Are actors ruining video games?

Are actors ruining video games?

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I want to get ruined by mads

they're not in any games.

With the new strike and union shit aren't actors costing less now?
Especially since they only really have to lend their voice to certain games.

>tfw mads will never eat you

Nah, producers are.

Kind of, yes.
I'm really sick of seeing actors in videogames. Valve did it right when they used not so famous people/random people.

>mads will never cook for you

The question should be "Are game companies ruining games by putting actors in them." Because actors are just responding to the fact that there's a role open, it's the guys making the game that made it so that one of their character models is a famous actor.

It's not the actors problem, they're just accepting jobs. Ask the game devs and companies. But it isn't anyway.

Well no I would imagine a well known actor costing more than a well known voice actor.

The only thing -if anything- the strike will do is giving new voice actors a chance to get into the market and devs/pubs trying out fresh meat.

Failed Hollywood trying to get in videogames is the problem

the games that they appear in barely classify as games so it doesn't really have any affect on games that i care about

They're letting designers become creatively lazy, so yeah probably. When you have a medium that lets you create a walking, talking character completely from scratchm, why would you just scan in some Hollywood actor and call it a day? Games aren't movies. Look what Kojima did to Big Boss and Ocelot in MGSV, wrecked two iconic characters by turning them into drunk Kiefer Sutherland and Troy Baker.

game devs shoehorning personal politics/political agendas into their work is undoubtedly destroying video games.

>mads will never cook you for you

You might not like the direction things are going but with or without you, this medium will change.

>we could pay 3D modelers and animators normal wages to create unique assets
>or we could hire an expensive high profile Hollywood actor, copy his likeness and do lazy mocap

mads is so fucking handsome, god damn

Of course it ruins everything specially when the characters are motion captured and perfectly mimick real people while everything else is animated manually

it looks like ou are seeing actual people inside the game it kills muh immersion

same shit with moves taking forever to go and end because of the motion capture which makes everything clunky and annoying

and when actors hop in so a bunch of the cancer from hollywood who can only make the same shit no matter what and its always trash

Mads has never ruined anything, fuck you for insinuating such.

What? You still have to write the character.

Prolonged production time and high costs are ruining video games.

Take Terraria as a counter example. There are a million different mechanics in it. So many ways to play it, so many ways to move around, to fight, to design things. It's really the best kind of sandbox.

Now imagine if you went back in a machine and told the developers "This needs to have Street Fighter 3 Third Strike levels of sprites. Also? Every line of dialog needs a voice. GET ON IT."

Would that game even come out? How many features would get axed onto the cutting room floor? How many more years would it take to get made if you kept everything?

The thirst to make everything look and sound like movies and shit has sliced this industry's throat. You can't even really change lines to something better, if you're too late in production. Because you've have to bring in the expensive voice actor back in. And no one has the clout to do anything about it. We'll have to reach carrying capacity, where it becomes abundantly clear "We can't keep proceeding this way anymore." And it's going to be ugly. Several high profile games will have to bomb terribly before it happens. Until then we're dealing with people's illusions of chasing the cinematic dragon.

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People believe Hayter got replaced in MGSV because union rules would rerequir him to get paid more.

The VA industry isn't even fully unionized though (At least for games I believe). The main reason they're striking to keep non SAG-AFRA voice actors out.

what a stupid opinion to have.
no wonder games have zero reputation culturally.

If by actors you mean DLC, micro transactions and DRM then yes. Actors are ruining vidya.

Pusher Mikkelsen is best Mikkelsen

Go play command and conquer and older games. Actors helped fucking build the video game industry to some extent, at least a bit. All you underage gays won't even know this though.

It's just starting again because graphics and likeness are getting so advanced it's able to be pulled off without looking stupid.

I agree it is lazy though, you have the opportunity to create a new character from scratch and new mannerisms etc but you just phone up an actor because it's easier and the common people will find it cool.

>Actors helped fucking build the video game industry to some extent, at least a bit. All you underage gays won't even know this though.
why haven't you killed yourself already? being a sheepish pleb for this long is just sad

The command and conquer series was renowned for these amazing little movie clips, the command and conquer helped shape the fucking RTS scene and basically allowed its popularity, then starcraft came etc.

Go back to playing stalker and pretending you are having fun. Autistic gay

>The main reason they're striking to keep non SAG-AFRA voice actors out.
And how! I love listening to the difference in opinion between unionized and non unionized VA's.
>Unionized: Sometimes I need to do screaming sessions and that really hurts my voice, my livelihood :c
>Non Union (tales of zestiria): Battle shouts are fun as shit, especially the ones where you have to cut down a whole sentence of Japanese into half a second. MARGOFTHADRAGON

>eat up a big portion of development's budget just to give your voice
Look how great Fallout 3 turned out to be with Liam Neeson.

C&C was just one game with that gimmick, it was sweet to have trashy movie clips in the corner, and it was novel at the time.
That however has absolutely no connections to lets say kojima's last crappy project, and if you don't see that, you're just plain dumb.

Will Mads go NUCLEAR?
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>games
nah

>dialogue/story
Definitely yes, they've ruined RPGs. Want to know why there's been a drought of good RPGs in the past 10 years (~2 console generations)? Because voice acting adds an additional cost to every line of dialogue. No more 7-8 lines of player response while talking to an NPC. No more mechanically-significant consequence from talking to NPCs. The level of complexity we saw from Planescape Torment and the experimentation from Fallout 2 (low INT runs) is completely gone.

So fuck voice actors.

>lazy mocap

if you're trying to achieve realistic motion, mocap is ALWAYS superior. Ask any animator. And you still need animators to do mocap, you fucking cretin.

t. idiot who knows nothing about the industry

I'm glad you get it.

I get so annoyed seeing everyone else not understand the problem.

The best parts of RPGs come from the developers going back and completely changing something, inserting easter eggs and things like that.

And with voice acting you JUST CAN'T. It's all what you pre-planned. And it's BORRRRRRING. You haven't felt out what your creation really is by that point.

>ywn enjoy beer this much

why even live

>used to enjoy beer this much
>found out I have a hops allergy
>can't drink beer

Valve used actors too
they were just local/Seattle based actors

>green beer bottles
Absolutely disgusting. Only brown bottles are true beer bottles.

Actors have been used in many games visually and with their voices for a long time. It's just now their likeness is very impressive that you assume it's a new thing.

So playing at Bruce Willis in the Diehard games wasnt the same? Same with the matrix games? Why are your standards shoehorned to suit your narrative. Faghot

>Only brown bottles are true beer bottles.
Just like the cocks you suck.

Will Mads ever play the /good guy/?

Go back to purgatory, Freud.

IT WAS JUST A PRANK HAN I enjoyed pic related

>So playing at Bruce Willis in the Diehard games wasn't the same? Same with the matrix games?
all god tier examples of good games. fuck off you braindead faggot, and don't post on this board anymore.

>actors

i was actually wondering why real aren't actors used more often in vidya.

making cgi cut-scenes with cgi characters is hard, expensive and time consuming, why not just record real people? cheaper, easier and will always look better.

and yet nobody does that.

I wish Ashley was my girlfriend. :(

because it's jarring switching between realistic cutscenes and video game graphics. Kojima realised this in 1996 hence why MGS is such a landmark, it's one of the first titles to use in engine cutscenes with actual direction.

Wait what? So it has to be a fantastic game for it to be a valid argument? So if Death Stranding is a shit game you can't complain about the actors being in games?

You are an embarrassment

Have you seen a Sega CD in action?

nope

Red Alert 2 has the best and most hilarious cgi cutscenes in video game history.

That explains your post, sir.

the games you've listed were just glorified adds for their movies. Games today that use A list celebs are the fucking front runners of the industry.
don't play dumb you fag.
I mean, believe what the hell you want, it's a free site. having a shitty opinion is allowed.

ALEX YOU MANIAC

YOU CALL THEM OFF

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>or we can be Bioware and do neither

i know it had been done, it was a trend for a while but nobody does that anymore

who else here /obsessedwithmadmikkelsrnsmouth/

why is this guy so popular lately?
i really fucking hate his weird angular face, there is something wrong with it

he's just a meme actor that plebs like

He is a Fennoswede.

who else here /obsessedwithmadmikkelsensmouth/

>hops allergy

well, thats weird

He's just in a bunch of stuff. Also best Bond villain

>hops allergy
You're probably just fat.

>Also best Bond villain
>plays poker 3/4 of the movie
>has some gay kink BDSM with Bond
Best Bond villain I think not.

Frog a cute.

I would suck Mads' dick and eat his ass no homo

isn't he the ghetto ass guy from The Pacific

>that part in RA3 where even fucking Tim Curry can't handle the cheese and broke character
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Old RPG's had shit gameplay so no loss.

He is way hotter than (You)

>that line
>that delivery

pure genius

>mads mikkelsen will never try to do a kung fu kick on you and hurt himself in the process

that's what i'm talking about
cutscene like this is way more original and memorable than just another wooden cgi character that took 6000 hours of work to animate