I purposely avoided this place today. What's the verdict...

I purposely avoided this place today. What's the verdict? Are we predicting that the Switch is aimed at being a 3DS successor, or that it'll make up for clock speeds elsewhere?

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It's just a box we buy to get to the games. Switch will sink or swim due to its games, which we have to wait jntil January 12 to see.

We know absolutely nothing other then that there is a tegra in the thing. Everything else is rumor until confirmed.

>it'll make up for clock speeds elsewhere
Since we already know what CPU cores are used and the size and architecture of the gpu, there is no "elsewhere" architecture and clock speeds are all you need to know for the performance of a system.
It's not surprising though, the difference between a pixel c at idle and load is about 10 watts which means the SoC alone at it's usual clock speeds consumes around as much power as a small tablet under full load, nintendo had to do somehting or they'd have a 2-3 hour battery life on their hands.

I'm keeping an open mind. If it ends up being a successor to the 3DS then I have no problem with it.

3DS had a load of great games, and Vita had the potential but no support.

People are concerned about third party support and it probably won't get the modern titles, but if it can become a port machine for older third party games, I'll be happy.

>Since we already know what CPU cores are used and the size and architecture of the gpu
Source?

Why what's special about today?

You know the source, you're just in denial about it.

Nintendo's words is that it's a console first and foremost. Meaning it will be going against PS4 and Xbone.

The rumor on DF sourced from venturebeat confirming a devkit rumor earlier this year?

it will make up for clock speeds with nostalgia goggles

>the Switch is aimed at being a 3DS successor
Are you dumb? Kimishima already said there's going to be a separate 3DS successor when asked at the Investor Q&A.

Yes.

assuming the rumours are true it'll "make up" the clock speed with the fact that the handheld resolution is only 720p instead of 1080p when docked

Console not living to hype expectations because of leak

The new one is not sourced from venturebeat

i don't remember anyone being hype for muh clock speeds

It is impossible to "make up for clock speeds". The Switch is going to be an underpowered tablet, it has to be an underpowered tablet otherwise it would cost like $500 or more.

Leak?

>rumors are only true when they line up with my confirmation bias
This board is embarrassing

Well no one was expecting it to drop the clock rate by like 60%
Also it restates maxwell tegra and cortex A57 cores and add's a lower clock cpu to the mix.

720p is roughly 45% of the performance requirement of 1080p. There no reason to run the clocks at full speed for when the resolution isn't needed.

>Rumors are only rumors when my precious nintendo is being bullied
I didn't see any of you "confirmed sources" fucks in the "The switch will be more powerful than the xbone" threads.

Everyone was hyped for Nvidia's vague "world's top performing graphics cards" blogpost though.

Nobody's even saying anything substantial, just that it'll be a massive flop and put Nintendo out of business.

But I'm a Nintendrone dicksucker so I'll just wait until the January event before I start bitching about the Switch.

Weaker, similar or stronger than Wii U?

Definitely stronger than the Wii U. But it's likely to not be at xbone level which people were hoping.

It's still believed to be stronger than the Wii U but with the lower CPU clocks, not by a significant margin.

I have a PC so I'm not too concerned with how powerful it is. If it means I can play Monster Hunter and Pokemon on the big screen I'm sold.

Alright boys, repeat after me!

GRAPHICS DON'T MATTER! IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT THE WII U WAS A FAILURE, THAT MOBILE WAS A FAILURE, THE SWITCH WILL DO INCREDIBLY! MARIO COLOR SPLASH, METROID COOP FPS (FOR FUCKING 3DS XD), AND ANIMAL CROSSING: PHYSICAL DLC BOARDGAME EDITION PROVES THEIR DEDICATION TO QUALITY VIDEO GAMES!

Oh yeah speaking of baseless rumors. Pokemon.
The rumors of the switch's specs are about as credible as the pokemon for switch rumors, we don't even have a confirmation of a game let alone the "main series entry" some rabid fans have been touting.

>Well no one was expecting it to drop the clock rate by like 60%
I did. Well not 60% but somewhere there. Thing is they never had a Tegra X1 on a dedicated portable gaming device. The only other portable device was Google Pixel C. And the other one, Shield TV is a console, not a handheld.

>but with lower cpu clocks
lmao nintendo needs to just fucking kill themselves already

Except it's not because it's mobile. A PS4 is a box that you buy to play exclusives games, and an Xbox One is a box you buy to let Microsoft know you have a sub-90 IQ. This thing, I can play at work while my CNC machine is running.

All this could have been done on the Wii U.

Yeah kind of like the 'Nintendo's next console will be half portable game console, half living room console' rumor?

What the fuck is the point of the Switch? It's another weak piece of shit, except now more portable? Fuck off Nintendo I just got a wii u last year

I blame Iwata

That rumor had good grounding from Iwata's posts and the leaked image of the devkit.
We all had a fairly good idea that it was going to be hybrid tegra machine, but not in what way it was going to be though.

The Switch console is literally just the handheld itself that can be connected and viewed from your TV. Think Vita + Vita TV combined.

True, but 300 MHz for 720p and 770 MHz for 1080p is not great considering 256 cores

Eh, okay. I'll probably get it because I like Nintendo games and the 3DS was fucking great, but I can't see this being super successful

it literally operates at 40% of its power in handheld mode

if it's really a handheld first and foremost that wouldn't be the case

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It most likely won't be successful, it's nintendo.

It's still massively underpowered no matter how you look at it, such a shame, the tech geeks loved how powerful it might have been and the normies loved the idea of full zelda and skyrim on the go, wonder if they will still when it looks and runs worse than other console's versions

I'm not buying the specs shit just yet, but it's going to depend on the games announced and whether it sells or not.
>Switch is successful, the 3DS is eventually phased out
>Switch fails, Nintendo pretends it was never supposed to be a successor to the 3DS and makes a new handheld while dropping support for the Switch
We won't know for sure until late 2017, by then the first batch of third party games will already be out and we'll have a better picture of where this thing is going.

720p=900k pixels vs 1080p=2.1m pixels
A 43% performance requirement of 1080p.
It lines up.

Xbone level wouldn;t help. Didn;t help in the PS2 days and it sure didn;t help this gen with PS4 massive uptake rate.

It's all about not being a pain in the butt to develop software for like the Wii U failed at.

>It's all about not being a pain in the butt to develop software for
That's the whole reason why Mark Cerny was put in charge of PS4 development.

as long as it can run melee hd i'm fine

>less powerful than Xbone
>supposed to run Dark Souls 3 at a rate Fromsoft is happy about

One of these things is not like the others.

Melee is a meme game played by autists who can't move on.

The handled mode is just as powerful as PS3/X360.
Skyrim should be able to run on it.

But as the xbone has demonstrated it's also about having similar enough performance to the successful competition to siphon off ports.
Using the same CPU as the ps4 saved xbone buyers a second wii u, there's like 5 games total available on ps4 that aren't also on xbox one even though the xbox isn't doing much better than the wii u.

>FromSoft
>From a director who thinks Blightown is acceptable

Its been confirmed by masuda pokemon will be on the switch in the future

In other words, either journalists or Fromsoft are lying. If you're a fanboy, it's the former. If you're a nintendoomsayer, it's the latter.

Of course, you could also just ignore that fact entirely. It's really easy to shitpost when you just ignore all contradicting evidence

>Xbox isn't doing much better than the Wii U
It was the highest selling console for a few months straight
The vita still sells more than the Wii U

>move on to an inferior game

Really? I haven't been keeping up with xbox news though it does make sense they've been releasing some pretty great deals and are finally utilizing their cheaper hardware on the market with lower prices
Oh and the wii u has stopped production i guess.

Considering that they think 10 fps is acceptable, I say sure.

Smash 4 is better

Thing is both could be true. Dark souls 3 could being running on switch but at lower resolution/graphical settings.

If there is going to be a port, then there's no problem getting the right framerate. It's a port, you can do anything in a port.

Funny how skyrim gets shat on all the time, and even in a state where it can be modded to the extreme. But if Nintendo might possibly allow you to play it, completely vanilla, at ps3 level graphics, on a tiny screen, it's the talk of the town.

You mean this?:
>"Without a doubt, Nintendo Switch is the future, but we will have to wait until it goes out on the market and study how it can benefit from Pokemon. When people have it, we will have too see and deeply study how to use it so we can think how the next entries of Pokemon are going to be and how the saga can benefit from the new console."
Fucking launch pokemon mainline game confirmed guise.
I wish I was kidding but this idea has indeed been coming up in switch threads a lot.
I once posited the notion that it would probably be a launch spin off game and had like 3 people jump on me about how i was wrong and stupid

fpbp

I don't care all that much for skyrim but if the enhanced edition can be played on a tablet/handheld it would still be really cool

Too bad it will be the same 360 looking edition

Is the Switch really weaker than a Wii U?

No, it's slightly above power, rumors say it has two modes, one for docked and one for portable, it's slightly more powerful than a Wii U in portable mode and still less powerful than an Xbone in docked mode. Only difference this will see in games is MAYBE they will be in 1080p in docked mode.

>mfw the switch is just a weaker Wii U
>mfw I told a bunch of faggots this last week and they couldn't comprehend how a portable can't be as powerful as a current gen console

Should I buy the first edition switch and not update it to get in on the early hacking/unlocking scene? Or wait for some improvements and risk not being able to unlock it for a while?

I imagine one of the first things will be unlimitting the processor when not in docked mode, and it will probably make a really good emulator

>People actually believed they'd be getting a handheld more powerful than an xbone/ps4 for £200

I will never understand these people

itll make up for the clock speeds in innovation

>Wii U
>current gen

>B-B-BUH MUH NEW TECH MEME

More current than the Switch :^)

Ive been saying for a while it should be around $400-$500 on release, catering to poors is a bad design choice. I hate having to suffer because everyone wants it to cost less than a day's wage

Yes

>le compare clock speed meme

Don't get me wrong, i like what the switch is doing in terms of its gimmicks, i just think people were being completely unrealistic expecting it to be capable of ps4/xbone tier performance.

Ultimately, it'll sell fuck tons because of it's price tag and nintendo will make bank on it, the wii was only around £190 when it first came out and look how well that sold, Nintendo are looking at the profits and not the performance. (Which isn't a good thing, it just means they're attempting to be somewhat savvy with getting profits but falling short)

>I purposely avoided this place today
Why? So you could start your own thread about shit that's already been discussed over and over just for those sweet (You)'s?
Fucking faggot

>Instantly believing SUPER TOP SECRET "sources"

I'll wait until January thanks.

Assets in the pokemon games strongly point at a title being added on a more powerful console; how detailed the character models are, and how every pokemon has a walking/running animation

Source or you're a lying whore

B-But these super secret sources have been confirmed by other super secret sources!!

So how are we doing the comparison?

It's more or less Nintendo stating their new direction I think, especially since Nvidia implied it was not just a one time partnership between them.

You believed their handheld console hybrid using Tegra X1 just 2 months ago. You also spammed all those PS4 vs Tegra X1 (fully clocked) video as well.

I realise i'm on Sup Forums but it gets boring seeing so many people attempting "GOTCHA NINTENDRONES" on these threads when nothings confirmed

>MFW if these sources are for once legitimate and nintendrones are on suicide watch

completely different architecture
The hardware is adequate I guess but nothing amazing and obviously it can't match the horsepower of a dedicated system

>You believed
>You Spammed

No I didn't.

what you missed?
typical Sup Forums behavior of course.
>IT ONLY WILL HAVE 1 TERAFLOP LMAO NINTENDO BTFO
>NINTENDO IS GOING TO BE THIRD PARTY BY 2018 TOP KEK
>>sonnyggers being this autistic and taking rumors as fact
>FUCKOFF PEASENTS JUST GET A PC

By considering that the Wii U was running a low/mid-end GPU from 2007 and a potato processor, while having a faint remembrance of a memory and the Switch has a processor + low/mid-end gpu and 4gbs RAM all from after 2012 (aka it's next to impossible to build soemthing weaker than a Wii U using those things).
Comparing clock rates among different systems is stupid.

idigitaltimes.com/nintendo-switch-will-not-replace-3ds-which-will-have-new-handheld-successor-future-564513
Supposedly he said it at an investor meeting, but it hasn't been verified

Your kind did

Different architecture but a FLOP is a FLOP and 307Mhz on a Tegra 2 is pretty much the same as the Wii U both sitting around 180 GFLOPs.

Having a modern shader pipeline will mean it will be easier to get that actual performance but people seem to misunderstand that APIs, shaders and engines somehow overcome these paper specs and that simply is not true.

I'm a shareholder and he absolutely did not say anything like that.

Nintendo also said that the 3DS wasn't going to replace the DS, that the DS wouldn't replace de GBA and that the Wii U wasn't going to replace the Wii.
They just want to dupe people into buying WiiUs and 3DSs this xmas.
Because they're jews.

>"N-Nintendrones are all the same!"

What are you even talking about? Because someone else posted something that sent your autism into overdrive every person in these threads did?