Worse cpu clock than a PSP when mobile

>Worse cpu clock than a PSP when mobile
>Worse cpu clock than the n3ds when docked
Nintends to make one a bit nervous, doesn't it?

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>nearly 2016+1
>believing emily rogers' lies
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clocks are the only thing that matter when it comes to CPUs

Is this bait? This is bait. I'm taking the bait.

Other things that matter other than frequency :

-instructions per cycle
-number of cores
-cache

To name a few

The SNES had a slower CPU than the fucking Game Boy. What's your point?

the point is that switch is so perfect that sonyggers have to scratch the bottom of the barrel for any lame excuse to shitpost

>user so autistic he forgets the word for sarcasm since he doesn't understand it and substitutes "bait" in its place, as it's an easy word he understands.

Even in handheld mode it's something like 7 times the GPU processing of the Vita.

Bait, sarcasm. A game of ssssssssssemantics.

And with actual games.

>the point is that switch is so perfect
Nice grammar, retarded fuck

>the switch is so perfect
(You)

You mean ports?
The Vita will likely have a larger library than the Switch user.

So it will be an underpowered console that can't play modern games?I imagine the third party support will be shit once again, meaning 3 months for one game to release.

The hardware is shit by itself, there is no need to down play it even more as a false flag.

>Sony deflection
Ever. Fucking. Thread.

that post was obvious bait

>cpu clock.
its all about GPU clock user.

We'll have to wait and see, if the battery life is good then this could be fine, it's like if the 3DS and WiiU were inter-operable, one device that could play Pokemon, Zelda, All the Marios etc.

Plus underpowered might not be the right word, the thing is likely around 1.1GFlops in console mode, making it only about 40% behind the PS4, that's rather impressive for a hybrid device like this.

It really depends how third parties find it.

If all the weeb games want to be on the best handheld this is likely where they will go (if it picks up well)

NINTENDO IS DOOMED!!
WE WON, FELLOW SONYKEKS!!
HAHAHA

gpu is shit

Except for the CPU bottleneck, which is the exact problem with the PS4 and Xbone

Allow me to pontificate on why Nintendo has fucked up: Japanese culture.

Japanese culture, especially business culture, relies on seniority and tradition. Nobody questions the boss. It is the way it is. Nintendo pulled a miracle with the Wii, are successful with the handhelds, and ironically these successes will be their failures.

The Wii has given them hubris. They gambled big and it paid off huge, and because of this they think they're geniuses and know what the gaming industry wants before anyone else does, when in all honesty they just got fucking lucky. Their handhelds provide a huge safety net so failure goes relatively unaccounted for. At any other company the Wii U would mean heads would roll.

And so, believing they know the gaming industry better than anyone else, they disregard criticism and fail to understand what people actually want: GAMES, NOT GIMMICKS.

I say this as a Wii and sorely disappointed WiiU owner. The WiiU has great potential, but they decided to move on to the Switch. The sorely underpowered Switch will fail to garner 3rd party support and be another flop. WiiU owners having been burned will be hesitant to buy. How hard would it have been to wait a few months for the X2? What the fuck Nintendo? You guys need to understand your audience! I want to play games, that's all, it's not that hard.

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>The WiiU has great potential
clearly not since the first 3 years didn't do anything for it. i agree with you that people want games but that just highlights the fact that wii u's games weren't good enough for the general public. it has a bunch of niche games like gamecube so it sold like the gamecube. it's no wonder they're abandoning it for the switch, they've squeezed all the sales they could out of it, it's a good move.

I'd argue the lack of a decent library is why the WiiU failed. There are some great games for WiiU, but just not enough. Where was the fucking Zelda game? The Metroid game? HD remakes do not count. Practically no 3rd parties, few exclusives.

They could have done so much more, but their business practices snubbed third parties and they failed to develop enough in house games. They were fucking lazy. The WiiU hardware is great, MK8 looks amazing. No, it's not the most powerful, and you aren't going to get hyper realism, but for optimized games it's fantastic.

what business practices? they were happy for 3rd parties to sell games on there thats why the wii u got watch dogs, cod, asscreed and batman. they didnt sell so 3rd parties abandoned it. the console needs to sell on 1st party software first for anything else to be successful. the failure of the wii u is in its software of few and far between niche games

>The WiiU hardware is great

I love my Wii U to death but you're kidding yourself if you think the hardware is acceptable. It is terrible, even for the time. CPU is woefully underpowered in-comparison to other consoles on the market which also hurt it with engine compatibility, not to mention graphical tech that was only slightly better than the previous generation consoles, and a tablet that made the whole thing unprofitable.

Context my friend. It is great for what it is intended to accomplish. MK8 is the best example of a great looking game that doesn't try to be gray and brown realistic and runs flawlessly. It's also fun.

If I want superior graphics I have a PC. Nintendo was never about realistic super hi fidelity graphics. Most of the successful games had a particular art style.

The tablet had potential but they didn't really push it, look at NintendoLand. Basically the WiiU in a nutshell: abandoned potential.

When the Switch gets a mainline Pokemon game and sells 500k a month and is sold out for years is anyone else going to spam the pics of these threads on Sup Forums? I'm hitting PrtSc like crazy.

...

Just like how the wii u would sell 18M in a month thanks to Mario Kart 8

You guys can't be that delusional

I am, but only to laugh at those that think this thing will do good.

>underpowered console
I didnt think we could stoop so low

I'm not even talking about graphical potential, the hardware for the Wii U is AWFUL. A low-power CPU forces the OS to be the slowest of the competitors, it has the worst storage, the worst architecture, and no fucking ethernet port.

The hardware for the system is awful.

>implying mhz matters
>implying we havent had 3.8 mhz cpus for 15 years
>implying that a 1.8mhz I3 doesnt blow that old shit out of the water
this is literally a non issue.

what does Arnold have to do with Nintendo and your autistic console wars?

When I say 500k, I mean in the US alone.

Dude, the shitposting weeks before the original Wii came out was 10 times worse than what I see on Sup Forums right now. Step up your game fellas.

I sincerely hope you're right. I grew up on NES, SNES, N64.

I played the original Zelda for years, SMB3 and Kirby's Adventure, Metroid, Double Dragon.

The RPGs for SNES fucking rocked. Super Mario RPG, Earthbound, Chronotrigger, Secret of Mana.

Zelda OOT, Goldeneye, Mario 64, Banjo Kazooie, Pilotwings, Mario Kart 64. Nintendo had fucking games, phenomenal games.

And now . . . maybe I'm just old and jaded, and have nostalgia goggles, but I don't think Nintendo is the force it used to be. I wish it was though.

what are you dense? do u know what a hertz is?

Nintendo had more third-parties, but you're also blinded by nostalgia. The SNES, NES, and N64 had tons of garbage games, all consoles do.

>I sincerely hope you're right.

Dude, turn off Sup Forums and go outside or hit google and look at Switch news and interest datapoints. Switch is going to be huge.

I think you're being harsh. The WiiU is by no means a powerhouse, but it was never meant to be. I think it's wise business decision to stay out of the spec-wise pissing contest of Xbone and PS4, they know they can't compete on power.

But to your point it could easily be improved.

A huge flop.

This isn't a comparsion to the other guys, this is purely the scope of the machine itself: It wasn't strong enough to reach its own potential.

The potential is two screen running at full spec (so one 480p60 and the other 720p60). As star fox 0 showed, this is practically impossible and held a lot of games back.

That was weak af.

i think this is an advantage for switch since there's only one screen to render

No doubt, I remember the garbage games, it comes with the territory. I just mean that there were tons of games, and tons of great games.

I'm upset they abandoned the WiiU, when they didn't have to. They could have bolstered the library and done a hardware refresh.

It was slightly (((funny))), tho. And it is probably more correct than saying it will be ""huge""

>when they didn't have to
user, there were quite literally no games by third-parties coming out. Support had been more-or-less cut off. It wasn't profitable, it wasn't selling, it wasn't performing well, and it wasn't good market share. They had to drop the Wii U or risk another yearly operating loss.

>How hard would it have been to wait a few months for the X2?
It all goes back to the poor hardware choices they made with the Wii. They end not being able to wait because their systems are running out of gas before the competition so they need to lock in the successor hardware earlier. However, they were so behind the curve from sticking with standard-definition tech, they weren't prepared for what was required with Wii U and struggled to get the system ready for launch. They couldn't keep the software stream steady, either, and the thing was dead before year 3. It's a situation that just keeps feeding itself.

nothing was going to save that piece of trash. it had a good run, just be happy with what you got

buddy, sit down and let me explain trolling to you.

I agree with you. And it's a chicken and egg problem. You need a library to sell consoles and the consoles to sell the library. You have to spend money to make money, and Nintendo failed to market and invest in the system appropriately from the beginning.

>I'm hitting PrtSc like crazy.
I'd pay literally $5k for video footage of your sadly deleting your cap folder when the switch bombs

Congrats, you just made the list yourself

ill get one but just because of the inevitable custom firmware thats gonna come.
nintendo consoles are always primary targets for hacking.
cant wait for this. if it gets hacked it might usurp the psp as best cfw console yet.

2/10. Lame. "Wii is 3 Gamecubes ducked Taped together" was way better.

I feel famous.

>obvious consolewar bait thread
>"fuck off sonyfags"
>"NINTENFAGS DEFLECTING EVERY TIME"

Oh yes, because that Pentium D at 3.7GHz is so much better than a Haswell and up Pentium.

>It's a Sup Forums argues about low level computer hardware episode

jesus fuck you're all retarded and don't have a fucking clue about anything to do with computers.

its fucking incredible how high this shit flies over your heads despite spending all day on your fucking rigs like neets.

t. emulator contributor

Can we get quality shitposting like pic related on Sup Forums? These Sonyggers are boring me to death.

Consoles are fucking cheap relatively speaking. If you like Nintendo that doesn't mean you have to hate Sony. Why not buy both? Nintendo has good exclusives, Sony has good exclusives. No need to hate, preference is a matter of opinion.

The Wii was 50% more powerful than the GC

The Switch will be 11.6% more powerful than the Wii U when docked, and 56% less powerful than the Wii U when undocked

Call them memes but this is what reality actually looks like

>Why not buy both?
Buying one piece of redundant hardware is too many, let alone two. Sony at least has fans who love their hardware. No where ever has a Nintendo fan said that they're a fan of the company because of the hardware. Nintendo should just go third party because their strong suit is games. Then that's one less piece of redundant hardware people need to own

what are you basing those numbers on? there's no reality you literally just talk shit all of the time

clock speeds don't really mean that much if we don't know about cuda cores or other parts of the CPU, though it's not nearly going to be as strong as hoped.

Nintendo literally prints money with anything they put out so does it really matter? Little Timmy's mom doesn't know shit about click speed Timmy just wants the new Skylanders or whatever and the Nintendo box is the cheapest one that has it.

We know the other specs that align with X1, so we can calculate theoretical gflops based on the clock speeds. That's how gflops are actually calculated. They're always theoretical.

The only way these numbers are wrong is if the leak is outright wrong, which I think is improbable

You really need to pull your head out of Nintendo's ass

*Clock speed

my head isn't in nintendo's ass you projecting faggot but you really must be desperate if you keep spouting baseless rumors to reinforce your biases

>Nintendo literally prints money
3DS is their worst selling handheld
Wii U is their worst selling console

In what context do they print money? 2011, 2012 and 2013 were all fiscal losses for them because of how bad their hardware is doing. The only reason they returned to a small profit after that is by stooping to levels they previously promised not to do, like selling DLC, amiibos and making mobile games.

Their current business model is dying. It doesn't make them doomed, but it means they're going to have to change.

im still waiting on that explenation mate

>baseless
Baseless would be two people whispering in the dark

Digital Foundry is a trusted games journalist that has vetted sources. They can't reveal the identity because they are 3rd party developers who sign NDAs not to reveal information about the devkit. If they said "it's these two guys who work at Ubisoft", those guys would be sued. Do you understand?

Sonyggers cant even shitpost right.

>the PS4 is only marginally more powerful than the PS3 — but again, due to the PS3’s hyper-specialized architecture

extremetech.com/gaming/178181-sony-claims-ps4-is-43-times-more-powerful-than-the-ps2-an-unnecessary-lie-that-perpetuates-the-megahertz-myth

C'mon fags. Do better next time.

I don't think the leak is wrong, but GFLOPS aren't really a good indicator of power in these situations, particularly when AMD and Nvidia FLOPS don't correlate.

>clockspeeds

Let's all point at the idiot and laugh.

>3DS is their worst selling handheld
68 million is still an incredible number, don't pretend it's not. If my worst system did 30 million I'd be very relieved.

>Their current business model is dying. It doesn't make them doomed

Has anyone seen a post this absurd? They are dying but they are not doomed? WTF? Make up your mind dumbass.

Why are you so disappointed in the Wii U? What more did you want from it? It has great games. I have a PS4 and Xbone and can easily say I enjoyed the Wii U exclusives much more than the other exclusives.

Funny how these guys literally only had two questions asked to them and all they had to say was "m-maxwell.." and the clock speeds with no proof for some obvious clickbait

They give us a feel. GPUs in PCs don't correlate because of drivers mostly. If you understood how drivers work, you'd understand how a huge chunk of your horse power on PC is lost to API overhead, and that's why Vulkan is such a big deal

Regardless, even with Vulkan, the Switch isn't going to magically turn into a device that's twice as powerful as it is on paper. Not even 50% more powerful. Real world performance differences are always marginal

The doctor could tell you you have cancer tomorrow and give you 3 years to live.

There's a difference between dying and dead. Furthermore, Nintendo can still CHANGE. They can become the biggest software publisher in the industry. If the doctor tells you you'll live for 50 more years if you amputate your leg, would you amputate your leg? Or would you say fuck it and die 3 years later because you're a senile old stubborn Japanese businessman who refuses to change.

Well considering Vulkan is more for AMD than Nvidia, I think it's safe to say we can ignore that API.

And again, I'm not saying the Switch is Xbone levels, but it's too early to say it's weaker than the Wii U.

It hasn't sold 68 you queefer

Technically not grammatically incorrect

i understand that without that crucial part of the proof, no one with a brain could take that as fact.

This.... post.... so..... stupid. Stop posting m8.

Is it 68 million? Thought it was more like 60.

statista.com/statistics/262074/worldwide-sales-of-the-nintendo-3ds-since-2004/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_3DS_sales

First link has it at just under 59 million, second has it at 61.5.

62, whatever, still a great number. Not nearly as good as their highs, but considering they're now battling smartphones it's nothing to shake a stick at.

it sold 10 million yesterday, keep up

i dont see the error there you autist

Battling the smartphones is the important aspect, though. Nintendo typically made up for poor performance in the home market [especially in Japan where the N64 and Gamecube sold terribly] with tremendous performance in the portable market. If they can't bank on terrific performance in the portable market, then something has to give somewhere else.

>too early to say it's weaker than the Wii U.
I'm saying it is in handheld mode only, which I think is *completely reasonable*. The Wii U is more powerful than people give it credit for especially if we're talking about a handheld device. Smart phone specs get so bloated because they're burst performance. The phone can't actually sustain those speeds because it will get too hot or burn its battery in 10 minutes, so it throttles. You can't make a throttling game environment for console games, because you'd be unable to predict your framerate, and framerate consistency is too important for non-casual games

If the Switch is an X1 it just makes sense. 1) it saves battery and 2) it gives basically a worst case scenario where they assume the system will be able to keep up that level of performance without overheating. Nintendo is expecting kids to take this, outside, in the sun, in a dark grey shell. It needs to be able to keep running in that kind of situation without overheating

And for docked, I think it will definitely be more powerful, especially when you consider architectural improvements, even if the gflops aren't as good on paper, the memory bandwidth is higher and you have access to newer techniques that come with the newer APIs

So yeah, it'll be more powerful than the Wii U when docked. I just don't think it will be *much* more powerful unless there is an added compute unit which still hasn't really been ruled out. It's ultimately a tablet and even when docked there's only so much you can reasonable expect

Is anyone ever going to post an actual verifiable source for these claims or is it all just going to be baseless rumors and clickbait blogs until the thing actually comes out?

I hope it can really kick into second gear when docked, I'm hoping for at-least somewhere half-way between Wii U and Xbone.

Boy, you're confusing GPU clock speeds with CPU clocks speeds here.
The Switch CPUs operate at 1Ghz both when docked and undocked, which is 3 times more clockspeed than both on PSP and Vita.
It's the GPU that falls to 307 Mhz when undocked, and clockspeed alone is not a good measure, specially when talking about shit that use multiple cores like all GPUs and you don't even know how many the system actually have.

the clock speeds are being reported by Eurogamer, who have literally never been wrong when it comes to these type of leaks. They were 100% correct about the Switch months before it was revealed, were almost 100% correct on their initial leak of the 3DS, and have leaked several titles before announcement. They're more than trustworthy.

The clock speeds come from sources verified by DF. DF can't reveal their identity.

You have two options: you can pretend that DF is incredible and question their judgement, or you can reason that DF wouldn't be making such claims without a strong reason of believing them to be true.

I might add that DF is not a clickbait blog. They don't even talk about shit like this normally, they do framerate analysis for fucks' sake