulator is worthy of any praise beyond graphical fidelity and voice acting.