Since the most recognizable/popular Pokemon of the current gen gets into Smash Bros...

Since the most recognizable/popular Pokemon of the current gen gets into Smash Bros., and with it looking like Smash Switch will come out before Pokemon's Gen 8, what do you think pic related's moveset will be like?

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>implying it won't be Litten's final evo

Was Greninja even that popular

shit, just like its stat spread

Wasn't Greninja chosen for smash at the start of X/Y's development?

Everything else was worse, do it was popular by default.

>implying anyone likes Incineroar besides barafags

it won a poll in Japan for what that's worth

believe me if you will... most normies are starting with littens.

UNLESS its going to be a non-starter, i really think its going to be incineroar.

It got its anime version into the fucking games, much like Pikachu in Yellow.

Only winners become popular, user.

Normies don't know or care about that shit. To them, it's exactly what it's advertised as -- an "edgy" fire-type starter themed off of Mexican wrestling heels. It's a substantially more popular pick than the other two, and it has a much more distinct theme and appearance.

Greninja was chosen before XY even released. Sakurai said they had to work with only a few character design sheets from GameFreak.
After XY released, Greninja did become the most popular starter, its Protean ability made it one of the most usable Water-type Mons, it got an incredibly edgy and protagonic form which later got added into the games being the first Mon to have a definitive resemblance to Ash in the games ever.
The Owl is gay, tho.

Sniper with a variety of projectiles, can teleport (a la Mewtwo and Palutena), Spirit Shackle signature move sets up for combos.

Or basically this.

>I'm just going to talk out of my ass and project my assumptions onto the entire world of normies because I'm too intelligent to not know what they're thinking

PLEASE kill yourself

Decidueye doesn't have a teleport, but I will let it slide, if only for how neat that spoiler would be.

You mean Mimikyu right?

doesn't ash have a litten in the anime? that sort of axes the owl

Ash has the owl

That's a weird looking litten.

I'm sorry I'm retarded, I meant the air-dodge property not the Up-B special, it's a ghost type so it would make sense.

ah kay, well that pretty much confirms the owl

>Cosmog has it in the bag!

Barafag here, Incineroar is unfappable. Such an awful design.

literally only has 2 moves

That's more than what an F-Zero racer can do.

>Neutral B
Spirit Shackle. Like Link's Bow, except has a longer duration stun like Zero Suit Samus' Paralyzer.

>F-Smash
Leaf Blade, a three-hit combo like Cloud's F-Smash (3 hits because that's what the move's animation is in the games)

That's all I got because I'm not a creative person

so how triggered would many of you be if a ghost type indeed got int

and it was Gengar?

Incineroar is more built for being in Smash, given it's the most humanoid of the three. I'd say Decidueye would be a pokeball pokemon, but it'd probably be Rowlet instead.

Ash has both Rowlet and Litten. Popplio is the one that get shafted.

Only Haunterfags hate Gengar

well folks who are upset with gen 1 pandering would pop a vein if yet another gen 1 mon got in

0% triggered, not a huge fan of it myself but I can see the appeal. Only worry would be whether Mewtwo would keep Shadow Ball or not.

I'd say the both of them would work fine in brawl
its not like there aren't some weird characters in the game

>6 mons currently in the smash roster
>4 of them are gen one

I'd think the guys in charge are almost as bad as Gamefreak with gen 1 pandering

Key word almost

>Incineroar is more built for being in Smash
We went through all of Japan Time 2.0 and you retards still don't get that "being suited for Smash" doesn't mean shit

Wii Fit Trainer is a character for fuck's sake

Give me best fuckin pokemon. If it must be gen 7, do Golisopod.

>Incineroar is more built for being in Smash

You mean Pokken.

>given it's the most humanoid of the three

Doesn't matter in Smash.

>Ash has both Rowlet and Litten.

And guess which one is getting all of the promotional art

gengar line is more associated with things like night shade and confusion ray anyways (in popular media)
so if it got a more prankster-like set of ghost moves shadow ball wouldn't be missing

>Adding another archer
Fuck off Sakurai

Just my headcanon I guess, but since Morty had the Shadow Ball TM I always picture him using it, or just a lot of fanart in general.

well lets look at it from this perspective
first game there was only gen 1, which got 2 representatives because it was the high days of pokemon
as a direct result jigglypuff is now to iconic a smash character to ever cut
mewtwo is similar in that regard in that its an old character and thus had a lot of fan-requests to include him again
and charizard well, its currently the second most popular pokemon so kinda hard to leave it out

At least it's not a swordsman.

yeh but would you really miss it if in return gengar had a highly stylized lick attack?

haha, that would be a cool attack user.

do you think other fighters would get embarrassed when gengar licks them? they'll have all his saliva all over their bodies. haha

Last time i checked, greninja got his slot before he was even revealed to the world

I'm not really that concerned, senpai.

I thought sakurai didn't want to make smash anymore

Allegedly Sakurai himself chooses which Pokemon makes the roster, but given his past choices I have to imagine he'll pick the Grass type starter to complete the type triangle.

RIP Ivysaur.

He won't, the next Smash is going to be an outsourced card based game :^)

>laughing garfield

and given its a rare grass type that would actually fit (nobody likes sceptile, don't bother) its likely he'll not pass it up

Decidueye is the most popular of the starters, but I get the feeling a non-starter would be chosen. Like Tapu Koko, or A-Raichu, or Silvally with a super gimmicky type swapping gimmick made with FFA in mind and disregarding how broken it would be in 1v1.

>not
TORA
TORA
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>Gengar
Nah, here's the most-likely Pokeghost for smash

Golisopod is probably my favorite gen VII pokemon. First impression could be the final smash being like Marth's critical hit.

Im hoping for mimikyu

I think this would be the likely candidate list

>Decidueye
>Incineroar
>Rockruff
>Koko
>Silvally
A. Raichu I'm not so sure of. I'd also say that Marshadow could be up there, considering that chances are Pokemon Stars could be coming out and may have it be a part of that game.

Decidueye/Rowlet and Incineroar are at least guaranteed pokeballs/trophies though.

are you guys serious? If anything from SM is getting in, its Buzzwole

>both Links, Pit, Pittoo
>their bow/arrow moves are just neutral B

Am I missing anyone?

>but I get the feeling a non-starter would be chosen

Starters work well in Smash because they're entry level Pokemon and tend to be the most recognizable in their Generation. Its obvious GF is looking to push a new starter and Sakurai leans heavily towards fighters with a wide popular appeal. There are other viable choices but Decidueye is by and far the front runner for a SM Generation pokemon on the Smash roster.

Memes.

FUCKING TOJOS ARE AT IT AGAIN
MAN THE GUNS

Forgetting the Pokemon that got its own themesong
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Greninja wasn't chosen because it was the most popular at the time.

Way before X/Y were released, Sakurai saw some design docs and thought Greninja would be the best fit for Smash, in addition to having the most chances of being popular.

He was pretty spot on.

i could see him getting in

>him

As a stage boss.

Yeah either him or Xurkitree would be cool

>him

Issue with this is if it is Decidueye that's popular so much as it is Rowlet. For instance, there's a good chance Ash's Rowlet will never evolve and will stay the cute mascot pokemon, while Litten will be the main fighter as Incineroar.

But it could go either way. Rowlet is the most popular and Incineroar is pretty well-liked by GF, given the earlier promotional stuff for SM heavily featured Litten. Poor Popplio is by far the least popular all around though.

mimikyu will absolutely be a pokeball or stage hazard. It's being pushed too hard to not make it in

to be fair, its not particularly hard to guess greninja would be popular

I'd say mimikyu is more iconic. I doubt either would get into smash though. Maybe that stupid gear princess thing or an ultra beast. Hopefully the jacked mosquito guy.

Non-starters are usually not even close to being as recognizable as starters. Pikachu and Jigglypuff got popular because of the anime, but in Red/Green/Blue Pika and Puff were literal who's compared to Charizard, Blastoise and Venusaur.

Lucario got popular because of all the pre-release hype and had his own movie before Brawl came out IIRC.

Greninja got in because Sakurai wanted to represent the 6th gen and went with what they assume would eventually be a recognizable and popular Pokemon, as it was a starter, even though the anime Greninja pandering hadn't happened yet.
Decidueye is in the same boat as Greninja. Saying Rockruff or Tapu Whatever getting in over Decidueye is like saying Litleo or Diancie will get in over Greninja in 2013.

>tl;dr
Decidueye is still far and away the most likely candidate for Smash, unless Gen 8 comes out before it

>Trump won
>Rowlet won
POTTERY

Sakurai picks the fighter, not GameFreak. If Rowlet is the most popular starter, then Sakurai will pick the most popular starter's final evolution, because ultimately his goal is mass appeal.

Pic related is every Rowelt picker.

Me too!

Wow nice pic lol

What if Lycanroc makes it in instead? His Day/Night gimmick might be something Sakurai likes for stages too.

>For instance, there's a good chance Ash's Rowlet will never evolve and will stay the cute mascot pokemon, while Litten will be the main fighter as Incineroar.
Ash always evolves the cool and edgy starter of the gen, if there is one. They all are generally nimble looking and have a 'badass' flair as opposed to something big and bulky like Blastoise or Emboar or Incineroar.

>Charizard
>Sceptile
>Infernape
>Greninja
>(?) Decidueye

The pattern is pretty apparent

Honestly neither of the forms are very popular, and a transformation mechanic wouldn't make much sense either.

That's like saying "hey guys what if Pyroar gets in over Greninja in Smash?"

nah mimikyu is gonna be in a pokeball powerup

problem is that Incineroar also fits

what if ash, for a change, evolved BOTH of them and they had this constant rivalry thing going on?

Except he's getting a Litten and Litten is Getting the Edgy Starter backstory this gen in the anime

Meanwhile Rowlett is filling the role of regional bird.

Which means both of them are fully evolving

Decidueye is more similar to Sceptile, Infernape and Greninja than Incineroar.

Notice how Ash's ace starter evolution is always the fastest starter of its gen

>most normies are starting with littens.

I'm not a norm and I kicked off my Sun with Litten tbqhhwy famlam

Did Litten get abandoned in the rain? I would laugh if that backstory happened again

I'd rather see Ivysaur return. Decidueye for Pokken.

Even if he does, its obvious that D-eye is going to get way more promotional material, so in the end it doesn't really matter if Ash also has Incineroar because both GameFreak and Sakurai are going to want to push the most popular starter. Which is still Rowlet, by the way.

there's no such thing as a fast starter in Alola

no seriously all of them are slower than god damn blastoise

I would too, but SM are way too popular to not get a newcomer in the next Smash.

well given that line is all about wrestlin'

what if litten constantly came up with increasingly more tragic backstories, none of which were true?

In that case, I wouldn't choose any of the starters because I think the only reason why Rowlet is the most popular is because a lot of people hate the designs of the other two. Just my theory. I'd like to see a survey where people actually explain why they chose their starter to know for sure.

That's why I picked Rowlet. I was even expecting to box it but Grass/Flying was pretty handy early game.

Someone's been spending too much time in the salt mine that is /vp/.

Anyways it doesn't matter why Rowlet is the most popular starter, only that it objectively is, not only in the West but Japan especially.

Ash will have an Incineroar, his Rowlet will probably never evolve so it can remain a cutemon that stays in Ash's bag, so I'd say Incineroar has more chances of making it in 5mash. Besides, Greninja wasn't chosen because it was recognizable/popular, but because his design documents inspired Sakurai the most. Greninja was chosen before X/Y even came out

It only won that poll because the winner was going to get a special distribution and everyone wanted a Protean Greninja, because Protean is an OP ability.

>speculative argument

Ash already has a shouldermon, there's no reason to suspect his Rowlet won't evolve.