>China just passed a law that might ease our collective loot-box-induced suffering a little bit. Starting in May 2017, developers will be required to disclose the probabilities underlying infernal mystery cubes in games like Overwatch, Counter-Strike, and Hearthstone. Here are the stipulations: >Online game publishers shall promptly publicly announce information about the name, property, content, quantity, and draw/forge probability of all virtual items and services that can be drawn/forge on the official website or a dedicated draw probability webpage of the game. The information on draw probability shall be true and effective. >Online game publishers shall publicly announce the random draw results by customers on notable places of official website or in game, and keep record for government inquiry. The record must be kept for more than 90 days. When publishing the random draw results, some measures should be taken place to protect user privacy.
The West erodes consumer rights with anti piracy software, DLC, microtransactions, etc while China fights for the common gamer. What a crazy year this is.
Ryder Lee
>dude lets cut regulations on businesses, they totally won't screw people over
I swear people literally never learn.
Kayden Bennett
You think this was due to Trump's influence?
It's about fucking time we get some numbers on these microtransactions. I can't believe this like this exists but the pokemon games aren't even allowed to have a casino anymore thanks to fucking germany.
What a backwards-ass world we live in.
Ryder Ramirez
>the goverment is your friend! :) >dude let's lobby regulations to kill competitivity and force people to use our friend's businesses I swear people literally never learn
Easton Ward
>china doing something good
What is happening in this world
Hunter Bennett
As someone who has spent $400 on Overwatch loot boxes, thank you based China
Henry Price
Gambling establishments where I live have to disclose payouts, I don't see why Blizzard shouldn't.
Gavin Foster
Based China?
Jose Mitchell
Don't procreate.
Jayden Moore
The reason this happens is because China has a big problem of video game addicts.
Daniel Miller
>Dude we should babysit retards
a fool and his money are soon parted my friend, regulations only makes it harder and more expensive to run and start businesses. Why do you think lots of huge corporations promote further regulation?
Justin Thompson
Just securing their own asses to prevent anyone taking any advantage of them. This is what they've been doing for a long time now.
Evan Smith
I'd still take the washer and dryer, every time.
Landon Clark
>China >law
Samuel Gomez
wow I hated myself for $30, thanks
James Brown
How is this securing their asses?
Ryan Fisher
inb4 a 400 post thread of people who have no idea how business, economics or china works pretends to be experts on the matter.
Zachary Bell
Imaigne all of the cyanide you could have bought with that.
Leo King
Japan did that too with their gatcha mobile games, some are still trying to hide the exact percentage of each drop (they only give the percentage of chance of that quality of items to drop) but some companies that are under the eye of the japanese government like Cygames give the percentage of every single item
Kayden Butler
So what makes you so qualified, bub?
Asher Collins
Amerilards actually elected Trump so this is their golden opportunity to take the #1 spot and they're going for it. The Chinese national assembly is considering a global goodwill jester by giving away solar power panels and facilities across the world at cost. If they do that, it's fucking checkmate for Murica.
Luis Jackson
What the fuck does this have to do with trump
Noah Carter
>muh corporation is always right, I deserve to be scammed because massah needs a new car
William Price
Korea has this law too.
Carter Hill
>chincheese >not being jews
Gavin Kelly
I have 100 doctorates in economic politics not really, I'll just lurk to laugh at the retarded bullshit that will be obviously spouted ITT
Carson Martin
I only play vidya while I'm drunk which wasn't a problem before since I only played older single player games. The sound of the loot box opening is very enticing to drunk me.
Noah Barnes
>You think this was due to Trump's influence? No.
Carter Sanchez
good news. videogames nowadays feature most disgusting business practices. funny how western governments don't give a shit about that.
Austin Smith
Most euro laws technically already have this in place, they just haven't noticed Blizzard didn't follow the law already. They also legally MUST offer the choice to buy everything individually without a random roll, too.
Parker Edwards
Isn't the one in Japan non-binding but something that Japanese gacha games choose to follow by their own accord?
Colton Ortiz
Betting shops and slot machines have the odds always clear to the user dumbass
Isaac Wright
Trump is now the only world leader who actively doesnt believe in global warming, so it's most likely embarrassment tactics
Adrian Russell
They also made a legit game that wasn't a blatant ripoff of something. Check out Icey.
Benjamin Fisher
It's good that legislation is catching up, loot boxes are just another name for gambling, and gambling already has a lot of this stuff in place.
Lincoln Ramirez
>Implying global warming is real
Joseph Harris
Why would Trump have anything to do with this.
Robert James
Oh those slimy Nips already did it first?
Charles Miller
So companies from other countries will have harder time hooking the chinese people on their gambling games.
James Hughes
>based chinas >lets you make games with your favorite characters no matter who actually created them to make giant mash up ultimate games >fights for your rights to not be raped by casino urges vidya games throw at you
Maybe donald isn't such a bad guy, guys
Luis Sanchez
>new business should be able to rip people >how else would they grow?
Jose Robinson
I'm actually impressed with their censorship methods
Sup Forums could literally benefit from it. Basically what it is is you get soft banned in a way that you can still post and use the internet for whatever but anything you post is invisible to everyone.
So noone replies to you and your shit and it make you feel like shit because you're getting ignored.
Xavier Stewart
Thats silly it was already impossoble for foreign phone games to get popular in china
Chinese play chinese phone games Koreans play korean phone games Japanese play japanese phone games
The markets barely overlap
Joshua Turner
There's no doubt it's real. The question is whether it's a natural process or a man made one. The general consensus seems to be natural process sped up by man. Neither party gives a shit about science though.
Wyatt Powell
Not only that, but renewable energy sources are now cheaper than most hydrocarbons with the exception of natural gas. Purely from an economic prospective, it makes sense to focus on them.
I tried explaining to my retarded family members in West Virginia that Trump was lying - coal isn't coming back because natural gas and renewable energy sources are far more cost effective even if you reduced regulations on coal. Of course since they still live in West Virginia, they didn't listen. At least I get to point and laugh and tell them "I told you so."
Adrian Scott
>the corporation is your friend! :) >dude let's lobby regulations to kill competitivity and force people to use our businesses
Andrew Sanders
What's to stop companies from lying? How would they ever prove that they were.
Evan Ross
I literally don't see any downside to this. So the publishers will have to be a bit more transparent about how much they're fleecing their customers when they take their money. More transparency is good for the customer and this will make the industry healthier.
Carter Ramirez
>Online game publishers shall publicly announce the random draw results by customers on notable places of official website or in game, and keep record for government inquiry. The record must be kept for more than 90 days. When publishing the random draw results, some measures should be taken place to protect user privacy. >valve and blizzard have to publicly show the results of people opening crates
oh boy
Robert Miller
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Adrian Baker
People with money would run tests for its probability and payouts. It's easy to extrapolate given enough spins of the wheel
Nolan Baker
Remember that time America spent over a trillion dollars on a jet fighter that doesn't even work instead of on healthcare? Good times.
Grayson Clark
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Jason Rivera
It's not a choice between no regulation and absolute regulation my retarded friend. Also anyone who starts a new business and starts by ripping people off isnt going to have a business for very long, usually you give a good value when you are small and once you are big you start ripping people off.
Regulation protects the big guys ripping people off from the small guys that will give value and steal their costumers.
Learn something about business kid, its useful even if you dont own one.
Nolan Young
post yfw you realized the loot box meme will die in your lifetime
Isaiah Adams
They forced this in Japan a couple years ago too, with their mobile gacha for digital card scam.
Maybe they'll get around to doing it for the US and Europe too someday.
Robert Gray
>You think this was due to Trump's influence? HOW fucking deluded are you?
Colton Bell
I agree, new businesses are far more important than "people" who buy digital boxes containing unknown, digital objects. They knew that they didn't know the odds before buying crates; it's their fault.
One caveat: If the box has literally zero chance of containing the advertised weapon/skin/whatever then that is fraud. Until then, all they are promising is that their is a chance you'll get what you want and it's your own fault if you buy without knowing what that chance is.
Nicholas Jones
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Jayden Gutierrez
>while China fights for the common gamer ...while harvesting organs from living people, making abominable human-animal hybrids in the lab, instituting slave labour through the use of "re-education" camps, and generally keeping a horrible grip on it's people so that they can not think, say, or do anything that goes against the ruling elite. Oh, but you'll be able to find out what the odds of getting a butterfly knife are in CSGO now, so I guess that makes up for it!
Samuel Bailey
Their games aren't that popular in China and I think Valve would rather just not offer crates in a market than disclose their data.If this is true and goes through expect to see some big names pulling out of the Chinese market.
With that said Chinese play their own ripoff games and very few bother with western shit anyways.
Jeremiah Parker
You can continue to rip people off as long as you keep them ignorant and feed them your 'truth'.
Easton Myers
Go protest on tianamment if you care so much
Dylan Thompson
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Anthony Wilson
They can ask for source code, like for slot machines.
Xavier Fisher
The Senate Budgetary Committee makes decisions like that (As in how much money to grant our military organizations) based on how it will affect the stocks they own.
Most Senators and Congressmen make all their money on what essentially amounts to insider trading.
For the duration of their term of service and up to 10 years afterwords, an elected official should be unable to own property, invest money, or access their assets.
Gabriel Nelson
Seriously, this is how I imagine you idiots would be placated under dictators - "Oh, I can't speak my mind or question the authority, but at least I have muh Hearthstone cards!" Retards, I hate you all.
Hunter Robinson
it wont valve made it non random except for the cool item everyone wants to get
even if it has 1% chacne to drop people would still find it acceptable
card games are going to get fucked tho since it all must be necessarily random
Easton Bailey
>overwatch and dota >not popular in china
nigga
Gabriel Flores
>only pretending.
Blake Torres
if you really think people can't get away by ripping other people is not me who is retarded. You should go look at actual business. Here, let me give you a starting point: casinos.
Caleb James
I thought you should know you're retarded, and i can't believe im saying this in the year of our lord 2016, but lurk moar.
William Walker
>generally keeping a horrible grip on it's people so that they can not think, say, or do anything that goes against the ruling elite
>le social democracy is good meme
Michael Brown
literally a non sequitur.
Jacob Brown
Haven't people figuered out the droprate for Valve crates already?
Jordan Perry
there a reason dota 2 chest work like they do now.
Mason Morris
I drink your sweet libertarian tears.
Zachary Adams
Does this mean Valve will have to disclose Crate chances, too?
Lincoln Gomez
>tell wife to invest on your behalf. >vote yourself a $1 million salary for your term + 10 years (it's only fair) >nothing changes
Henry Hill
wtf I love china now???
Daniel Smith
it's literally gambling and it should be literally subject go gambling laws and regulations
Jackson Collins
leave blizzard alone, you fucking chinks. they're the only one in this fucking industry who care about quality games and their customers.
Cameron Jones
>never bought lootbox/cards with real American Dollary Doos.
Feels good mang.
Thomas Roberts
does calvin marry that chick?
Connor Allen
>card games are going to get fucked tho since it all must be necessarily random not really, physical card games control the random easily, they print a certain number of each cards then spread it on a controlled number of boxes and wala. Games will have to do the same instead of using RNG when people open the pack.
Parker Bell
>blizzard >quality
Back to /Reddit/ with you faggot.
Jeremiah Perez
>Sup Forums shit being this forced How fucking stupid are you?
Robert Jenkins
He is too redpilled to marry
Leo Nguyen
>the corporation is your friend! :) >dude let's make companies have a monopoly on some sectors so they can charge a million times more on a bad deal when other countries get the same shit for literally peanuts
you should be fucking hanged
Asher Gray
It does work you faggot
Lucas Turner
Are they going to be forced to reveal the code the game uses to determine the results?
Isaac Long
it's fun to see their delusions.
Joshua Murphy
So the comic explains how bad business practices fail and those businesses then turn to the government for money?
Jace King
Source?
Michael Wood
what is this?
Justin Hill
Neat. How many enemy planes has it shot down?
Brody Bell
goodwill my ass, are you fucking inbred or born yesterday? whatever they give away for "free" will not be free, it will either come with some sort of pact, like all those dumb niggers that gave mining land away in africa for chinese roads, or the shit will just break in a week, you're fucking dumb as fuck m8
Thomas Martinez
Blizzard is the shittiest dev on the planet. It's still a mystery to me how they release shittier casualized variants of other games and the babbies who love them eat it up every single time.
Oliver Ramirez
>falling for the most obvious falseflags
fucking neck yourself you fucking faggot, holy shit newfags these days
Jayden Reed
>it's either business OR government
Why don't you dumb fucks stop it with this stupid dichotomy. Either entities sometimes do good things, sometimes bad, with varying frequency. Both should be supported when they do something good for the average consumer, and criticized when they don't.