HAHA WHAT A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT Nintendo is fucked and nintenbabies are too busy crying in denial that their system isn't gonna be good enough for third parties again.
at least you'll get to play all your favourite Mario games again right? because third parties don't matter right??? it's all about the gameplay and not the graphics and hardware right?????
rip in peace nintendo you were never good enough to be a modern game company
>Buying Nintendo consoles for third party >In the 21st century
Jayden White
>Rumor
Easton Rivera
>Eurogamer leak already corroborated by several others
I bet you denied the hybrid leak too
Oliver Turner
>he can't wait for january
Bentley Gomez
>Wii U has no third party support >worst selling console ever
a rumour that comes from a source that already has a good track record leaking switch news before. knowing how stupid Nintendo is this is probably their doing
Joseph White
>Buying a nintendo console for graphics let alone 3rd party games
Are you retarded
Elijah Powell
>I bet you denied the hybrid leak too I didn't deny it, but I wanted it to be false. All I hoped for was a no-nonsense home gaming console. Nintendo failed to deliver.
Carter Collins
That doesn't make it true, still a rumor.
Jayden Brown
just saying the console should have good hardware if it wants third parties on board, seeing as that's why the Wii u was a piece of shit. no good hardware means no major third parties AGAIN which means no games just like the Wii poo. just because third parties are on board now doesn't mean theyll change their mind later. i bet dark souls 3 will run like absolute shit
Gavin Scott
>Wii had no third party support >Best selling console that gen I also don't give a shit about their sales, I'll buy their games while I can and should Nintendo die then so long and thanks for all the fish.
Christian White
>GPU speed 307.2MHz This is how you do retro properly, you go with actual clock rates from 2004. I hope we get to re-live the glory days of video games before everything turned to shit.
and its pretty much a handheld device, are people not hyped for this?
Kayden Ward
Third parties don't want to be on Nintendo systems as they know Nintendo games will trump them in sales as they always have.
Grayson Wright
>ARM based hardware >Still 10 years more current than 3DS' GPU >Runs Vulkan >Uses actual 64-bit CPU this time.
Nicholas Nelson
yeah but the Wii was just a casual machine that lasted only a while till rooty tooty point and shooties and smartphone games took over. they have nowhere left to go but to make a decently powerful console to garner third parties but they didn't. third parties are a big deal in the market, no one is gonna buy the switch if it's not gonna get the big games. people are over the whole "buying Nintendo for Nintendo" thoughts, nintendo needs to offer people more options.
Leo Perry
Didn't the devs say they made the trailer on a gaming PC?
Nathan Ortiz
R U M O R U M O R
Sebastian Cooper
>Buying Nintendo consoles >In the 21st century
Wyatt Turner
that's not switch footage. the dev team said they don't have a switch dev kit yet. you're basing this off of something that's not on switch yet.
the denial is strong in this one
Julian Jones
Being underpowered pieces of garbage never stopped the PS1 or PS2 from getting third party games.
Justin Gray
>64-bit CPU >only has 4GB of RAM power
Adam Barnes
The GPU is about the same, or better, than the XB1's when docked. Switching to 720p when undocked makes up for the power loss.
Pretty good for a handheld if you ask me. And the price will be $250 tops.
Parker Bennett
from a source that holds credibility for leaking the switch before it was announced.
just sayin'
Nicholas Ramirez
Now, a good question.
Tegra has a dedicated VRAM or uses the system RAM?
Ryder Lewis
but that was back then. the ps4 sells amazing and is popular with devs because of its power.
Jason Turner
well if the footage is nothing like this on the switch, the devs would have screwed themselves over.
Aiden Gomez
But it did for PeeU lmao
Tyler Jackson
I still remember back in the 2002's when devs were flaming Sony for the POS hardware the PS2 had. Naughty dog dev said "lazy devs just want to throw their code and have it running. It doesn't matter, the console's selling and they'll have to put their games on it"
Gavin Gonzalez
Skyrim is supposed to run on this trash? What a joke
Parker Brown
They weren't 5-10 times weaker than contemporary systems though, they were still in the same ballpark.
Nathaniel Brown
they're marketing the switch has a HOME CONSOLE. Even kimishima calls it a home console. if this was their next handheld sure but for their next home console this is pathetic.
Easton Phillips
It doesnt even need that much power to outperform the PS4. Its screen is like 20 times smaller than a 40" screen so it needs likes 20 times less GPU speed to give the same quality
Joseph Ross
Who says the Switch will be 5-10 times weaker?
Grayson Morris
Skyrim runs on an A8 APU, i see why not.
Andrew Watson
The original Wii was just a fad no real gamers took seriously and they were too stupid to see that. This one could flop as badly as the Wii U.
Isaiah Powell
why is this unconfirmed rumor being spread by legit sites when it doesn't make technical sense on any level, not even by nintendo standards?
nvidia tegra based parts don't need active cooling and certainly not at those clock speeds.
Samuel Flores
>If everyone says it, must be true Guess Trump is LITERALLY Hitler.
Jordan Anderson
the actual specs that got leaked by eurogamer
Jaxson Mitchell
The WiiU is literally a gen behind and this is barely better after 4 years, the PS and PS2 are terrible comparisons. The PS was better than the Saturn and the PS2 was better than the Dreamcast. Meanwhile the Switch can't beat a 3 year old console refresh that's currently selling for $250 and is being compared to Androin microconsoles instead of traditional consoles. The difference is night and day.
Actually the Saturn is a good example, look how many PS and PC games ran and looked like absolute fucking garbage on that platform.
Aiden Wilson
Because that is how news work today.
100% Clickbait, 0% actual news.
All rumors are true as long it generates money.
Tyler Hill
I don't think it's pathetic. Everyone expected it to be on-par with the XB1, and it'll be, so what's the commotion all about? Nobody buys Nintendo consoles for third party games anyway and this thing will be backed their entire catalog. It could be running on potato chips for all they care.
Mason Myers
I think the graphics are horrible but since I do enjoy their games I just set my mind to ''It's an old console with games I never got around to play'' and that works for me. Even those that think this hybrid was their best choice should have the decency to acknowledge it's still underpowered.
Jaxon Scott
care to explain your reasoning why this doesn't make sense for Nintendo?
Sebastian Perry
Underpowered doesn't even begin to cover how shit the hardware is in the Switch. The slowest Maxwell 2nd gen card has 768 CUDA cores, operating at ~1188 Mhz boost and likely higher. That gives you roughly 1.82 TFLOPS of theoretical compute throughput, so about the same a a PS4 and a bit more than XBone. With GDDR5 memory at 7 GHz, on a 128 bit bus with a bandwitdh of ~105 Gb/s. The Switch has a 256 core mobile part running at either 307 or 768 Mhz, giving a best case scenario of 0.39 TFLOPS or worst case scenario of 0.15 TFLOPS. With a pitiful 25.6 GB/s of bandwidth.
It's about 5 to 10 times less powerful than the lower midrange 2012 level hardware in the PS4.
Connor Price
>The GPU is about the same, or better, than the XB1's when docked. >Being this delusional
It's a Tegra X1, it's less than half the performance of the Xbone. When docked it runs at 768MHz (due to cooling issues, which is a big problem for Tegra devices). It only manages to beat out the WiiU's GPU.
Bentley Rogers
Retards can't tell what's real or fake anymore. Real things are fake and rumors are "leaks"
Leo Mitchell
It's a XB1 with twice the CPU cores.
Carson Bailey
But then look at the PS3, several publishers threatened to abandon the console until the relaunch managed to save the console. If your system is hard to program for you damn well better have the sales to back it up. The PS2, the PS3 (initially) didn't and neither did the Saturn or WiiU.
Leo Sanders
except third parties mattered when the Wii u wasn't selling good enough cause Wii u got no games
Thomas Lewis
>it doesn't make technical sense on any level,
Except it does. Tegra SoCs are well known for their thermal issues, you solve thermal issues by reducing clock speeds.
I'm honestly astounded at how retarded people are believing a tablet chip can out-perform a modern console. Tablet chips in 6-7 years maybe, but not today.
Dylan Butler
because it's slow even by their standards further it's entirely nonsensical by tegra standards, even for a custom chip. you'd have to be litetally retarded to run a tegra part with active cooling at those clock speeds. this isn't even a point of contention, it's plain as day and dumb too.
Kevin Adams
It didnt, the reason the WiiU bombed so hard is that Nintendo fucked up. They took too long to release games, and the games they had out where not enough. The WiiU had no original Zelda game on it for example, it's pathetic.
Do you honestly think a console with Pokemon, Animal Crossing and Monster Hunter in HD won't sell well? Third party doesn't matter, it didn't for the 3DS.
Camden Miller
>Everyone expected it to be on-par with the XB1, and it'll be,
No it won't, it's nowhere near the Xbox One in terms of GPU performance. Thinking it is is just extremely wishful thinking.
Alexander Martinez
He is
Michael Wood
no they aren't. when they throttle they're still way fucking faster and you're talking about a larger device outputting a higher resolution with passive cooling. and then, that's with poorly optimized android crap. you literally have no clue what you're posting about.
Elijah Reyes
Sup Forums go home pls
Chase Perez
This is some next-level delusional thinking right here.
>No they aren't [known for thermal issues]
Moron, the entire reason why they didn't take off was due to their thermal issues. They did well in benchmarks, but not that much better than contemporary Qualcomm or Apple SoCs.
>and you're talking about a larger device outputting a higher resolution with passive cooling.
Which, considering it's also supposed to be a PORTABLE device, tells volumes about how shit the thermal properties of the Tegra are.
Look up the Tegra X1, and compare the STOCK chip to what the Xbox and Playstation have. Then imagine UNDERCLOCKING that chip. It's a fucking tablet with a controller strapped to it. Just because it's Nintendo doesn't mean it's fucking arcane supertech that would normally catapult SoC development forwards five years.
Mason Brown
I bet you don't even know what that means
Nolan Garcia
>Everyone expected it to be on-par with the 360, and it'll be
Fixed that for you. Switch is almost identical to the Shield Android TV, and it runs games like ass.
Kevin Johnson
Xbox one GPUs speed is 853MHz Xbox one CPUs speed is 1.75GHz
what this means is basically the switch is just a weak ass console
Gavin Roberts
>muh clock speed go compare the pentium 4 processor to an i7 and tell me the pentium 4 is more powerful
Michael Watson
>Moron, the entire reason why they didn't take off was due to their thermal issues didn't take off? the k1 is one of the most successful android tablets which routinely sells out on amazon. it has no blatant thermal issues and even when throttled runs faster and that's with a lezs efficient kepler chip. pixel c with maxwell is much faster and runs at 2560x1800 screen resolution
>Which, considering it's also supposed to be a PORTABLE device, tells volumes about how shit the thermal properties of the Tegra are. you're too stupid to reply to. the tegra soc in these devices has more cpu cores running at a faster speed along with running unoptimized software at a higher resolution all while maintaining higher clock speeds while throttled on a PASSIVELY COOLED device.
nothing you posed can come even remotely close to contending with the irrelevancy of the numbers in these rumors.
Adam Collins
He is baiting you user, nobody can be that retarded.
Luke Perry
Just so you know, the Switch isn't using a stock X1 that's underclocked.
Lincoln Parker
>Tegra has a dedicated VRAM or uses the system RAM? all of the previous versions have used shared memory but some ARM devices have had dedicated VRAM like the Vita, or eSRAM like the Apple SoCs.
Jose Price
1 question please
What is the best video game console for a gamer who only plays to videogames rated E for Everyone in the ESRB?