As a pc gamer i don't see myself buying a single game for $30 when i can get multiple (5-6) games for the same price...

As a pc gamer i don't see myself buying a single game for $30 when i can get multiple (5-6) games for the same price. During the Winter sale I think to myself if i should buy Dark Souls 3 or buy a couple games from my wishlist. I think it is absurd spending more than $9.99 for a single game since sales are every other month. How do you guys feel about this?

Completely agree, but right now no game I own fills the voidness.

Also, every game I might like costs more than 10 €

Quite often I spend more time browsing Steam reading and seeing stuff than playing the games I own.

Bump

If I really want to play a game I have no problem buying it on launch. I'm already at a point where there isn't anything that interests me on sales. What I wanted I bought years ago. With keyseller you don't really need to pay full launch price anymore if you don't want to.

But the big problem I see about this is, that this sentiment to buy cheap is more and more prevalent in the PC community. And everybody bitches that consoles are holding back PC gaming. But more and more PC gamer aren't willing anymore to buy shit on launch. Games usually aren't expensive if you see what they cost to make. So I'm not surprised that the glory days of the 2000s are gone, back in the day where PC had lots of great exclusive games or their own versions of shooters or adventures. Now games cost too much to make so going the PC only route to make a great exclusive isn't viable.

At least it's better than pirating and I understand why people do this. But then stop bitching about "PC when?" the whole time. You shoot yourself in the foot and making yourselfs a secondary market for devs.

I only buy games on the cheap during sales because I so far still have enough 'old' games that last me long enough I can ride out the days without a sale until it comes by again and whatever was 'new' back then is now the new 'old'. I know I will eventually run out of stuff I am interested it, as right now I purchased 10 games that I was not wholly sure on but I went with it anyway. I am not opposed to paying full-price for something on launch date though, it's just that whatever comes out generally isn't that noteworthy and I already got stuff to keep me busy. It doesn't help I always try to 100% complete games, ensuring some cheap games can last me a lot longer than what the price would actually be worth.

Im still buying a bunch of old games from 1998-2007. I want to play some newer games but i dont feel like buying DOOM or Witcher 3for $20.
>tfw AMD Radeon HD 7870
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This is counteracted by the PC audience growing.

So while people don't buy games at $60 a lot anymore. The bigger audience means that you might sell 4 games at $30 instead of 1 game at $60.

PC might be in a position where games don't have to be expensive anymore due to a large amount of people buying the game at sales generating a larger amount of revenue.

A thing that is also happening on PC and not on consoles is that when a new game releases the older games from the same studio sees a bump in sales as well. Meaning that you can pump out new games even if you don't make any profit on any individual game since every new game the older games will also sell copies.

There is a HUGE problem with oversaturation in the indie segment though.

A LOT of 1-5/10 games hide hidden gems in the 5-7/10 range.

7-10/10 indie games usually still happen to generate a hype such as Undertale etc. But a lot of games that would've been commercially successful in the past are now hidden in a sea of shit. Games like "braid" would never survive in todays steam store.

My personal theory is that when you become an old gamer (15+ years of gaming) you start to see the patterns in the game industry and the games, so it's increasingly harder to impress you.

Also, that's why I usually enjoy more reading about a game, watching screenshots and all that, than actually playing it. Not to mention not bothering with installing mods and learning how to optimize your game skills in games that eventually become boring if you take them too seriously.

Same. I'm debating getting MSG V, but $24 is still pretty costly when most games are in the $10 range and the game is only 40% off instead of the 50%+.

There are no good games for cheap. I'd rather spend 50€ for one good game that I actually play, than three shit games that I stop playing 4 hours in.

You got it backwards user.

It's just that those "patterns in the game industry and games" have just appeared relatively recently.

Back in the 80's and 90's a lot of the "rules" for how games should be made didn't exist yet. So there were no real patterns.

Higher budgets for game development means that you can't take as much risk anymore and it's safer to stick to known patterns.

Every generation you see the development budget increase exponentially and at the same time the games become more streamlined and bland as a result of following those save patterns.

It's not the 15+ years of experience that lets you see this. It's that the industry actually changed to be more prone to patterns.

Hell you even notice this in handheld gaming. The DS and PSP had great libraries even though they were out at the same time as the PS3/XBOX360 which had relatively little good games.

The industry just doesn't innovate anymore. I don't see a remedy to this phenomenon unless budgets suddenly drop in the future.

Sales are like crack.

Well said

The thing is almost all games on steam will become crazy cheap eventually. You have to be a NEET that games 16 hours a day to beat all those games from 1990 to 2016.

Also emulate console backlogs and 100% them.

There's no shortage of good games to play and it's extremely hard to justify buying a $60 game when it doesn't really offer a better experience than older games.

>souls 3

if no interest in pvp, pirate and buy the GOTY.

I'd rather buy one game that I actually want to play than buying 5 just because they were cheap.

The point is buying 5 games you kinda want to play vs 1 game you kinda want to play a little bit more.

New Vegas Ultimate Edition is $10 and is easily 150 hours of gameplay.

Same, i ONLY buy on sales.

i only ever buy games from steam during season sales or the occasional midweek madness deal. you can get new games for dirt cheap year round at a variety of other places but its pointless to go anywhere near aaa games until 3 months after releases after all the patches, which by then sees even firther price drops. the only games i buy anywhere near release are the rare niche games that are pretty polished like shadow tactics.

Stop paying attention to the AAA industry and actually look at all the developers making great games that slip under the radar all the god damn time. Or at least look at the B-teams of those AAA developers, some of them put out damn good work and it goes unnoticed.

Remember squaresoft and how everyone thinks they do nothing but final fantasy back in the day then their B-Team made Legend of Dragoon and it was fucking awesome.

i tend to do the same thing with PC games.
though for some i buy a ton of console games at full price, probably has something to do with actually having a physical copy

That new Deus Ex dropped by 66% or something only four months after launch, sure glad I didnt pay full price for that.

Yeah I remember back when I was a console gamer ~10 years ago I would just go to the store and look around the games section and pick up a game or 2 if they'd look interesting enough.

I don't do the same with Steam since they spammed new games. I did at the start of the sales back in 2009-2012 though. Steam need to delete 90% of those indie bullshit from their store.

It was the first game in 5 years where I paid full price and I didn't even play it yet.

I feel like a sucker.

I feel the same way except that I have teamspeak friends that I want to play games with and so I bought Dark Souls III for myself and two others since one is a highschool dropout and lives as a NEET and the other lent money to another to pay of a credit card.
I hope we can play it all together since its really all that makes me happy anymore.
Money spent on others is never wasted.

>Steam need to delete 90% of those indie bullshit from their store.

you can completely filter out indie shit from your personal store page now. even applies to the top sellers list and the daily highlights of the winter sale. i haven't seen an indie title on steam since the store update months ago.

To be fair problem is that industry has done its very best to kill all those mid-size development studios. Now you have pretty much AAAs and indies, especially on consoles.

The problem is that some indie games are good but most of them are absolute shit.

Steam used to filter the games to make sure only the highest quality indie games were released. Now the floodgates are open and it's pure diarrhea.