Its been a while since we have a Monitor vs HDTV Thread

its been a while since we have a Monitor vs HDTV Thread.

what is the best setup to play games Sup Forums?

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home theater >>> all

only a peasant who never played 144hz would even ask such a dumb question

thats my exact setup OP

Monitor always, even for single player console games.

games are more sharp on a monitor, also you see little details more easily.

less eye fatigue too.

The only reason to ever get a television is if you don't have room for a monitor, which seems odd.

If by a while you mean less than 24 hours

WHAT

who THE FUCKS play console games in a monitor?

consoles are meant for big fucking tvs

Depends on the TV but there are TV's that do 4:4:4 Chroma just fine and are just as sharp as a monitor. The only negative with TV's is some have noticeable motion blur and barely any have actual 120hz.

I'm on a Samsung J5200 40inch in PC mode and on the "entertainment" image preset and my games look much better than on my 24 inch IPS Lenovo monitor because the Samsung has a VA panel and very good blacks, not to mention the main reason I have it which is the size. I personally like having a giant screen for personal use and for having people over so they can watch me play games or watch movies. If I was a competitive FPS player I'd probably stick with a 100hz+ TN monitor.

I play on consoles because they're comfy
Used to play on a monitor but everything just feels so much better on a 32inch

Playing Bayonetta 2(Wii U) and Tekken Tag 2(PS3) on my PC monitor was silky smooth when compared to my Sharp 60" HDTV with Game Mode /PC Mode on. Bayonetta 2 felt a lot faster and Tekken felt like I am playing the arcade cabinet version.

I use a PS4 on my 22" monitor in my bedroom and it looks fine. I actually prefer it to my 50" TV for games which require precision/are intimate (like TLOU) because I have poor eyesight and I like things to be in my face. (even though I wear glasses and my vision goes back to 20/20, I still prefer having screens close)

This, seriously. You can get a huge tv with low input lag and chroma 4:4:4 and it's very much the best of both worlds. Rtings.com is your friend, do your research and you can get an awesome tv for pc gaming at a great price

How about RTS/MOBA?

What the hell is that thing staring at me in the reflection jfc

CRT monitor. What's your excuse, poorfriends?

thats my setup if you are curious

Monitor for games, TV for shows/movies.

Source? She's Fucking adorable

I have my PS4 next to my PC, so they're both hooked up to the same monitor, which has my best speakers plugged into it.

144hz monitor.

Minimum 1080p.

as god intended

>GT
>G+
>GX

weak attempt

Once I switched from my TV to my 24' PC monitor, I never went back. It's so much better, input lag and visuals.

I don't think I will ever play on a TV again.

>PS4 on top of the XB1
>XB1's fan is being completely blocked
>XB1 will be slowly cooking itself to death

silly virgin thats my girlfriend ;)

What is she doing to that thing sticking out of your chest?

You had a shit tv, better write off all of them since you're a retard incapable of doing the slightest amount of research

Why is your "GT" stabbing you?

Never thought to play console on monitor, figured I'd just save the monitor for when I built my PC.

Got this girl for cheap back in 2014, its got cucky smart features so I can play my youtubes on it. Does 1080p 120hz and when set to game mode as a pc input the latency gets brought down to 20ms or so. No motion blur any of that shit. All my games look and feel pretty gud.

Post your tv's user's don't be afraid of being judged

SO what's the dlog, Nne and

Not him but I play FPS and all other kinds of games on my Samsung J5200 and I don't notice any input lag at all, and I was coming from using a 120hz monitor before that, there is a difference, obviously 120hz feels better but you adjust to 60hz really quickly, going from 60hz to 120hz isn't going to magically make you a better player, it is just a nice thing to have.

My TV has like 30ms of input lag and my current monitor has like 15ms, not to be confused with response time, we're talking millionths of a second, it's not noticeable until you reach the 45-50ms+ threshold. 35ms and under is considered great in general, anything under makes no difference unless the display is also 120hz+ and also has very minimal motion blur.

For TRS/MOBA games you could even play on a 70ms input delay and still do fine, for shooters or rhythm games you want 35ms or under.

This. Input lag is ridiculous on a TV. My setup is similar to but without external speakers as they're built in to the monitor.

That reminds me I wanted to get a separate tower speaker for my room. Any good ones out there with Bluetooth connectivity?

Not all tv's have the same input lag, you know. 18ms is pretty reasonable, I'd say. There are plenty of good tv's for gaming.

If you're a moron and just go out and by a random TV without researching its specs than yeah, you can get a shitty TV for gaming and for a PC. You want to find out before buying it if it can support chroma 4:4:4 and if it is a VA panel and if it has a "PC" or "Game" mode which reduces input lag.

I picked up an LG OLED last month around black friday, they got discounted down into normal high end TV range so I figured why not. My only complaint is that I wish they had a 40 inch size, 55 is a bit too big for my setup.

There are barely any modern TV's that have that low of an input lag and the ones that do are pretty expensive, but many TV's out there have 35ms or under which in reality is basically indistinguishable from 18ms assuming it's at 60hz. What you want to look out for in TV's when you find one under 35ms is how bad the motion blur is.

I have a smaller room and I sit pretty close to the monitor anyways (which is 27" + 5ms response time). The Samsung 55" in the living room is the alternative but playing twitchy shooters like Black Ops 3 on it is just terrible even with game mode.

it's about that time to buy a new monitor, should I go

1080p 144mhz
1440p
21:9

Aren't you worried about burn-in?

The thing putting me off them is with things like games you have static HUD elements constantly in the same place.

Well yeah, if you have a smaller room 55" can be too big depending on how far away you have to be. What model Samsung is it?

Samsung UNH6350 120 Hz.

Because there's nothing to discuss. Monitors are better for games because they don't have 200+ millisecond input delays like HDTVs. That's it. Please stop making this thread.

1080p 144hz if you mostly play online FPS

1440p if you play a mix of everything

21:9 if you're a hipster

Also if you can get a VA panel monitor if you go 1440p or 21:9. Contrast > Color accuracy.

I was pretty worried about that before I bought it, but I did some research on the subject and its not quite the same thing as Plasma screen burn-in. Its pretty much just image retention, only happens if you leave static images on the screen for hours, and pretty much always goes away after a few hours of normal use. I haven't seen any burn-in or retention at all since I got it, and I have a PC hooked up to it.

>Samsung UNH6350

Seems like a good tv according to rtings, but the input lag on game mode is getting up there past the threshold at 44ms so I see what you mean. The general consensus is that the magic number to stay under is 35ms.

What's the best 1440p >100hz monitor I can get with good color accuracy and contrast? I'm assuming I need an IPS or VA panel.

It's all about preference. If much rather have a 120/144 hz monitor for gaming rather than a huge tv and pay a premium for a decent tv that has good specs for vidya.

I have a 55 inch Samsung KS8000 in my living room That can do 1080 and 4K 4:4:4 + HDR along with native 120hz connected to a decent media center that can game and can say I usually just stick to playing walking simulators or other "nice looking" not so serious games. Everything else is for my gaming setup in my room.

Jup
My tv blows my ips monitor out of the water on color,blacks and even on grey to grey response time.

it was almost 7times more expensive ,but still..

That doesn't sound so bad then, I thought the residual ghosting effect would stick around a lot longer, I'd say it's worth the price of A+ color and infinite contrast ratio. Affordable OLEDs finally mean there is a reason to stop looking for a Sony Trinitron fw900, only negative is a small increase in input lag, though I've heard OLEDs generally have really low input lag.

Dont OLED tv's have horrid input lag at the moment?
I wanted a oled at the time but there was nothing good for gaming.

>tfw have my computer, PS4, and Xbone all hooked up to my tv

I don't have room for a desk

I bought that same TV but it shipped to my house broken, so I returned it for a much cheaper 40' LU6300. Still has 4K 4:4:4 and amazingly low input lag for a HDTV but HDR support is shit and it probably won't look as good. Decided to use the money I saved to buy a much better monitor for gaming.

My "gaming" ips monitor has a delay of 21ms.
My 4k 55" tv has 24ms.
Not really noticable.

But a good gaming TV will cost you way more.

The one I have is ~30ms in game mode, but coming off a 10ms monitor I have to say I can't really feel a difference. The OLED honestly feels nicer overall, there is absolutely zero ghosting or blur thanks to the instant pixel response time.

I'm the exact opposite, all my consoles are hooked up to my monitor because I don't have enough room for a huge HDTV and home theater setup.

I don't know, go on newegg and filter by what you're looking for, there aren't any VA ones that are also 100-144hz though so it's down to whether you prefer better picture quality or higher refresh rate.

There are 21:9 1440p monitors with 100hz and have pretty good picture quality, so I'm sure there are some regular 1440p monitors with higher refresh rates that have even better IQ

There are but I couldn't find any VA ones. I'm sure there are TN and maybe some IPS ones though, but with those you get worse contrast.

IPS has pretty good contrast and isn't a bad compromise.
Also the 21:9 1440p 100hz monitors I was referring to are IPS. They also cost like $1.3k MSRP but still.

I had a 21:9 monitor for a while, half the games just don't work right on it.

It's great for widescreen movies and doing stuff on the desktop though. Snap 2 windows side by side and it's almost like having dual 4:3 monitors.

Yeah I got a pretty good deal on Black Friday at my Frys electronics. Was about to get sold a crappy quality but cheaper Sony 60 inch 4K. But luckily rtings saved me from that choice. This thing is great with HDR that I mainly use on movies/shows. It's only issue I would say is that it takes ALOT of calibrating if you don't have an ideal media room (something that stays dark most of the time). Ended up finding a nice calibration video file. It also makes lower quality broadcasts really noticeable. But these issues mainly come with cable tv things which I still use a lot so yeah.

This is why it's really just a novelty item. It's not practical going with 21:9. IPS is okay but it depends on your tastes and how much gray looking blacks bother you, once you see a good VA panel and see how dark the black is and how good darker scenes and things like shadows look it's hard to go back to TN or IPS, that's just my taste though, I think contrast is the single most important factor in image quality.

Anyone who cares about their eyes and what they see.

Do you have a link to that video file? My set can't really show true HDR but it'd still be nice to calibrate my set even though I use it for games almost exclusively.

That's basically why I eventually gave up on 21:9. Yeah they're great for multitasking and movies but game support is pretty abysmal right now and it's not really worth the extra cash for me. Problem is I've spent the past few months researching almost exclusively 21:9 monitors so I don't know jack shit about current 1440p monitors with good IQ and high refresh rates.

I'm still not sure exactly what the new HDR does, from what I've heard it seems like it's just a better version of the crappy dynamic contrast feature a lot of TV's have.

No Bethesda games support it at all, not even Fallout 4. I had to bruteforce it by editing the config file in Documents, but this caused a crazy graphical error whenever it rained and the "wet effect" caused the entire screen to slowly turn white.

Some games either stretched the hud twice as wide as it normally is, others just put black bars on the left and right side.

Thankfully "flawless widescreen" managed to save me on a few games. But even then it would put the HUD right in the middle of the screen like it was still 16:9.

Games like Battlefield impressed me though, you could even toggle between having the HUD on the outside corners like normal, or have the HUD elements closer to the middle so you don't have to turn your head as much.

Its not exactly one specific thing, its a standard two competing standards that require that display can do few different things for it to be labeled as HDR. Basically it means 10-bit color support, and the display can get to a certain high brightness without washing out color or losing detail in the extreme ends of light/dark.

My setup. I am thinking of adding atmos module when they get more popular.

what case is that?

>Wall mounted 720p HTDV about 8 feet in front of me, my chin is level with the bottom of the TV
>One 720p monitor to my right for documents, cheat codes, and Game Informer scans. Monitor top is perfectly level with my scalp
>Tower hung between my legs via metal cage, open back. Warm legs and dick during winter

My setup is wonderful, but cramped as fuck.

Nice. Is that a Denon receiver? I've got the X2200W and it looks pretty similar to the one in your pic.

AR/VR with unlimited monitor works is going to be fucking rad.
Until then, monitors.

Not user, I ended up going for a 27" 4k IPS monitor. Blacks look better than my previous TN panel but I still notice some backlight bleed around the corners depending on viewing angle and the matte finish is not great since it still reflects a bit and affects consistency of black.

144hz would've been nice for watching 24Hz content, can't for the life of me figure out how to eliminate panning judder at 23.976 on a 60Hz monitor.

Should've waited on 144Hz+ 4K OLED panels with HDR to become a thing. But perhaps it is for the better since chances are it will have its fair share of flaws primarily burn in, until better iterations come out.

I have the X2200W. Exactly what you got.
CM Stryker

The 720p monitor is a bigger sin than the 720p TV. You might as well try and get an old CRT monitor, those had a higher resolution than 720p and have better color, contrast, and basically 0 input lag.

It is hectic to setup. I have a Vive, cool piece of kit but it feels like a commitment to put it on. The technology has to become far more compact and lightweight with minimal setup time before it can really take off.

With a monitor setup you just sit in your chair and at most put on some headphones, viola done. They are not the same medium but setup time and ergonomics is a yuuuge deal. I'd use VR a lot more often otherwise.

Nah, don't have a lot of room in my place for a CRT. Maybe down the road though. The TV was a christmas gift, and it works plenty fine for what I play with. I'll keep it until it dies on me.

Just wish I could get the color settings to match on the monitor. My TV is brighter than the monitor, and the colors just won't match. Both screens are clean, too.

I got it from IPT it's called "INHD Home Theater Tune Up" it's pretty old but works just fine for general turning and it's a small file. I'm going to buy disney's "WOW" blu Ray a bit later when it goes down in price because right now it's stupid expensive and it's a really big file to download elsewhere

Yeah, from what I've read when researching all this stuff. It's pretty much that except it works the way it was supposed to work to Begin with. And it's only going to improve support wise. There's already a decent amount of HDR content being made now. However, that's not to say it's all good. If you skimp out and get a tv that doesn't do HDR content very well you will notice it in the form of either blown out colors and blacks that are closer to grey. From what I've read on rtings it seems that the ks8000 is the best in it's class for HDR in the price range it's at.

My current setup is a $5 monitor I got at a garage sale and a $10 Bluetooth speaker I got at a Big Lots. The sound quality is abysmal and the power cord costed more than the monitor itself.

How do I git gud, Sup Forums? I need a monitor for PC and console gaming. I'd prefer something with HDMI and built-in speakers or an audio-out.

>something with HDMI and built-in speakers
I've had this for the past 2 years and it's been quality since.

amazon.com/MX279H-MX279-1920x1080-Frameless-Monitor/dp/B00B17C5KO

>The technology has to become far more compact and lightweight with minimal setup time before it can really take off.
That's why I said "going to be", it's not ready yet.

Ever wonder why all the gaming tournaments use PC monitors as opposed to TVs. TVs are fucking awful for gaming. Only benefit they have is size, that's it. Monitors have better response time, better colours, and less input lag. Get a TV if you like having friends over for multiplayer games. Other than that, monitors are superior in every way, shape, and form.

>40 inch
>giant screen

Pick one.

?

>stacking consoles

Are you retarded?

What candle is that?

>blur is still an issue

what the fuck

40 inch is small, lad.