If the Japs wanted O to be confirm and X to be cancel why didn't they do this?

If the Japs wanted O to be confirm and X to be cancel why didn't they do this?

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They were copying the SNES layout

Their layout is correct.

Nintendo uses B to cancel (bottom) and A to confirm (right)

This. However the popularity of the og xbox and 360 in the west basically forced a switch. Many ps1 and 2 games used o for confirm. But ps3 only a couple in the west still did, like mgs4, then maybe games used o in jp and changed when it went to the west.

I think at this point, jp noe does x as confirm even in their own region.

I'm fine with either.

No they don't, O is still yes

I have an Asian PS3 and PS4, most of the games I've played was O to confirm and X to cancel

>Many ps1 and 2 games used o for confirm
A few PS1 games did, but they also used X for confirm. The only actual time the button config has consistently survived the move west is with the MGS series. It's always been O to confirm in Japan, and will always remain that way.

>the popularity of the og xbox and 360
My fucking sides

Also, the circle should be blue and the ecks should be read

red = hot = good
blue = cold = bad

I remeber uising start or triangle for canceling and square or x to accept.
Some games used o.

Im content with the current uniformed system for menu and in game navigation. Lets one concentrate more on fighting the game instead its controls.

>this thread again
Holy fuck man give it a fucking rest,I know you are autisitc but there are other things in life.
Fucking lmao

FUCKING RETARDED JAPS

Ur are wrong

I'm pretty sure that 3 was the last MGS that used O for confirm, and even that was changed in the HD collection.

Because japs always had the Confirm(A) and Cancel(B) set up in that way, since... well since they invented video games as we know them, really.

Problem is that original Xbox had A in the bottom because their ABXY layout couldn't be the same as Nintendo.
Sony adopted this and made the button in the bottom X the confirm button to match with Xbox's A button.

>Sony adopted this and made the button in the bottom X the confirm button to match with Xbox's A button.
Duh
japanese layout is still different

x is only confirm on non asian consoles

The red circle and blue x were established symbols 50 years before video games were a thing.

How the fuck are you all forgetting the PS1 ALWAYS had the X button be confirm in its earliest western games?

That was long long before the Xbox was even thought of.

Microsoft adopted their ABXY layout from the Dreamcast, which was itself an adaptation of the Genesis's and Saturn's ABCXYZ layout.

O means options, X means check and triangle is pointing upwards for exit

>baka gaijin layout

Why do you have to talk like such a faggot?

What?

You're all wrong.

Cancel was orignally Triangle on the PS1.

The fucking underage here is horrid.

Its the latest meme insult.

In Japan an O means 'positive' or whatever. while an X is 'negative', as if you've crossed something out. You'll see it in grading in games like Ouendan.

Except it wasn't, it was always X. Some of the early controller designs even had the O at the bottom, until they decided to just knock-off the nintendo style.

When they brought the console to the west, the decided to switch the buttons around for a laugh, and the rest is history.

that took a while to adjust to in the ps3 era for me

Why did they switch them for the west? An X means wrong here too and even if it didn't people would have learned to associate O/X with yes/no anyway

Nobody will ever know. The common assumption is that playtesters in the west, who were all retarded faggots who had never had a controller before, tended to instinctively go for the bottom button instead of the side one, and that's why the American branch decided to change it.

>x is good
>o is bad
>murrican education

An O also means wrong too though in the west.

The point is that affirm should be where you finger naturally rests, not because of some stupid cultural maymay.

Oh damn, looking at this image feels weird...

>An O also means wrong too though in the west.
under what circumstances?

If your course work is being graded and you fuck up they will circle the problem you got wrong and circle where you went wrong as well.

>An O also means wrong too though in the west.
>under what circumstances?
O Hillary Clinton
(X) Donald Trump

>O means 'positive' or whatever. while an X is 'negative
pretty sure that applies to the rest of human population
yeah
you should probably read what you write before posting

Japanese version of japanese game always use O to confirm

Why did SEGA use XY instead of YZ?

That's just a mark to draw attention to the part you got wrong. It's not really the same as an icon of a perfect circle

Because their stubby little fingers naturally rest on the "O" instead of "X" button.

I wonder if that actually is the reason

Not playing PS1 doesn't make you underage. I never had one as a kid, I had a N64 because my family couldn't afford both.

They just canned Z and C for their 4 button layout.

I had no PSX either, because I was PCMR since 1993.

>That's just a mark to draw attention to the part you got wrong.

They still circle the number of the question you got wrong ding dong.

If you get an assignment back and there's a fucking circled problem do you think

>"Gee whiz golly, a circle!! I must have aced it"

Or

>"Aw fuck I screwed the pooch"

If I got back an assignment with a circled problem I'd wonder why the hell my teacher didn't cross it out like a normal person

>grew up with a SNES
>xbox for some reason decided to used the same letters but flip them around
>still fucking up button prompts to this day

I'm weird because my fingers rest between triangle and O??
Right button for accept and top button for cancel sounds quite right tbqh.

Bottom button for accept and left button for cancel makes the most sense

All the people who support the nip way of menus seem to misunderstand that nobody is really caught up on the symbols but rather the positioning. Unless you grew up exclusively using the nip way it's awkward having confirm on the right side. Bottom seems more intuitive. The symbols don't mean diddly fuck cause I don't look at my controller like some 2 year old when I game.

Gamecube shitter detected.

2 nukes

In the Gamecubes defense the physical layout was designed to reinforce it and I never felt awkward going between my Gamecube and PS2.

You chose the image the would hurt me the most didn't you?

Ditto. Every time a QTE comes up my brain sends conflicting signals to my hands.

while Japan doesn't really give a shit about what Microsoft does, PlayStation is Helens by Sony America now so it's not actually that far-fetched to think the mindset changed

ye

>Unless you grew up exclusively using the nip way it's awkward having confirm on the right side. Bottom seems more intuitive.
t. Casual.

Coming from the NES and SNES, it made perfect sense. Stop making excuses for a pointless change.

and the Japanese games had O by default, except mist of us were kids and weren't differentiating between western and Jap games yet

still on mpo+

I don't remember if pw did it.

It would have made more sense for it to be like this:

...Y
B...X
...A

That way B would still be to the left of A, and you also have the benefit of A and B being jump and run like on the NES, instead of B and Y.

To be fair the guy was talking like a faggot.

It depends on the game but from my experience it's usually based on whatever the console running it has it set to. On my modded PS3 I would always play Japanese games and get really frustrated at how for some menus it would make me push circle and some menus it'd make me push X. Ended up just turning on some debug mode to change the confirm button to circle so there wasn't an annoying desparity.

It's even worse if you also played Gamecube.
I never had any problems with Paper Mario TTYD doing that star power that makes you press random buttons but I always have to look down to see what fucking button is X and Y on the 360, even worse if I'm playing on the PC with a DS3/4.

Did the same shit with my Vita.

I think you'll find it's actually just a cultural difference japanese games favour the O as confirm and western games favour X as confirm

Red = stop = cancel
Blue = go = confirm

On electronic switches
X = power flowing = on
O = power blocked = off

X is closer to you = something you want = confirm
O is farther = something you don't want = cancel

X for confirm and o to cancel makes much more mental sense

This feels relevant.

youtube.com/watch?v=e7NJftmHwEg

>all these fucking button layout sperging threads
Open your controller, swap buttons till your autism is satisfied.
Remap buttons in system menu to correspond with your new physical layout.
Fuck off.

This. Western devs have always used X to confirm.

The real question is why they changed it for foreign release. I know the story about Japan having O as correct and x meaning incorrect but why not keep it so its less confusing? Foreign fans would get used to it eventually then it would be universal

The West is right and Nips are wrong.

>Remap buttons in system menu to correspond with your new physical layout.
Can't change the ingame prompts. Not good enough.

>Can't change the ingame prompts.
Why would you need to?
You switch physical X and O as OP wanted.
After that you switch X and O in the System menu.
The prompts would react properly - game asking for X will react to your X only the X will be on the right side instead of bottom.
If you mean you want west using O instead of X for confirmation complain to devs, not about controller layout.

I remember when triangle used to be cancel. Good times.