You have 10 second to name a console that was more damaging to the videogames industry

You have 10 second to name a console that was more damaging to the videogames industry

Hardmode: No Atari 2600

Xbox 360.
>popularized paid online
>popularized shitty DLC
>popularized indies
>shit AA support

Xbox 360
>paid online
>dlc/season pass riddled games

Virtual boy

Xbox 360

Xbox 360 wasn't a console so much as a platform for accessing the Xbox Live service, but I agree with this to an extent

Did have some decent exclusives tho

So it's widely agreed now that the PS3 was the only non-cancerous console of its generation, right?

Good.

xbox 360 by a long shot, even if it had some decent games.

it's like op thinks that casual games and control gimmicks didn't exist before or will exist after the wii.

>damaging to the industry
>Virtual Boy
How so? It wasn't a success that drove others to copy it. It lived and died within a year, it was a blunder.

Less cancerous than the 360, but OP has yet to give any reasons as to why the Wii was, though I'm sure 'muh casuals' will be a part of it.

>this pile of shit originally cost the modern day equivalent of 800 american dollars

what the fuck were they thinking?

>console
it needs games to be called a console dude.

Ps2. Is a great console but it was the first that made video games mainstream enough to normies. Wii and 360 just finished the job

and what did the xbox 360 provide that uniquely fucked up the video games industry?

I think it's obvious enough

>atrocious third party support
>inferior hardware to the previous generation of consoles
>480P
>weak first party support
>waggle shit set off an industry wide fad for shitty motion controls that we still haven't gotten past
>casuals bought it and then fucked off to mobile games a year later

Technology was new and scary back then. Similar reasoning for VR shit pricetag despite absolutely not worth it.

PS2 is objectively the best console ever made you absolute mong

Except he did say it was a great console you absolute mong
>PS2 is a great console but...
>NUH UH IT WAS THE BEST UR JUST FUCKI NGEJHALOUS

WiiU
It literally had no games and they killed it earlier because of that.

The Wii had alot of Potential and great games. They could have knocked it out the Part if they did the Wii U Right

PC

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The only point you made that effected the industry was motion controls. Sony made their own unimpressive set, but then they become the norm controls for VR.

Your list is basically "things I don't like about the Wii" and most of it is untrue.
>atrocious third party support
>weak first party support

If you said "plagued with shovelware" I'd half agree with you, but the PS2 set off that trend. The Wii just got it's own variation of it all.

>Wii generation
>Endless amounts of classic titles on all platforms, great new controller concepts with games like Guitar Hero and Wii Sport, endless amount of fun
>PS4 generation
>Endless rehashes and rereleases
>Broken games
>no releases on the horizon.

WiiU didn't fuck up the whole industry tho

The success of the Wii is what led nintendo to think they could get away with more of the same and release the PeeU and the 3DS

>PC
>console

You have to be 18 or older to post here.

How did the Wii U damage the industry, again, people just posting a console because it did poorly doesn't mean it had a negative impact on the industry.

Games themselves have been on the downhill since after Gen 6.

Everyone is at fault in this gen.

I don't think the Wii really did any lasting damage. Motion controls have essentially died back out, despite Sony and Microsoft's attempts to copy them. The shovelware the Wii was known for existed before the Wii so you can't credit it with that. The atrocious online system the Wii had has been partially continued by the Wii U, but given it's marginal (at best) support, you can't say it's done any real damage in that regard. In fact, it's somewhat surprising how little effect the Wii had, it seems the next generation has followed almost entirely from the 360 and ps3, largely ignoring the Wii.

I'm 30 faggot.

Both of those were already done on the original Xbox.

It wasn't even the console's fault, though. The 3rd party developers just decided to dump massive fucktons of shovelware onto the thing.

It could have been the saviour of gaming, ushering in a new audience of keen, ready-to-learn gamers. Instead, the casual-ass 3rd party catalogue made people think that all games were just shitty flash games, and that they could get that experience on their phones.

>Ps2. Is a great console but it was the first that made video games mainstream enough to normies.
>Implying the NES and Genesis didn't do that first.
Sup Forums is truly filled with underage.

Yeah. The Wii truly harmed Nintendo, but overall games and other consoles managed to get over the motion control fad and move on.

Pong

>weak first party support
Are you retarded? Mario Galaxy+Mario Galaxy 2 are two of the best games ever made. Mario Kart Wii was great. Smash Bros Brawl was way better than 4 simply because of SSE. Then there was DKCR.

>>popularized indies
That was PC you insufferable cunt

>4 games in 5 years

It's not a console, but fucking mobile phones and their games.

Fuck the wii

>list a few examples
>"LOL that's all!?"
>list a lot of examples
>"They're all shit!"

We know your game, go kill yourself.

Xbox 360
>popularizing games to 'modern audience'

>3 mario games and Rehash Bros equals good first party support

the wii was garbage, get over it. didn't even have a fucking pikmin game

Alex, let's go with "Hello Captain Obvious" for $0.01
What is low quality shitposting?

nice meme dude
keep shitposting, I'll be playing Demon's Souls in the mean time

You should have waited a decade to buy one to keep from being salty. Now we have shitloads of games if you like glorious nippon games. Owning one also keeps you from needing a PS4 to play Persona 5.

Easy

-First release heavily sold itself on being a DVD player to attract normies.This in itself started the shit trend systems being "entertainment center" instead of being a device that played fucking games.

-First Series was fragile as fuck its almost laughable. The original design could break from dropping it onto a bead from a 1 foot drop. I borrowed my cousins for a few months and it stopped working even though I literally did nothing to it. I guarantee a fairly large chunk of the sold ps2's where people just buying new ones because the old ones went belly up.

-Pretty much gave birth to shovel ware as a general concept. Consoles have always had shit cash-in games and clones but developers started to understand that you didn't even need to try and because of the sheer volume of ps2's sold you could probably get some cash with the littlest effort possible. And by littlest I mean phoenix games littlest.

-Held back the xbox and gamecube on multi plat games. Meaning developers wanting to release games on multiple consoles had to consider the ps2 as the baseline which fucked over the other ports.

-The Normie Boom it caused. The deadliest cycle ever created was thanks to the ps2. The vast influx of new players caused many developers to steer gaming in a generalist environment that tried to dumb down games difficulty and make game as appealing to as many people as possible. When they get more people they got more money to and then try to generalize games even more to they can sell to even more people. Suddenly franchises are being axed because they don't rake in mega bucks and get put under. You can probably think off the top of your head three franchises that are either generalized shadows of their former selves or dead because they didn't sell a bajion copies at launch.

- killed the dreamcast but to be fair sega had a fair hand in that too

did the PC have summer of arcade?

Super Meat Boy and Fez all came out on 360 first

>gave birth to shovel ware as a general concept
Try Atari. Even NES would be a more acceptable answer for console to give birth to shovelware games.

the PC

what else is more annoying than PCcucks sperging about their "specs" and how if you play consoles you should go kys

fpbp

The 360's success is literally why the PS4 and 8th gen in general is a piece of shit.

Say what you will about the Wii, but motion controls are barely around anymore. For fucks sake, VR more or less is a flop already and thats the only shit using motion controls these days.

>that fag still going on about the Wii
>"hurr, those games don't count because I said so!"

You're hilarious, but you're not worthy of a (you).

Gunna have to agree, the 360 is when things started being added that changed gaming that actually bothered me. only thing sad about the wii was it was clearly nintendo giving up on directly competing.

>>popularized indies
What's bad about this?

3/10 for the effort.

This tbqh

Motion controls died before the generation they were introduced in was even finished.

Paid online and awful DLC practices will be with us forever.

Atari's shovelware caused a crash though, PS2-era for the most part got away with it, as far as I remember, NES too, but you're right about that.

This just for the paid online alone. Motion controls were a fad that came and went. Paid online is actual, damaging cancer. To play devil's advocate though, Wii did bring in a massive influx of casuals and sparked an active interest in the industry to cater to them. That was kind of shitty on the Wii's end, but even that has proven to be a bit of a dead end thanks to mobile games.

Bingo. The Wii may have been a cheap shitty cash in console but it he 360 gave birth to modern AAA gaming, the cancer that gives us rush unfinished games with no substance that needs $50 DLC to make the game just ok.

The original Meat Boy came out on PC first. Fez or Super Meat Boy even would likely not exist if it were not for Cave Story anyway

You know nothing

>On disc content

What?

"In the original Dreamcast games, by selecting the "Internet" option in the menu, the player could visit the Samba de Amigo home page using the game's built-in browser. Here, additional songs are available to unlock, all of which are taken from various games in Sega's library. The songs were not actually downloaded; accessing the internet site simply unlocked hidden songs that were already on the disc"

Couch co-op died because you and your friends grew up and stopped having sleepovers, not because of online multiplayer.

However, that doesn't excuse things like Halo 5 not even supporting split screen, which is absolutely atrocious.

>PS2 couldn't go beyond 480i

>mainstreamed physical media for virtual currency
>mainstreamed

eReader cards are so irrelevant, they weren't even released in PAL regions, and probably about half the cards weren't even released in America. I'd argue that Skylanders popularised that concept, not eReader cards. And even then, the concept is dying off. Skylanders and Disney Infinity are canceled now, Lego Dimensions will probably follow suit. Amiibo will probably stay because people like finally getting decent merchandise for obscure franchises, like Chibi Robo.

>Removed BC and other features
>Was free online then added a paid online service which would be required for the next service

It was the birth of the cancer known as the PS4.

The PS3, it convinced people it was ok to buy an overhyped console at launch with no games

How was the Wii damaging to the industry? It cannot even be said that it popularized motion controls because even it's own successor largely abandoned it in favor of the gamepad and conventional controllers.

I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I feel the PS4 is doing a lot of damage by having such poor support for exclusive titles and further perpetuating "muh graphix" fags with the PS4pro.

WII > PC