What's the point of detaching controllers? Literally no one is going to hand out that tiny little controller to their buddy to play a cheap ass 2 player mobile game with a little kick stand for the screen. NOT HAPPENING
Why didn't they just make the console one piece that docks and uses wireless controllers? You could use the same controllers if you want multiplayer, whether you're mobile with it or whether it's docked. All it would need is a microscopic cheap bluetooth antenna. It would've been cheaper to produce, no money wasted on R&D. Detaching the controllers when you want to dock it and attaching it again when you want to go mobile is the most cumbersome shit I've ever seen in a product. NO ONE will do it.
How retarded can they be? NO ONE is going to do what's in the picture.
Can't the joycons stay on when docked? It's no big deal.
Blake Johnson
Don't buy it, then.
Lucas Thompson
Yes but detaching the joycons is the whole point of the Switch, which is retarded because the same thing could have been accomplished with software alone.
Dylan Murphy
I am going to play with the controller detached. It's way more comfortable than holding a solid heavy controller in your lap.
I realized this when I played with Wiimote and Nunchuck. I could rest my arms at my side or in any damn position I want while lying down or whatever and play just fine. It's really comfortable.
Lucas Rodriguez
*bing bing wahoo*
Caleb Nguyen
But you could have done that with a wireless controller anyway and not some stupid Joycon detachable console gimmick.
Angel Lee
Now I don't have to bring an extra controller to play mario kart with my friend on the go.
William Ramirez
yeah there are only 2 things I don't like about it >it's mobile rather than a dedicated console and wil be under powered compared to it's competition >the detachable joycons will never be used outside of mario co-op and party games
Josiah Sanchez
Yes, but then you would need to bring an extra controller in addition to the Switch when you play outside your house. The whole point of the Switch is that it's both a portable and a home console.
Joseph Gomez
lol
Nathan Moore
The switch is already barely portable. You can't safely put it in your pocket and it clearly needs a carrying case. I don't really believe people are going to take this to a rooftop party and whip out the two micro joycon controllers to play with people while putting the console on a kickstand.
Sebastian Carter
This way it's optional and can be used both ways so nobody has to buy an extra controller.
RETARD.
Joshua Johnson
The added cost of the gimmick could've let you buy an extra controller for the same price anyway or have a more powerful console.
Lincoln Brooks
>detaching the joycons is the whole point of the Switch
I thought the whole point of the Switch was to have a home console and a portable one at the same time.
Elijah Gomez
>SWITCH WOULD BE $40 CHEAPER IF IT WASN'T FOR THIS!!!
You are desperate moron.
Daniel Rogers
>I thought the whole point of the Switch was to have a home console and a portable one at the same time. you could have had that with wireless controllers and bluetooth+dock egardless
Nathan White
Yes, a small, flat, carrying case. How big do you think the Switch is? You're not carrying it in a separate, Switch-exclusive shoulder bag. Throw in a controller that isn't flat and you've got more clutter in your bag.
>I don't really believe people are going to take this to a rooftop party and whip out the two micro joycon controllers to play with people while putting the console on a kickstand.
Congrats, I doubt anyone in Nintendo actually thinks this or made the Switch with this in mind, either.
Jason Gonzalez
BING
Dominic Morris
BONG
Robert Ross
It is. OP's just a moron who somehow can't understand that having an added peripheral makes it less portable.
Kayden Hall
>"let's show that you can play it on a plane" >"what about the obvious strain on the back since you need to be folded in two-'" >"yes, a real genius idea"
Benjamin Campbell
>durr Switch is too big to be portable >hurr it should come with full size bluetooth wireless controllers, because they fit in your pocket easily You can stop breathing any time
Liam Harris
WAHOO
Parker Turner
YAHOO
Blake Reyes
You shouldn't play games in public in the first place, you raging autist
Julian Scott
IT'S
Brandon Gutierrez
No one is going to give their buddy a small Joycon to play some crappy mobile multiplayer game though, that's my point. You could have the same portable console and then the docked console with wireless controllers. And if you actually did want to play multiplayer on the go, the wireless controllers still work for that.
Owen Lopez
>Congrats, I doubt anyone in Nintendo actually thinks this or made the Switch with this in mind, either. What? It's part of all their marketing materials.
Michael Perez
It is the same as playing with the nunchuck/Wiimote combo which no one had issues with. Literally the only difference from playing with a standard controller is that your hands can go anywhere you want them to instead of in front of you.
>And if you actually did want to play multiplayer on the go, the wireless controllers still work for that.
How are you not understanding that adding more gadgets reduces a product's portability? This is like scoffing at touchpads on laptops, when you could just be using a mouse, and completely missing the point. Are you purposely being dense?
Henry Ortiz
>typing all this shit
lmao
Hunter Bell
Do you want a list of stuff people do in commercials that nobody really expects people to actually do? It's just a way to stress the fact that it actually is a portable that you can play anywhere and its multiplayer capabilities to anybody who is casually glancing the commercial.
People usually don't have orgasmic faces after eating a spoon of yogurt or start flying after drinking a Red Bull either.
Benjamin Collins
>shilling for nintendo for free
Eli Reed
>"Sir, I'm I'm trying to sleep..."
Cooper Cook
They were showcasing it's portability. Literally no one goes to any sort of party with a portable gaming device, expecting to wow his friends with it, unless it's a gathering of likeminded geeks, and no developer would expect this, either. You just don't understand anything, do you?
Parker Taylor
>yah >hah >wahoo >Bing >Bing >mama Mia >so long gay bowser >Bing >mama luigi
Jackson Edwards
>user, I'm trying to be nice but I wish we could go somewhere for two seconds without you nagging me to play your Nintendo.
Justin Collins
>How are you not understanding that adding more gadgets reduces a product's portability? This is like scoffing at touchpads on laptops, when you could just be using a mouse, and completely missing the point. Are you purposely being dense? i understand it fine, but no one is going to give their freind a joycon to play it with a kickstand. so designing a console around that scenario is retarded. for that 1% of use cases, you couldve just used a wireless conrtoller. even letting you use wiimotes or whatever you want through software making it even cheaper for customers.
Bentley Collins
I think you have mental issues and need to kill yourself. Your complaint and suggestion is fucking stupid and contradictory.
Go away, don't come back to Sup Forums
Aiden Parker
No you don't understand, because 1) you're saying "I don't understand why anybody would do it, therefore nobody will do it" 2) you're still focusing on "two players with a Joycon each" scenario, which is only half of it. You can play with BOTH Joycons, either attached together or each in one hand, like with a regular controller. It is literally the scenario you personally advocate for, but somehow it's no good because you can also do something else.
Benjamin Turner
you dont need to be that offended on nintendo's behalf. it's not like they're paying you.
Jaxson Howard
The right controller has IR so I imagine it'll be used undocked. Remember shit like Wii bowling? It's just a smaller wiimote.
Lincoln James
>1) you're saying "I don't understand why anybody would do it, therefore nobody will do it" never said that >2) you're still focusing on "two players with a Joycon each" scenario, which is only half of it. You can play with BOTH Joycons, either attached together or each in one hand, like with a regular controller. i mentioned this. it requires you to attach, detach attach, detach, over and over again when you could just use a wireless controller instantly
Thomas Taylor
Unfounded rumor. Also Wii Bowling used the accelerometer, not the IR. Also also, the Wiimote had an infrared reader and used the Wii Sensor Bar's infrared emitters to calculate its position. The Switch console patently doesn't have IR emitters on it (the Wii U pad does) nor was it shown to work with a Sensor Bar, so you wouldn't be able to use it.
Nathaniel Bailey
not the guy your replying to but why is this such a big deal for you? you dont like the product, cool. but the fact that your so vehemently defending your opinion suggests that you think it matters.
did you make the thread? why did you make it? what were you hoping to achieve? someone to agree with you? and if so, why does that matter?
i dont understand.
Liam Williams
>I don't have any friends to play with so I just assume nobody in the world want's to.
Juan Nguyen
>never said that >>designing a console around that scenario is retarded. for that 1% of use cases
>i mentioned this. it requires you to attach, detach attach, detach, over and over again when you could just use a wireless controller instantly Why do you say "when you could just use a wireless controller instantly", as if the Switch prevented you from doing that? You want to keep the Joycons constantly attached? Do so. Do you want a wireless controller instead of having to hold the console? Detach them and put them together, or hold them individually, and never put them back on. Do you want both? Either go back and forth, or just buy another controller like you would have to do with any other console.
You're complaining because you want to do something that the console allows you to do effortlessly. Also you complain about stuff you don't have to do but is there as an option, which brings us back to >"I don't understand why anybody would do it, therefore nobody will do it" "never said that"
Brandon Clark
This is what posting on the spectrum looks like.
Joshua Wilson
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Robert Peterson
>NOT HAPPENING
see idk tho
maybe u don't kno what it's like 2 have frens
Blake Flores
>house party >talking to 7 and 5 Stacys > that guy shows up >whips out this industrial grade pushy repellant >stacys evaporate Switch owners should be bared from leaving their basements
Angel Perry
You mean 'barred' . 'Bared' means exposed, revealed.
Austin Nguyen
You got me. Typing and driving is hard senpai
Jason Taylor
>caring what strangers think
Really fires them neurological connections. What are you, 12?
Christian Gray
I'm gonna play Switch on the treadmill at the gym. with the two controllers detached like that.
Blake Martinez
Please pull over if you feel the need to shitpost so vigorously, Sup Forums isn't worth getting into an automobile accident over!
Camden Nelson
>He wrote 4 sentences. >OMFG STOP TYPING SO MUCH WHAT ARE YOU AN ENGLISH MAJOR?
Stay classy Sup Forums.
Henry Nelson
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Zachary Butler
If I do crash at least it won't be as bad as the switch will
Jayden Wood
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Hudson Miller
>The whole point of the Switch is that it's both a portable and a home console.
It might be marketed as that but let's not kid ourselves here, it's as much of a "home console" as plugging a smartphone into a TV is.
Kayden Harris
If the Switch flops, at least people won't die. Be safe, user.
Nicholas Edwards
>What's the point of detaching controllers? one of them works as an IR pointer they both have gyroscopes and accelerometers, so some games might take advantages of that Just like the wiimote.
Is that hard to understand?
Jackson Ortiz
>Why do you say "when you could just use a wireless controller instantly", as if the Switch prevented you from doing that? because we live in reality and not in your land of make believe where nothing has trade offs. its more expensive to produce this piece of garbage just for a 1% use case scenario when you could use that money on some other aspect of the console, like maybe making the display not trash as it currently is. get it now little guy?
Lucas Nelson
I agree.
Austin Cruz
nintendo needs to be euthanized please stop this damage
Hudson Garcia
are you gonna answer my question or just keep going on about your opinions?
Nolan Jackson
stupid question. you ask that about any OP of any thread on Sup Forums but you only do so here because you defend nintendo for free.
Cameron Ward
Stuff like this doesn't have that big of a tradeoff. Most of the stuff they implemented is technology they already had, just in a different way. You could buy external peripherals that would allow an iPad to do what the Switch can. Also the idea that they could have poured the money they would have saved by not making the console like this into another area of the console to improve it is way less realistic than the scenario you imply I'm believing into. Sure there are tradeoffs, but you can't get a screen that is 10% better just by paying 10% more.
Most of your arguments are just "I think I know how the rest of the world goes than you do", and whenever you have to address known facts you avoid the argument and act smug.
Thomas Hughes
>you ask that about any OP of any thread on Sup Forums but you only do so here because you defend nintendo for free. >you ask that about any OP of any thread on Sup Forums but you only do so here
that sentence doesnt make sense. i havent even said anything about nintendo or the console, thats not why im here. im simply asking why hes so adamant about stating his opinion to strangers on the internet. the same could be said about the people retorting him.
Hunter James
you can ask that* sorry im playing vidya in between posting
Owen Evans
not true at all. having custom detachable controllers on every console and custom electronics and hardware for each joypad and for everything to attach and detach physically together is a huge expense, not just for mass production but for r&d as well. they could have easily replaced that for a good display and just used wireless communication for the rare use case we agreed would rarely happen, all of which would be cheaper because theyre universal parts.
Jonathan Bell
are you the person stating these opinions? if not, im not interested in your reply.
Julian Wilson
Do people not realize you can use a normal controller even when the switch is undocked? It was shown in the goddamn trailer you autists
Jordan Martinez
If FIFA releases on this, it will sell gangbusters.
Connor Torres
not likely. who the hell wants to buy nintendo to play fifa?
Jordan Smith
yes, which is why wasting money making detachable controllers the central gimmick of this thing is a huge waste, autist.
Andrew Miller
>usually dont start flying after red bull Whaaaaat?
Nolan Mitchell
All those European children who want to play football and FIFA or PES at the exact same time
Sebastian Murphy
Defeats the whole point of making it portable you mongoloid.
Eli Stewart
that fanbase is on playstation. kids like that get made fun of when they buy nintendo
Dominic Smith
what? it will have its portable controls and display just the same only not detachable. youre an idiot.
Benjamin Gonzalez
the detachable controllers fit to the controller grip which you use to play the game when the switch is docked
Ryder Reyes
yea, we know. and thats fucking stupid. it would be easier, cheaper, and a better experience to just dock the console and then use a wireless controller.
Jaxon Carter
I'm a nut for collecting console/computer peripherals, so the detachable joycons are actually a really big deal for me. One of the coolest things about the system
I'm excited to see what crazy sorts of things they come up with, and what kind of games will be made to supplement the concept
Jaxson Brown
>I'm excited to see what crazy sorts of things they come up with, and what kind of games will be made to supplement the concept The fuck is wrong with you? It's literally the wiimote+nunchuck concept again. It's not new and they're not going to do anything new with it.
Ian Peterson
>No one is going to give their buddy a small Joycon to play some crappy mobile multiplayer game
Why are you comparing console multiplayer games (NBA 2K, Mario Kart, Splatoon) to mobile games?
Ayden Wilson
>people complain about tablet gaming because of the lack of an input solution >people complain when Nintendo makes a product addressing that issue
Sunrise, sunset
Connor Green
Why has nobody mentioned the Pro controller in this thread?
OP's entire point is moot due to the existence of the Pro controller.
Xavier Torres
>have to buy an extra controller
Colton Lopez
Wii U had a pro controller too and it had terrible support. Basically no launch game supported it, not even NSMBU which only received support in a patch many months later. Many other prominent Wii U titles are either missing support or only support it as a second player+ controller
If it's sold separately and not supported de facto by all software, then it'll suffer the same fate. I don't know how the fuck you can sell a controller for a console that isn't supported by all software. Only Nintendo can be so idiotic, it's like part of their brand image
Kayden James
>implying they won't have a Pro controller SKU
Also even if there's no SKU, the OP is complaining about the inconvenience of the joycons when traditional controller schemes will exist.
Isaac Hill
The standard controller is fucking garbage.
Jason Allen
which is why multiplats might as well not exist on it, from bad controls to low hardware specs (DQXI)
Grayson Russell
How the fuck are u going to play NBA with half a joycon
Jordan Hall
>low hardware specs (DQXI) what does DQXI have to do with low hardware specs
Hunter Reyes
the problem there is that the are no buttons on the pro controller that the gamepad doesn't have so there was always going to be pro support eventually unless the touch screen was vital, which it isn't for most games
i've never played NBA but what input does it need that 1 joycon doesn't have?
Jose Smith
>Basically no launch game supported it >Many other prominent Wii U titles are either missing support or only support it as a second player+ controller
Only the most gimmicky games like Nintendo Land, Zombi U and Game & Wario required usage of Gamepad.
Quite a few titles support Pro controller out the gate as well, including:
CoD Black Ops 2 Sonic & Sega All Stars Racing Transformed Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's Edge Tank! Tank! Tank! Warriors Orochi 3
Owen Cruz
>the problem there is that the are no buttons on the pro controller that the gamepad doesn't have so there was always going to be pro support And yet the same logic didn't apply to the Wii U
Yeah, I thought it would too, but Nintendo is *that* stupid
Matthew Hughes
Look at all those multiplayer only games. Now consider that this list isn't all Wii U games.
The Wii U Pro controller was poorly supported. If you buy a Xbone or DS4 controller, you didn't have this problem about wondering if your games will support it or not.
Stop trying to revise history to fit your shilling agenda.