How it was even possible to make such boring and uninspired rpg?

How it was even possible to make such boring and uninspired rpg?
Even bioware did a better job with original nwn

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MotB was good and SoZ was decent

and honestly the OC reminds me a lot of Baldur's Gate

>Even bioware did a better job with original nwn
hahahaha
It was only 'boring' and 'uninspired' because it was too subtle for you to pick up on, Biodrone.
There's literally no good reason at all to prefer the OC of nwn1

I think it's pretty good once the basebuilding aspect comes into play

>Even bioware did a better job with original nwn
No.

NWN2 was just generic and at times badly paced. They went for a "typical fantasy adventure" and in doing so forgot to make it interesting in its own right It plays with stereotypes in a way that's mildly amusing, but it doesn't do far enough with the self-awareness to actually make it fun. It still had some decent characters and the story was fine, plus it was mechanically superior to NWN.

NWN wasn't just generic and boring without even a hint of NWN2's self-awareness, it also had shit level design and a shit story. Most of the game is just "clear these four shitty areas, fight the boss, then return to the hub for a short bit of dialogue and the key to the next hub."

Both become better with their expansions though. NWN1 had the halfway decent Undrentide expansion and the actually good Underdark expansion. NWN2 had the extremely good and universally acclaimed Mask of the Betrayer expansion and the less good but mechanically more interesting Storm of Zehir.

This. If you thought NWN2 was the truly generic and uninspired game from the series, play NWN.

It's still alright for what it is, but MoB is where it's at.

>nwn2 story was fine
>nwn story was shit
Wow, this is the new low for the obsidiandrones

But that's exactly right

It was though.

In NWN you're literally the only survivor of the fantasy hero academy. It's like a fucking 13 year old wrote it.

...

>gets BTFO so thoroughly his only response is 'b-but muh obsididrones'
What's the matter, Biodrone? Too upset both KotOR II and NWN2 are infinitely better than their Bioware counterparts?

Why don't you play it yourself, then? NWN2 has that "it's generic, but cheesy in a good way" vibe. NWN is just boring all throughout.

No, it isn't
Even without shit like "good guardian is now evil" nwn2 was full of shit like "entire city forgot that Warlock asked official help and actually lead both humans and demons against undead in span of 20 years, and now we think that we fought against him"
Nwn2 story was full of garbage like that
Nwn was actually well written

NWN OC was a generic ''Everything was peaceful till my home got attacked'' story that took itself too serious.

NWN2 OC was a generic ''Everything was peaceful till my home got attacked'' story that didn't take itself serious

Both are not good but NWN2's cheese approach was better than NWN's serious one.

And in the nwn2 you are the only survivor of village and the only one who can stop ancient evil because shard is inside you
In the nwn you just a badass who know how to do shit, by the way many others adventures survived assault
But of course obsidrones can only twist truth because they are afraid of facts

>nitpicking a dumb high fantasy campaign
Your problem right there.

NWN2 > NWN1

Sorry user but NWN2 is just the better game.

KAEDRIN UPDATE WHEN??


I'VE BEEN STALLING PATH OF EVIL AND WULVERHEIM SINCE FOREVER BUT THIS FUCKER HAS DONE FUCK ALL FOR A WHOLE YEAR

>only survivor of village
Wrong.
>and the only one who can stop ancient evil because shard is inside you
Overly reductive but even as far as it is true it's actually a well-written justification for ''only you can save the world.''

>In the nwn you just a badass who know how to do shit, by the way many others adventures survived assault
Are heroes made? Or are they born? Is it enough to want to do good, or do you need special circumstances to truly be a hero?

>Nwn was actually well written
Hahahahahaha.

I think people love nwn2 more because they hate rpg and roleplaying
In nwn if you was forced to work for someone, you could at least call them for their shit
Nwn2 full of quests with only one choice [next], great example would be guardian/thief lines where after saving city/giving city to the thiefs, you couldn't even ask about promised deal and was forced to fuck off on the other side of map

Could've been better if Qara and Casavir's subplots weren't cut.

>wrong
>everyone who was in the village died and only you survived because shards killed your mother but not you for some super special reason
As I said, obsidian drones are afraid of facts and can only twist truth

>complaining about a paid game you got for free

Nothing wrong with that. Free doesn't equal good.

>Even bioware did a better job with original nwn
Not really.

The original NWN campaign was pretty much D&D Diablo. It was completely uninspired and had next to no role playing opportunities. Not to mention getting rid of the party.

The NWN2 campaign is generic and not particularly interesting but mechanically it is much more solid.

It gets better in Act II and pretty great once you get your own Keep to maintain.

This is a counterargument on Sup Forums

>all critical discussion of games should focus on whether it was worth its price

Well, NWN1 does not have tiefling waifu so it's objectively inferior.

Some despicable user made me aware Kaedrin posted another update a few days ago saying "soon"
Fucking user I hate you for making me aware, now I'll keep hopelessly updating that page forever even though I know chances are we'll only get it around next year if we ever get it since lol kaedrin

>there are actually Bishop x Casavir banters where they fight over your pussy

NWN2 was garbage. Obsidian was never good their games just occasionaly had good characters by Avellone.

Both of these games are garbage.

Bioware did best with Baldur's Gate II.

Why are you replying to yourself OP?

I take it you didn't play vanilla NWN campaign

Because it was the garbagiest of garbage and even 2, which I'm not a fan of, is more fun

what the fuck is that

Lol
Unlike you, insane obsidian drone, I replayed series this year. You can have fun in the nwn oc, it's impossible to enjoy nwn2 oc
This is simple truth

A shitty mod that thinks quantity of quality is the way to go

no i meant what the fuck is that gif? or more specifically, what's it from?

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>obsidian writing

>you can have fun in nwn oc
>three arcs, each boil down to "collect three plot tickets and return"
>no items beyond generic +X bonuses
>leveling is slow as fuck

>Unlike you, insane obsidian drone, I replayed series this year.
Cool projection, but I played all campaigns on co-op with two friends recently. Wanted to give it a shot after I spent like 3000 hours on NWN1 multiplayer because of persistent server modules

MoB>HotU>SoU=SoZ>shit>NWN2 OC>suicide>NWN1 OC

NWN1 OC was probably the most tedious experience with vidya I ever lived through and I ground my way through Drakngard 1 and platinum trophy in Nier

It's good. It just takes time to really start, which is something that i like. Nowadays, peoples attention span is so low that it's hard to take the time to do something.

>the trial
>Amon Jerro's house
>the King of Shadows
>boring

The only boring things were the first act and Fire girl because her plotline got cut.

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Was there a way to save the farm girl?
She was wrecking shit with haste + other buffs but died in Jerro's house.

Sadly no, but depending on your influence with her, the ending slide for her farm is different as well as an event with Amon Jerro can happen near the end of the game.

Best part was talking Ammon into regretting what he did.

I can't decide which is better, devouring Myrkul yourself or letting One of Many do it.

Both are bad
The best is the Eternal Rest option as that actually ends Myrkul's existance to the point he even sphagettis in the dialogue as you are about to do it, devouring him just ensures a part of him will still live from what I remember.

But on the other hand you have eating the Founder's soul and becoming an immortal abomination, or OoM's boss fight. These two are much more exciting than a slide from a happy ending.

What's the NWN2 mod that lets you play as skeletons and stuff?

>there is a physical wall you can visit full of athiest ghosts
>in fact, all athiests go to this wall for literally all of eternity when they die
>despite knowing this, and despite observing miracles performed by gods, choose to be an athiest

gg bishop

I don't mean using Eternal Rest on Myrkul because it's a good aligned thing.
By using Eternal Rest you pretty much destroy him, while the entire point of Akachi's curse was to ensure Myrkul would still be feared even after his demise so he would always have enough faith to remain "alive"
Being able to fuck with a god and the lines where Myrkul pisses all over himself while he realizes you are about to end him are priceless, especially considering how arrogant he is during the entire sequence before that.

Sigil:City of Doors PW
Hope you enjoy roleplaying your skeleton.

You forgot best part
>you can't be ranger and atheist at the same time, it's like being cleric and atheist or Druid and atheist

>cleric and atheist
>who is Fall-From-Grace

That is allowed in the Sigil setting.
In FR rangers must worship a nature deity if they want to get access to spells.
Bishops gets spells despite no deity

I'm pretty sure a cleric/druid/ranger of an idea is allowed. Or maybe it's just my DM being a pussy and allowing everything.

Either way, Bishop was a retard, that much is true.

Dude had issues. The fuck was Bishop's problem, anyway? Angsting over neither being a hero nor a normie?

the shard killed your mother because it hit her first you idiot
it passed through her entire body which slowed it down enough to no longer be lethal once it hit you

no cleric/druid/ranger of an idea is allowed in every single D&D setting other than FR
however its part of FR lore that all forms of divine magic must come from a deity, be it through worship, heritage or outright stealing magic from the gods (ur-priests, love'm)

Hordes of The Underdark was the the only good game in the series by a large margin, prove me wrong

MotB exists and has a better story.