I have a bit of a dilemma. Lately I've noticed my games are starting to really slow down my current CPU, AMD Phenom II X6 1055T. PC is currently setup with an AMD motherboard, Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3. gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3753#ov
I've been doing some research and I know that the Intel is the better CPU, but also found out I would need to change out a few pieces just to convert over to an Intel. I found an AMD that looks like it could actually work with my pc, and would be more in my budget.
Main question for /v is, should I try to upgrade my current CPU with the one I mentioned, or just hold off and possibly upgrade to an new Intel PC when I have the cash?
Just get an Intel i5. Games don't benefit from the i7
Angel Long
Either get an i5 now, or hold off until AMD comes out with Zen and starts competing with Intel again.
Chase Parker
It was my understanding that I would need to swap to a different motherboard for that.
Ethan Wood
Wait a couple of weeks, AMD's next generation stuff is launching. They have an event to show it off on Tuesday.
That said it may not matter to you unless you run Windows 10 or use Linux. It will never be supported on Windows 7.
Jack Rodriguez
serves you fucking right for buying AMD
Luke Nelson
Sadly when I bought this PC I knew jack shit about brands and just went with the CPU the site had pre installed
Nathaniel Moore
You pretty much have to swap motherboards for any new chip these days.
You do understand that AMD is the only hope we have for reasonably priced hardware right? If they go under it'll be a long time till we get enough of the PC game library ported to run on ARM for it to be viable and PC gaming as we know it will be a weird niche retro hobby like the guys who still play Amiga or C64 games.
Benjamin Barnes
Would the CPU and Motherboard I linked work ?
Parker Sanders
You're gonna have to buy a new motherboard for any recent cpu and depending on what cpu, ram as well. As of right now Intel is unquestionably better than AMD but AMD is going to release their new cpu ZEN pretty soon. I would wait at least until then for benchmarks and prices.
Asher Davis
Your motherboard doesn't support AM3+ processors, so that processor wouldn't work with it.
Julian Ward
Should go with Intel because Intel works with emulations, but AMD is terrible.
Thank you all for the info, almost made a big mistake with that purchase.
David Evans
Wait For ZEN.
David Martin
I'd go for an i4690k and supporting Mobo at this time, not like it'll have trouble running anything released already
Alexander Phillips
The only reasonable option is to wait a couple of days for the Zen announcement and preferably big site preview tests.
If they can finally compete in single core speed, and if the Zen CPUs are better value (or you can buy a cheaper model an OC, unlike Skylake that Intel locked down recently), then there is a good argument for going with AMD. Otherwise Intel.
As much as I like AMD's graphics cards, they have dropped the ball for several years CPU-wise. It doesn't help that people who get the CPU probably also get an AMD graphics card, only for the CPU to chug because of the draw calls.
Mason Brooks
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Caleb Torres
Intel is competing with itself and whether AMD goes under or not is inconsequential ... UNLESS AMD actually starts competing. At that point it starts to matter how well they do, but they aren't really competitive on the processor market right now and they just exist for meme builds.
Remains to be seen if Zen changes that.
Noah Torres
>Intel is competing with itself
That's not very effective. Their pricing structure and product differentiation hasn't changed now in a long time and we haven't seen a significant performance improvement from them in years. If you bought a 2500k you still don't have much of a reason to upgrade.
AMD launching 8 core / 16 thread zen parts in the $250-$300 price range with single thread performance on par with Intel's will be massively disruptive and will drive prices down and force Intel to compete in a way they haven't in years.
The worry is that they'll pull the same kind of shit they did when AMD caught them with their pants down with P4 and Itanium and then they'll have a chance to catch up just like they did when they switched to AMD64.
Bentley Jenkins
Your computer is really quite old, especially if you're going to use it for high-end gaming. Based on the specification for your motherboard, the best CPU it can accept is a Phenom II CPU which is pretty old.
My opinion is that if you're intent on getting a more power computer to play games, you're going to have to buy an entirely new motherboard and CPU. The gear you've got is just too old to be on the cutting edge.
My recommendation to you, however, is to save your money and not spend it on getting a more powerful computer just to play games. If you're living with your parents, maybe you can afford that kind of extravagance but if you're on your own, you really shouldn't squander your money on getting a computer just to play games.
Your current computer can play games, just not the ones that are the most computationally intensive.
Ayden Sullivan
Yea, it's not very effective. No shit. Here's the problem, there is no other competitor. AMD isn't it. Unless they release a competitive product, this situation will persist. If they don't release a competitive product, then it's completely inconsequential if they go under.
And I ain't gonna believe anything about Zen until it's released. AMD has lied one too many times in their marketing. And by lied I mean they told everyone that they have this awesome product that does x y and z... and they actually did, it just never made it in the hands of the customers who had to make do with a watered down version of it. Like the RX 480. They have a way better version of that thing that can do like sub 100W power draw, but the customers eat up the bottom of the barrel shit that has 150W power draw. Too bad they marketed the part which you have to cough up thousands of dollars for as if it was the part that end users would receive on release day.
Carter Adams
The problem is Intel.
Intel sees AMD only as their token competitor, and they have all the power in the relationship. Once in the past AMD got the upper hand, but Intel was able to stop that through deals with OEMs to keep AMD hardware out of systems. Intel eventually lost a court case, but it robbed AMD of years worth of R&D.
Since then Intel has kept them on a very short leash and its not really clear if Zen is a success that Intel won't just do it all again since nothing has been done to prevent them from stifling competition.
Dominic Green
Intel didn't rob AMD of anything. AMD was and probably still is a grossly mismanaged and inefficient mess. They are the architects of their own downfall.
Stop shifting blame from AMD to Intel, they aren't a helpless damsel in distress. They are a faceless, soulless multinational corporation that appears to be run by gnats.
Their job is to deliver a good product, they aren't doing it. Nobody forced them to develop the abomination of an architecture that Bulldozer was. It's arguably worse than fucking Pentium 4. At least Pentium 4 was competitive enough with Athlon 64 that it was still a viable option. Not something relegated completely to meme builds.
I don't even like Intel anymore, but holy shit this victim mentality is so annoying that I almost want AMD to fail.
Josiah Hill
>AMD
Nathaniel Long
>Intel didn't rob AMD of anything. A federal court disagreed and Intel did have to pay AMD several billion dollars for their use of their market position to delay adoption of AMD64 until Intel has produced their own hardware using it.
No one can say what AMD might have been able to achieve if they'd had the increased revenue they could have gotten if Intel hadn't done that. Odds are they at least would have been able to keep Keller which means we could have seen more powerful and cheaper x86 hardware years earlier.
Its not just AMD that's a victim here. Remember when Intel decided to take away Nvidia's most profitable market making motherboards for Intel hardware with integrated graphics, and then denied them a license to make their own x86 processors? Intel apparently thought Nvidia would have no choice after that but to sell out to them, but apparently they underestimated how much Nvidia would make off of making x86 CPU based supercomputers virtually obsolete and their adoption of ARM.
Adam Harris
I don't care what Intel did to nvidia either. They are doing just fine financially, which to me signals that Nvidia knows what they are doing. AMD isn't a baby and Intel isn't there to coddle them. Intel is there to make money and so is AMD. Difference is that Intel is making money and AMD is not.
Whose fault do you think that is? It's AMDs fault. They aren't doing what it takes.
