There's no way wider audience can ruin a game

>there's no way wider audience can ruin a game

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I literally do not give a fuck about Dark Souls PvP.

This. Beyond some atmospheric and thrilling invasion where balance would actually ruin the mood, only retard cunts care about actual multiplayer.

thats a longer range, not a wider audience

>play DS3
>be strfag
>start boss fight
>start attack
>get interupted by boss attack
>roll through a hundred boss attacks until a window is open
>start attack
>go to bed
>wake up
>meet girl
>marry
>start a family
>die of old age
>attack hits and does the same amount of damage that a small fast weapon would do
>repeat
Thanks DS3

das pvpfags are kinda like smash players, they take seriously a small part of a game to the point of autism when not even the developers even gave a shit about it

except at least smash players have one actually good game to brag about

I don't get it.

What am I looking at?

busted hitboxes

>it doesn't affect me so it's not a problem
typical third world parasite scum mentality

A one handed sword has more range than a two handed sword, because the first one is what probably most new players will be using and bamco made sure they wouldn't have a hard time.

Its even worse with the Dark Sword. I have a feeling someone at From actually mistakenly switched out the weapon ranges for the swords and greatswords.

>Giving a fuck about Dark Souls PvP
The only one with a problem here is you.

Welp, that explains why I kept my starter sword for the whole fekkin game.

>they take seriously a small part of a game to the point of autism when not even the developers even gave a shit about it

Are you a fucking retard or what? The invasion system was one of the main selling points of the series.

>The invasion system was one of the main selling points of the series.
And it's shit in every single game. Says a lot about the series if you ask me.

Nier automata platinum ass fetishists ruined the fanbase.

>The invasion system was one of the main selling points of the series.

>transform itself in a giant hitbox
>charge at the speed of light with no startup whatsoever
>proceeds to get stuck on it's own arena

wow, so this is the power of team A

it was that and prepare to le die marketing
those are the things that brought people to the games

It is though.

One of my biggest gaming related regrets is that I haven't played DeS during its prime

Oh boy, fighting in Shrine of Storms all day, how exciting.

ok but the hitboxes are still broken shit

>this
just kill me user kun

The hitboxes have always been broken shit. Welcome to Dark Souls faggot.

Wrong. The hitboxes are extremely precise.

Straightsword hitboxes were purposely made larger to appease to casual players.

If you're gonna say something stupid I'd be better if you stayed quiet.

Why don't you stay quiet for saying something so fucking stupid then

what the fuck does this have to do with a game having more fans

>DS3 PVP devolves to the point where anything but using the most inefficient weapon in the game and playing so passively it takes 10 minutes for anyone to commit to an attack isn't honorable.

Fuck casuals.

>this tiny handful of examples means that everything is perfect

no, every weapon has at least 3 feet of extended hitbox, pair that with piece of shit ptp netcode and I gets worsened by 1000%

this has infuriated me for a while. iv only played ds3 in the souls series, but the dps for high weight weapons seems less than low weight counterparts. what the fuck is the reasoning?

>Souls series PvP
>balanced

Shit balance.

autists exploiting latency to prove their shitty point

>I played Demon's Souls when it was new and no one knew about this hidden gem

It blew my fucking mind. It will always be one of my favorite games.

>Hitbox porn
It did no damage because you're fucking invincible when you do that shit.

there's more to a weapon than DPS

No you're not. Please stop making things up.

It's not much worse than the futa fetishists.

>DeS during it's prime.
>mega mules everywhere with 100 full moon grass literally chomping through grass rendering all your attacks useless, but it's okay because you also have 100 full moon grass so after your combo you start full mooning through his combo, making every invasion last literally 30-40 minutes.

>This gets so ridiculous that players literally stop dueling with any semblance of expecting any fight to be any fun and everyone equips the scrapping spear.

>every duel now ends after 90 minutes, with all gear on both players completely broken.

>invasions become nothing but this only a week after launch, just twinks invasing in 1-1/1-2 with scraping spear and standing at one of the bottle necks waiting for a player to come by to break all their gear effortlessly. Still to this day if you go to 1-1 as a human a scraping spear pvper will spawn near INSTANTLY, still twinking nubs TO THIS DAY.

I loved demon souls but holy shit in it's "prime" demon souls pvp was literally cancer.

Prove me wrong.

When I was going for platinum I was invading at Carthus. Its so hard for me to hit enemies when R1'ing with the morion blade. It must be the type of short sword, not the weapon class. Dark Sword and Astora's Straight Sword must have some sort of extended range.

I know for certain that Twin Prince's long sword boss weapon has longer range, but that is because its damage is shit and is a boss weapon. But for normal weapons like dark sword, its very jarring.

Mules came a bit later though.

Okay.
Here, you're wrong. Now stop making shit up.

>Not even the same armor
>Not even the same enemy
keep trying

This, no poise was a mistake.

can't tell if this is shitposting or if you really actually believe different enemies will affect you differently when putting down a sign

why the fuck would you even post this bait?

Take your meds, your autism is flaring out of control.

There is poise now. And it killed ultra weapons for good, they unusable bad now.

It's simple, you have guy with skimmy katana that weights 2 kilos and then the guy with giant sword that weights 200 kilos. Which one of them is more likely to have extra equip load to equip have armor and thus have poise? There you go.

(you)

>There is poise now.

No there isnt.

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:^)

Yes there is. The more poise you have, the stronger is your hyperarmor. Because greatswords have a nice balance between weight and hyperarmor, they are the best weapon class in the game right now by a huge margin and basically a better version of their giant counterparts in every single aspect possible.

I didn't expect anything from Dark Souls 3, but yet this game disappointed me.
>broken as fuck covenants that won't work
>random invasions unplayable if you don't have some broken shit that can kill in one hit, since you'll always end up in a 1v3 or 1v4 situation
>huge focus on the duels instead

So they already detroyed what constituted 80% of my playtime in any other Souls game. Maybe they did a great pve experience that will make the remaining 20% a blast to play. WRONG.

While they did fix many issues DaS2 had, they didn't do anything else. It's the same fucking shit as every other Souls game with NO surprise whatsoever.
While the level design has its checklist of multiple pathes and shortcuts, the game remains linear as fuck.
And the game is way to easy. Bosses have little to no health, to the point that I have been discovering some parts of their movesets on NG+2. The only challenge that came out in this game where the optionnal zones like smouldering lake or the dragon peak thingy. Those were super bullshit (but fun), but they were so bland. The smouldering lake was a big pretty place with NOTHING on it, while the later part is a fucking chalice dungeon rehash. There are also shortcuts and bonefire EVERY FIVE STEPS.
The lore is also a huge joke that makes no sense. Dark Souls 1 could get away with some bullshit becuase it could make sense on its own. Dark Souls 3 went much further with the bullshit and retconned some stuff to the point it makes no fucking sense (m-muh fucking illusion).

But still, this game remains enjoyable. The musics are good. Some bosses are fun to fight and have a godsend setting. The game is also nice to watch during some moments. But this game is a creative bankruptcy. And whenever I see someone saying it's one of the best Souls game, I cringe hard. This game is a solid 5/10, just like DaS2. While they did some things better, they also did ruin the fucking PVP. The "muh Miyazaki" was a marketing meme, just like I predicted.

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I dont give a shit about hyperarmor, Im obviously talking about classic poise.

Best part of DS3 is the Music

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>hyper armor
>dick frame exploits
Whatever man. The games are barely worth a once over. Especially since more than half the fucking game is optional.

So you like the easy mode instead of getting gud.

That's a very accurate comparison, my man.

It would be same. Fast weapons would have extra equip load and thus have poise while heavy weapons would have no poise despite needing it the most. What you would have is full havel's unstoppable 2kat spamming it's WA of death that combos for over 900 damage.

The problem is Vitality, it's a retarded stat. Equip load should be tied to both Endurance and Strength

people like this user are the worst types of people

even worse than jews

It's probably just a kid. I was like this too.

I'm 32.

>singleplayer
>when OP was pointing out shit in multiplayer

I pvp in das. I don't take it seriously but it is fun. It's literally the best fighting game out atm

I figured out if I lure him into the fuck of a mess on the left his attacks rarely connect. I'll be up his ass the whole fight and he rarely hits me.

Miyazaki suckers won't regard this at all. It's actually kind of funny how much they defend DS3, as if they haven't played any of the other games.

>The new lore is below garbage tier
>'Pft, who cares about the lore in a Souls game?'

>Invasions are constantly flat broken against invaders, on top of latency issues
>'You're just not invading right. And who plays Dark Souls for PvP?'

>Gameplay took two steps back from DaS2 and has too many Bloodborne enemy influences
>'But Bloodborne was great! DaS3 has some of the best gameplay in the series!'

>DLC flat out sucked in both lore delivery AND game delivery, obviously made to market the arena rather than deliver anything.
>'The DLC area is super cool! What are you talking about? That second boss was awesome!'

>Half the bosses are piss easy, gimmicks, or just bad
>'But look at these bosses from DaS2! That was so much worse!' (When it really wasn't)

>Game is easier than fucking DaS2, despite gameplay flaws
>'It's just because you've played Souls too long for it to be hard!'

>DaS3 is easily the most linear of the games, almost atrociously so
>'But DaS2 was worse!' (Not really)

It's shocking how much denial you'll see.

I agree. but with hyper aggressive boss fights it doesn't make sense to use high weight weapons that will trash all your stamina, or take too long to land on an opening. Then theres the roll-spam in PVP that make them useless.
This is all in my amateur experience, if you know Cosmo's 5 secrets to having fun with your large club then fuckin tell me.

thats even worse lel

If I ever only had tank builds in the rest of the series what would I even do here? I don't know how to play any other build

No there isn't.

Monster Hunter does heavy weapons right.

From soft is all about muh Katanas and muh straight swords.

That's why most pvpers are "quality builds" dex shitters.

>Half the bosses are piss easy, gimmicks, or just bad

DaS3 probably had the best boss consistency in the entire series. Maybe not the best overall but it maintained a pretty solid level of quality throughout.

Short swords are better for PvP and much better for PvE than great swords.

>what are i-frames

This.

And the obligatory gimmick boss, Wolnir, was alright and not frustrating.

Das3 sold less than Das1.

The only particularly terrible fight in 3 was the dragon, and even then it wasn't as bad as the stinkers from the other games.

Bloodborne was the easiest to me and 3 has been kicking my ass this week. I don't get it

Bloodborne is made for casual console babbies who can only r1 spam and rewarded for it.

But all nerds here and polls online say is that it's one of if not the most difficult of the series.

You're absolutely right tho

>Bought the DLC
>Still haven't played it
Fuck why does 3 have to be so boring. It's the only one I can't just pick up and have fun in.

I was with you till this post. Now I know you're just retarded.

>muh just baiting
Yeah sure, the good old excuse.

>Tfw enjoyed DaS1 and 2, just got 3, loved BB and one day will play DeS
Why cant yall just enjoy video games

Think about it user.

Reason why we struggle to rank them is because they're all at least a solid 8/10.

It's not like DMC where the consensus is that DMC2 is the worst.

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Demon's Souls had much better PvP than Dark Souls without poise user. You'd know that if you played it.

wow you actually can't just say "hey i was wrong" lol

You're like the one exception where pointing and laughing at a retard is acceptable.

FRC and dinner dog is much, much harder than anything in the rest of the series. Go ahead and try fighting Bloodstarved Beast in a pool of poison with half health.

I played Demon's Souls PvP from 2009-2013. I can tell you that you not only didn't miss anything, but you probably are able to enjoy the series much more for avoiding that absolute shit fest of a meta.

Honestly, there was a meta where only 3 grass was allowed, and then another meta that banned grass altogether, but it was not very big, i still remember the names of everyone who played DeS pvp competitively. That's how small it was.

>clear the content waifu'ing my Zweihanderfu and stomping shit in Landsknecht fashionsouls
>laugh at the nerds complaining about muh poise and straightsword meme
>finish playthrough
>start a run using faster weapons
>a longsword does twice the dps with no risk involved

I laughed at you guys, thinking that I wasn't wearing ANY hypegoggles at all, and that the game was genuinely good.
I keep doing this, but I never apologized for it. I hope you don't mind

I don´t care much about PVP, but yeah souls 3 was a disapointment. Maybe because I new the two hidden worlds, but the lore was stupid as fuck. And the linearity really fucked me and everytime I saw an enemy I thought "wow this looks like in bloodborne". MLGS was nerfed to oblivion and straight swords were the only thing good. At least Anri´s SS made fun.

DS1>=DS2>>>>>DS3

Best opinion. PvP is what ruined this series.

>PVP is a feature closely tied to PVE since Demon's Souls
>It ruined the serie

It did. We all know it. That's why every entry got weaker up until Bloodborne. Bloodborne hardly focused on PvP which is what made it so much better.

>Dark Souls is weaker than Demon's Souls
>While it's basically Demon's Souls with everything better

That's the best part.

Why not just play Ni-Oh instead? Its an infinitely better game.

Here's the thing, heavy weapons aren't supposed to really have higher DPS, they're meant to have high damage single attacks, two, three hits and boom, enemy dead

"shock wave" just like dark souls 2