>Mistborn: Birthright is an upcoming action-RPG video game developed by Little Orbit and based on the Mistborn series by Brandon Sanderson. The game will serve as a prequel to the Mistborn trilogy, with the story and dialogue written by Sanderson.
>Mistborn: Birthright is dead.
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What did he mean by this?
Im glad it died
Mistborn was just ok. It was like a solid 6.5 as far as fantasy goes. I really liked the metal-magic system, but none of the characters were memorable. The setting was also pretty dull.
I'm a pretty big Sanderson fan, but I doubt vidya would do Allomancy justice. Compound that with the fact that Little Orbit is a literally who dev, it's probably for the best that it's not made. And honestly, I would rather have a Stormlight Archive game.
I liked it quit a bit. I wouldn't say that none of the characters were memorable, but the problem was that the two main characters, Vin and Elend, were both pretty forgettable and boring. I think the side characters like Tensoon, Kelsier, and Sazed were all interesting.
This.
Interesting ideas, poorly written.
>no open world Lies of Locke Lamora game in the style of Assassin's Creed
This is a dark timeline.
Fun fact: GRRM is still pimping that fucking book. He was just in Mexico and the three authors he said to watch were Lynch, Abercrombie and Rothfuss.
Apparently, he likes people that right similar stories to him, and people that write as fucking slowly as him.
What's some good fantasy? I have only ever read the first couple incarnations of immortality books. I heard Book of the New Sun is good, should I start there?
>watch
But all three of them are very fucking widely known and actually publish books frequently instead of a multi-year wait like that slow fuck. Granted, I've yet to read anything from Abercrombie, but I do have The Blade Itself on my Kindle to read. Also, all three of those authors wrote in his "Rogues" compilation and Lynch's short story was hands down the best.
Good fantasy can be different things.
Book of the New Sun is great, but it's not as accessible as something like The First Law.
So what are you actually looking for?
Book 2 would basically be Black Flag. It's a shame about how shit that third book was and the delayed as fuck fourth book.
Fuck the whole first era setting.
It's all about the magic western of round 2 with people who are actually charismatic and books that aren't 400 pages long with 300 pages of fucking nothing.
>very fucking widely known
He was in Mexico. Abercrombie has little presence there and I don't even know if Lynch has translations.
>actually publish books frequently
M8, Rothfuss has done 2 books in 9 years and it took Lynch 6 years to go from Red Seas to Thieves, and another 4 years to go from Thieves to Emberlain.
Only Abercrombie publishes with any decent regularity.
I don't think I'd argue with you there, but I also think reading the original trilogy helps lay down the groundwork and background. I thought Mistborn was solid, but it was the reading the Stormlight Archive books afterwards that made me read virtually all that Sanderson has written. I fucking loved Words of Radiance. That, and I think the concept of the Cosmere is pretty neat.
Nu-Mistborn is even worse.
Wax isn't even a character, Wayne is the worst character Sanderson has ever written and everyone is stock as hell. It's just a medium for him to think up nerdy power interactions.
Whilt they're not bad (aside from Rothfuss) I'm not too fond of this current wave of (grim)dark fantasy.
Nearly every new fantasy novel tries to be more gritty and more cynical than what came before, and it's just depressing. I like to read some "good guys win in the end" fantasy once in a while too.
Same goes for vidya really. Happy endings are far and between these days. Everything needs to be edgy and "thought-provoking".
These books fucking suck. Got 1/3 of the way through the first one before I dropped it
Only Abercrombie is slightly grimdark, and his stuff fits as grit more than darkness. And The Heroes as a happyish ending. Lynch isn't grimdark at all.
It's not like it's Mark Lawrence or something.
Frequently wasn't the correct word. That was meant to be sort of tongue-in-cheek because I know both Lynch and especially Rothfuss are slow writers too, but still they both outpace GRRM. I'm convinced there will never be a Kingkiller book 3, just like we will likely never get Winds of Winter. Locke's next book hopefully will be coming out by the end of this year, but I know it's been rescheduled repeatedly this year.
>end of this year,
Q1 2017 is the new revised release. Lynch's marriage and move across the country delayed it.
Agreed. WoK is gonna be his masterpiece. Which is proven by the fact he actually takes his time with them, not shitting them out like Mistborn, Reckoners, etc etc.
You say that precisely because the standard has changed. 10 years ago Lynch's rape, mass execution and torture scenes would've qualified as grimdark.
>your favorite fantasy series will never get a video game because it's too dense for normies to understand
FeelsBadMan
More like the first half of Stormlight will be his masterpiece.
Every single second half protagonist he's introduced has been awful. I see no reason so far to read past the end of Kaladin/Dalinar/Shallan's story conclusions in part 5.
>move across the country delayed it
I can't imagine how arduous a task it'd be to move all the way across the country! That has to have delayed him by at least a year! Maybe the divorce is for the better so we can stop shoehorning shitty Sabetha into the series. And maybe this next book will actually have some thievery instead of boring political bullshit with no real misdirection like the other two books.
MMYYYYY NAME IS NOT
Believable, consistent world, nothing mind numbingly boring like Game of Thrones which I dropped after midway into book 2.
Right now I'm reading Snow Crash and favorite books are Canticle for Leibowitz, Dune, and Solaris to give you some idea of my tastes if that helps.
Even when Lies of Locke Lamora came out, it wasn't considered grimdark.
There's too much humor and likability. The books don't set out to set a dark tone.
You know, Mark Lawrence himself complained that he got shit on for Prince of Thorns when nobody complained about Lamora.
He doesn't understand that the first half of Lies is mostly charming thief shenanigans and delightful dialogue, where in Prince of Thorns he has his 14 year old MC rape multiple people in the first 2 pages.
There's a universe where Lynch didn't have a divorce, causing him not to pour all his resentment into Sabetha and her ending up being likable.
She's so bad in RoT. Especially since the last book had Ezri Delmastro, who was a great love interest to Jean.
Who are the other protagonists, other than Adolin? My memory is shittier than I thought. I assume you aren't talking about the one shots in the interludes?
Book of the New Sun, The Black Company, maybe Lord Foul's Bane if you're feeling both brave and masochistic.
>Cute barefoot girl
WHY DID IT HAVE TO HAPPEN LIKE THIS.
It's confirmed vaporware by the man himself, sadly.
Era 2 is pretty groovy. Wayne is easily Sanderson's best, most-natural character (somehow) and I hope he becomes a worldhopper with MeLaan.
Second half mite b cool because of a likely huge paradigm shift. It's theorized that the first half will have some conclusion involving Odium, and if he is freed from the Roshar system, wacky shenanigans will ensue.
Jasnah, Lift, the man who thinks he is Taln, Shalash, and Renarin, not Adolin.
>Book of the New Sun is great, but it's not as accessible
Depends. On a surface reading (weird Dying Earth adventure story) New Sun is pretty accessible. I read it when I was a kid, understood pretty much nothing Wolfe was trying to do, and still enjoyed it.
>Rothfuss.
Apparently his books features a protag who's a fuckninja and knows special fuckmoves like The Wind Shakes the Reeds that leave women convulsing with pleasure like they've been tazed.
>it's a brandon sanderson thread
STORMLIGHT THREE SOON
>Wayne is easily Sanderson's best, most-natural character (somehow)
You again.
You're wrong, by the way. His comedy is terrible and forced, his personality is mindless quirkiness and his backstory is both cliche and underutilized. He develops like a brick rolling down stairs. Every interaction he has with side characters is cringeworthy.
>get not-vidya job to make the big bux
>provide funding for developers to make your dream game
How fukt am I if this is my plan for the next couple decades?
Most of those seem to be secondary characters, at least for now. Did you mean in the future? Obviously some of those people are going to be more important as shit goes on.
The Name of the Wind was decent, with massive self insert undertones.
Wise Man's Fear was legitimately a bad book, and no amount of interesting prose can save it.
Well yeah, user. That's why they're going to be flashback protagonists in the back half, and not currently.
Read Jack Vance. If you aren't turned off by his prose style, you'll love it, and then every other fantasy writer can look dreary by comparison. Tales of the Dying Earth is the best place to start, if not his best work.
GUYS
Stormlight is 2 parts of 5.
The first 5 is Dalinar/Kaladin/Shallan
The second 5 are the characters listed there.
I love these threads because I can tell there are at least 2 other people here who have been in many of these Sanderson threads. Other than myself, we have the dude who has an irrational hatred for Wax () and the guy who has a fuckton of Cosmere infographics (). I love these threads though, because it's the only time I get to discuss this shit.
Thanks for the recommendations, user.
>Dalinar/Kaladin/Shallan
Plus Eshonai and Szeth.
Why is adhesion such a shit tier ability?
Oh, I remember. It's so Sanderson can shoehorn in a pacifist, no killing character arc for Kaladin.
This 100%
It's one of the few books I actually stopped reading because it was so dull, this is coming from an avid scifi and fantasy reader
I don't understand why it's praised so much, though I do appreciate how Sanderson finished the wheel of tune series after Jordan died, I don't think any could have done a better job really
Those are secondary mains.
The three I mentioned were primary mains.
Okay. I read "Part Five" and thought you meant the actual part five in WoK (which I just brought up to make sure there was a part five). I never paid attention to how many books he planned on writing so I didn't realize he's breaking it up like that.
If you mean dense in the sense that it's got thousands and thousands of pages worth of padding, yes it's very dense. Intelligent, not so much.
It ends in a big dumb battle, the characters are 1 dimensional as fuck, and it needs an entire squad of editors to go at it with machetes.
The whole thing reads like his long-winded role-playing scenario he came up with after reading too much Glen Cook. Which is exactly what it is.
Unfortunately.
That's an arbitrary claim on your end. All five will receive a book devoted to them, and will be the main character of a book, with flashbacks and whatnot. Therefore, all five are equal in the first half.
SA is ten books total, with a ~15 year in-world gap between the first and second half. Modern Mistborn was supposed to take place in-world during this time but it has been pushed back to after SA. However, I believe the modern trilogy will still be written during this time.
Has anyone finished Arcanum Unbounded? I downloaded it a few days ago but I won't get to it until I finish marathoning Harry Potter yet again. I hate having multiple books I want to read and my brain doesn't allow me to read more than one at a time.
Third book was great until the shit twist ending
Edgedancer was alright. That was the only novella in the book that I have not read. The planet essays were neat, good bit of new info gleaned.
>Eshonai and Szeth.
I didn't like either of their sections, so I hope they get better. I assume Szeth's will because he has Nightblood, but Sanderson is going to have to work hard for me to muster up a fuck or two about her or her people.
Started reading Name of the Wind.
I've slowly realized i've made a huge mistake
I'll be sure to look into his work, I remember reading a bit about him when I was looking into Book of the New Sun. Thanks, user.
I've read Secret History (which I just realized was in the collection) and I knew Emperor's Soul existed but I didn't love Elantris enough to read a short story. Is Lift's story the only new entry?
This any good?
Read mistborn and thought it was alright.
Though the memes are keeping me from reading more sanderson.
>eshonai
>caring about parshmen
WE WUZ SINGIN AND SHEEEIIT
Drop them while you can. It's basically the story of a fantasy fedora-tipper.
How did you like it compared to the other two? I thought Sabetha was a letdown, the story focused too much on her, the whole political party bullshit was boring, the flashbacks about the acting troupe were mostly boring, and I hated the twist. Locke wasn't the same in the last book as the previous ones, which was kind of a downer, Jean was basically nonexistent, and all the fun thieving and subterfuge that I have come to love seemed to be missing. I'm still going to read Thorn of Emberlain, but book three really was a disappointment to me.
Nightblood likes Lift. Of course Nightblood likes Lift. Fuck Lift. Hope she matures by a substantial degree when the last half is released.
Listeners were native to Roshar before humans, IIRC, and they are basically invested by Odium. Look at it this way: Stormfather -> Honor; Nightwatcher -> Cultivation; Listeners -> Odium.
Yeah.
Also here's a better overall star chart. Just noticed that all the AU artwork was posted on his website finally.
What memes? And yes, it's fantastic.
Throw that shit in the trash.
>tfw no Bitcher-like Prince of Nothing game
I can't.
It's garbage but hot garbage.
I'm already in way too deep. Too late to pull out.
Only option left is to go straight in.
>somehow managed to repress all memories of locke lamora WHAT A TWEEST
>read this and remember it
>mfw
>That's an arbitrary claim on your end
Sanderson literally uses the terms "primary" and "secondary" main character.
And Dalinar/Shallan/Kalidan are the primary mains.
I will literally quote Sanderson:
"The main characters of the first part of the Stormlight are Shallan, Kaladin, and Dalinar. Two more flashback character (Eshonai and Szeth) can be considered important characters without as many viewpoints, though in the above outline, I'd have listed them as tertiary characters in terms of number of viewpoints."
Get gud
i thought they were alright books. The first one was better than the second one.
>what memes
/lit/ keeps memeing about him for some reason.
Mist born wasn't trash it was pretty solid.
They all seem to love stormlight archive though.
I mostly read the books for the dialogue and humor, so I really enjoyed the flashback stuff.
The main plot was boring and Sabetha was really disappointing. The twist isn't AS bad when you figure out that Patience is literally lying about some of it, like Locke's attraction to Sabetha being hereditary. Remember, Locke fell for Sabetha way before he knew she was a redhead.
Reminder that Sanderson raped the Wheel of Time by dropping plot points and changing characterization.
Reminder that every part of the last 3 books you liked were all Jordan.
>Harry Potter and the Cursed Child beat Bands of Mourning as best fantasy book on GoodReads
I'll be honest, I can't even remember how much I liked Bands or Mourning, nor have I read anything else on the list, but there is literally no way that Cursed Child should have beaten anything. It was awful fucking fan fic that made me assmad for a week afterwards because I kept thinking of new plotholes.
>/lit/ keeps memeing about him for some reason.
Because he's the worst "big" fantasy author. His focus on mechanics and worlds instead of characters is annoying to many people.
No one actually thinks its good, but best fantasy can be won simply by having the most copies sold, or the most shills for a series.
Goodreads is meaningless.
You want a laugh, look up Kel Kade on goodreads.
mistborn was kind of meh, but if you don't think that stormlight is the tightest shit you can get /out/
Oh. I've never browsed /lit/, but my assumption is that anything fantasy is considered entry level garbage for plebeians. Or anything that isn't 19th century Russian poetry. Kinda how Sup Forums is for any remotely popular game.
Compared to his peers like Abercrombie and Lynch?
More like the loosest shit.
>And honestly, I would rather have a Stormlight Archive game.
fucking this
What's the War and Peace of fantasy novels?
He definitely does put a fuckton of effort into worldbuilding and his magic systems, but I think the characters in Stormlight Archive are well fleshed out. Mistborn had a fuckton of one dimensional characters, but I really like Shallan and Kaladin.
Could have been a cool basis for a videogame, enjoyable but mediocre series at best.
There was no way in hell that company was going to manage it though, and it was obvious the moment I looked them up after seeing the first announcement. Hope he didn't give them any money or anything.
Sadly its probably never going to happen now, but you never know. Maybe in a few years someone that read the series as a teenager ends up head of development somewhere and decides to give it a shot. There's a huge amount of potential for interesting gameplay in the magic system, and the setting works well for a game.
This would be neat too. I'd do an original story, set somewhere between the end of the origin story stuff and the start of the first book. Kane and Lynch style co-op oriented design with Locke and Jean pulling shenanigans in pseudo-renaissance not-Venice.
>I would rather have a Stormlight Archive game.
So you could do nothing for about 32 hours and then have a decent game for 8?
Could always just play FF13.
>set somewhere between the end of the origin story stuff and the start of the first book
Can't do that, since that's the flashback in The Ministry of Necessity and the last one in the series.
Killing giant monsters with bulky armour and a sword with no collision detection.
Monster Hunter spin-off when?
I guess. I'd consider myself a pretty big Harry Potter shit eater, and there is no way I could vote for that shit in good conscious. I just hope that Rowling slapped her name on it for money and that she didn't actually have a hand in writing that atrocity.
Not far from the truth.
They claim to hate modern fantasy but can't stop talking about it. Sorta like Sup Forums...
honestly i hope none of his books get turned into games. They would be fucking terrible as video games. You could maybe make a Stormlight dynasty warriors game, where you put on shardplate and fuck people up
Would it work? A game based on the concepts in this series?
>tfw you finished THe Great Ordeal and realize Bakker is a shit writer
Love his world and like most of his characters, but by god his prose is such tryhard wank its ridiculous
I'm glad Sanderson said that years on Roshar are longer than Earth. Kaladin is more believable at 24-25 than he was at 22.
They're not that much longer. One Rosharan year = 1.1 Earth year.
Is The First Law the essential Abercrombie experience? I already said earlier in the thread, but I have downloaded The Blade Itself, but I haven't gotten to it yet. Comparing Locke Lamora to Stormlight Archive though, I think SA is more enjoyable overall. Though it's honestly not really that fair of a comparison because the themes are so different. Lynch writes with a lot more humor, which I appreciate and I love dick ass thieves, but few things get me more aroused than complex and unique magic systems. Also, the last Lynch book I read (and he possibly made) was Republic of Thieves, which was far weaker than the other 2 books. A Year and Day in Old Theradane is top notch though.
>His focus on mechanics and worlds instead of characters is annoying to many people.
Well, that's why Tolkien sucks.
>Mistborn: Birthright
Literally what now?