Take away it's story and its high graphical fidelity and you have a really unremarkable game.
>Cover shooting is pretty much nothing new we've seen in other games.
> Climbing sections lack any real challenge or strategy.
> Stealth sections are so incredibly half asses. Enemy AI is was too forgiving, having to pop out of cover to tag enemies is flat out dumb, and the lack of being able to draw the attention of one enemy (seriously just let me throw a pebble) and lack of a silent weapon is a huge oversight.
> The only real cool puzzle in the game was that one with the pirate portraits, that's about it.
Yet fans will still scream "Its a masterpiece" because A. It's Naughty Dog B. Its a Sony Exclusive and they want to rub it in Xbox fans faces C. Lots of things go BOOM! D. Saying "But but... it's story makes it perfect"
Invalid since the score is inflated by Sony owned or Playstation Fanboy sites.
Jeremiah Lee
>Take away it's story and its high graphical fidelity and you have a really unremarkable game.
Then you dont have a game anymore lol, you have a shitty movie. lol idiot
Liam Wilson
Actually if there's no story you wouldn't even have a movie.
Connor Johnson
And fans wonder why Overwatch won GOTY
Owen Myers
>Take away the music and sound and what is left? Just a deaft game, stupid goy.
This is you Op. Retarded.
Joseph Mitchell
Uncharted series and TLOU are both garbage. It's okay though I don't have to play them. There's enough other stuff out there.
Nicholas Watson
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Isaac Bailey
>take away half of the game and its shit! what a surprise
Levi Gomez
best part was at the end of the game when a skinny black woman beats 2 fit treasure hunters in a 1v2 fight.. LOL
Logan Ross
she's a strong independent woman who don't need no man you autistic manchild
Gabriel Miller
The gameplay has always been mediocre. Same for TLOU. The story and characters are what carry the games.
Carson Morris
My god you really don't get it do you, here's a hint: He's talking about the Gameplay in a GAME.
Luke Turner
Don't forget the clock tower section.
Made it feel like Sands of Time for once.
Easton Morales
OP you're not making any sense.
>Take away the chess pieces and chess is a very boring game
No shit
Joseph Rivera
It's interesting to see the reactions of people who have played the games and liked/loved them and people who haven't. People who have played them tend to be much more accepting of criticism of the series, whereas fanboys who jump on the bandwagon and shout down anyone who deigns to criticise it tend to be ones who haven't even touched any of them.
I personally did not like them. They're sub-standard even as far as third person shooters go with the crappy AI and conveniently designed levels that are less subtle than Gears of War.
Bentley Rodriguez
The chess pieces are gameplay.
Eli Hernandez
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Xavier Hall
Taking about the gameplay for a game he hasn't played and never will, SAD!
Kayden Cox
Typical fanboys, anyone criticises their favourite series they stick their head in the sand and think they didn't actually play it.
Chase Jones
Ok example:
How much fun is PoP: Sands of time without the art design, music, characters, dialogue and story?
What it comes down to is that some people just want to play Tetris. This game is not for you.
I don't like grinding or social interaction so I don't play World of Warcraft. I don't make threads about how terrible it is: I recognise that I am not the target audience.
Blake King
All your "criticism" are literal meme buzzwords
Adam Cook
>>Cover shooting is pretty much nothing new we've seen in other games.
Yeah but it's fine.
Hell, I enjoy Spec-Ops and most people say the shooting there detracts from the experience.
For some reason generic cover shooter games are fun to me.
Nolan Reed
I don't NEED bloodborne. Your response will be "haha keep telling yourself that".
Eli Stewart
>Take away it's story and its high graphical fidelity yeah just take away two major elements of its success
you could do this with literally any game
Luis Wright
The problem is that uncharted is a shitty shooter
there are cover based shooters with good gameplay and this is not one of them
Luke Howard
>implying
I remember all the shit you gave Max Payne 3.
Jose Rodriguez
>"A Thief's End" >Heavily implied Drake or Sam will die due to greed >Sam basically wants to kill himself at this point with how blind with greed he is >No mythical elements whatsoever in UC4, unlike 1 and 2, 3 hinted at them but then shit all over it >They both get out scot-free and with some treasure too while Rafe WHO LITERALLY DID NOTHING WRONG dies >Sam lied to his blood brother who he hadn't seen in years and Drake thought he was dead >Stronk black womyn beats up Drake and then also beats up Drake and Sam at the same time - Then she gets off scot-free unlike Rafe AND THEN ALSO gets to star in another game with Chloe because she don't need no man >Final boss is barely better than the QTE of 3 >Climbing is just "circle the joystick around and mash X and get it over with as quick as you can because this is boring" >Game is full of "WHOA YOU ALMOST DIED WHEN THAT THING YOU WERE ON BROKE" moments to the point that it makes you groan when it happens for the tenth time >Who gives a flying fuck about stupid god damn butt-pirates and Libertalia?
Xavier King
The gameplay is better than gears by a mile. Combat lets you take the stealth approach or go in guns blazing and the level design adds platforming onto it.
But then again if youre on xbox i guess you dont have much of a choice.
Caleb Thomas
>The gameplay is better than gears by a mile. No it's not. Gears of War is actually a solid shooter with fun weapons and good mechanics. Uncharted is a shitty mish mash of a bad cover shooter, bad platformer and bad stealth game.
Ethan Bennett
Lol go figures its the xbots hating on this game. Gears is just a shit game with no redeeming qualities.
Colton Reed
Pokemon doesn't need either and look how that's turning out.
Anthony Hughes
So basically like every other Uncharted game then?
Matthew Murphy
>How much fun is PoP: Sands of time without the art design, music, characters, dialogue and story? Still fun, infact i would enjoy it more if they didnt talk/have the story.
Gabriel Russell
>Its another game that has the YOU CAN PLAY THE WAY YOU WANT TO PLAY XDDD approach, making it way less fun, since they are not focusing on one or the other, you get two half assed ways to approach a situation. fun
Grayson Perez
I own every console you stupid sonygger. Gears of War is way better than uncharted, they're not even in the same league.
Sebastian Thomas
The thing that gets me the most is 4 games in and they still don't have the balls to kill any character off other than the one dimensional villains, speaking of which them pussying out of the obvious plot twist was just embarrassing.
Jaxon Ortiz
>games make you play the way you want >its way less fun >game does the same thing with one thing >its way repetitive You cant win with Sup Forums
Colton Moore
UC4 was a solid 7/10.
Charles Peterson
But the online which doesn't have these is literally 10/10.
Carson Campbell
And I am the queen of england, you deluded xtard. Gears is trash.
Liam Sanchez
Oh yeah that too, it pretty much means Chapter 5 is a complete waste of time since nothing in this chapter actually happens.
Ian Baker
>game does the same thing with one thing >its way repetitive Thats why you focus on one way, so you can make gameplay that revolves around it. Titanfall 2 has levels that revolve around the movement. Uncharted is supposed to be a action adventure, yet they add the whole "Stealth" part which makes it way less fun.
Luis Walker
This comment is really a special type of stupid.
Case and point: See pic
Justin Clark
Focus on one way and it gets called repetitive. Add new mechanics or option and it loses focus. Either way the argument is rigged to shit on whatever game you want.
Cooper Gomez
This simpleton argument could be used for pretty much any game, try hard.
Noah Lewis
How to tell if Uncharted is a masterpiece:
Does it allow non-linear exploration? No? Then it's not a masterpiece.
Joshua King
You mean a game has to be open world to be a masterpiece?
Angel Robinson
The story is utterly unremarkable either, it is the story telling that elevates it.
Brandon Collins
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David Jenkins
>implying linear games can't be masterpieces
Ryan Perez
Not necessarily, look at Super Metroid or Dark Souls
Wyatt Walker
So are your attempts to defend it. Instead of negating these supposedly simply discarded "meme" critiques, you stick to ad hominem, jackass.
Grayson Ramirez
implying that Call of Duty can be a masterpiece.
Michael Peterson
>climbing sections lack any real challenge Name one game with climbing sections that require challenge and strategy.
Evan Davis
Are you saying that a linear FPS can't be a masterpiece?
Here's a nine minute video that goes in depth on the evolution of Uncharted as a franchise and it's scripted chase scenes and gameplay elements, beyond scripted eye candy
Oh I guess since no one has ever done it, Naughty Dog shouldn't bother.
Oliver Diaz
To be honest, I only have a few games I'd consider masterpieces, and none of them are FPS games.
But games like Half-Life 2 are great and are linear.
Uncharted 2 was also great. See:
John Watson
Im saying climbing section are inherently limited, but that doesnt mean it shouldnt be in a game.
Gavin Bailey
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Joshua Gomez
On my first playthrough I honestly thought Sully was going to be killed halfway through since he wasn't in the in medias res prologue. The more I thought about it, the more I felt it would have genuinely improved the story and Nate's character arc. If he was now forced to push forwards on this quest so shortly after losing his best friend of so many years to save his brother, it would've driven home the immense consequences of Nate's fortune hunting that the devs were trying to sell us and felt more like a finale. What we got was a story with a lot of action but no real stakes or consequences, which I guess has always been the case in these games, although it's still a little disappointing they couldn't finish it off with a bang
James Thompson
>Evolution It's the same fucking game five times. Just look at the trophy lists they are identical up until the Vita one and even then. Yes I have played them.