"Life isn't just about passing on your genes. We can leave behind much more than just DNA. Through speech, music...

>"Life isn't just about passing on your genes. We can leave behind much more than just DNA. Through speech, music, literature and movies... what we've seen, heard, felt... anger, joy and sorrow... these are the things I will pass on. That's what I live for. We need to pass the torch, and let our children read our messy and sad history by its light. We have all the magic of the digital age to do that with. The human race will probably come to an end some time, and new species may rule over this planet. Earth may not be forever, but we still have the responsibility to leave what traces of life we can. Building the future and keeping the past alive are one and the same thing."

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As soon as you reach Arsenal Gear this "game" becomes Kojima's autism at its finest.

It's amazing how ahead of time the story of MGS is. You could look back to MGS1 and see many parallels

youtube.com/watch?v=8TDC9s-Kt-8

History means nothing when people will re-write it. Doing anything but looking to the future is retarded as fuck.

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Redpilled as fuck

He predicted safe spaces and SJWs

It's hard to rewrite history when smartphones and the internet have turned billions of people into unwilling little chronicles.

more like he predicted fake news and alt-right

How was that anything similar to the alt right?

cringe

why was he and senator armstrong "villains"

and solidus too, i didnt want to kill him

That's kind of the point in MGS2 I think.
Raiden isn't the hero. He's a controlled Patriot puppet basically the entire time.

He, the one who wrote the codec conversations. So not Kojima.

What's even MGS saga culture that's been left behind in vidyas world till today?

>I only played MGS & MGS 2 SoL

I played other games after that. Need redpill.

>Earth may not be forever, but we still have the responsibility to leave what traces of life we can
And why is that?
At least he was more cynical in MGS4 and realized all he said in 2 was a giant cringeworthy facebook post.

Can someone translate the post into English?

Solidus, because you had no choice, they outright say that if you don't fight Solidus they will kill Olga's child and Raiden.
The Patriots you don't actually fight them, MGS4 was more about stopping Liquid since they thought he wanted to take control of them, not destroy them.
And they turned war into an endless business, basically what the USA military is now.
And Armstrong wanted to turn USA into Somalia with more modern weapons.

They are not wrong, but they weren't right either.
There's no villains in MGS, just people with different visions of how the world should be.

Not quite. What was Volgin's vision of how the world should be? A world under his boot? He was very much a villianous dictator type due to the whole bond-esque setting.

The screenwriter

DID SOMEONE SAY MEMES?

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>Autism
It's a pretty good philosophical point for a video game, or a movie as some people would call it..

Why and how would I leave traces when everything is going to disappear, you idiot?

go away you dumb memedroid

>wait gotta farts

It's literally bluepilled propaganda
>out vey goyim, the world doesnt need your white genes, just adopt Tryones leftovers and pass on your memes
>you'll be just as equal to the other dads, we promise

Fuck Kojima and fuck God's chosen "people"

>Volgin was a power hungry git
>Skullface was a whiny ba ba boo boo baby
Can't remember Liquids deal was he just butthurt about BB and snek?

But ye the idea that there are no villians is just gay

what

Nah
Fuck women and normalfags like you

>Life isn't just about passing on your genes
Wew, thanks god, I would be fucked.

Zero and Big Boss had told him he was inferior to Solid Snake. I haven't played V, so I don't know if anything else is fleshed out, but I think it was an experiment to see if the warrior genes really matter since Liquid was the one that actually had the genes and Solid just had all the normal stuff. Patriots organized Shadow Moses as the final experiment since it would put the two against each other to settle the question finally.

>As soon as you reach Arsenal Gear this "game" becomes shit

fixed.

Doesn't help that the game uses the Roy AI for an important speech ruining any sort of importance it might of had

That Snake pic. Mfw it was dawn end game. They were all china becuz whaddafak, no sleep whole night to finish final boss. After that they went home good fuck then sleep.

>Says you can pass on more than your genes
>This somehow means he's saying white people shouldn't reproduce

I see. Thanks boss

Theres been a strange influx of broken english tonight I'm guessing its just a bunch of people shit faced from new years.

Why were trips wasted on this monumental faggot

Why do we continue to breed and live?
It's not just because we like to watch little clones of our selves run around, but because we want our offspring to be the best they can, and leave anything as close as they can get to a grand legacy, to succeed and prosper, not just for the sake of improvement, but to show the world in any form it may take whether it's a god in the sky or just a pile of gases and solids in space the beauty and astonishing achievements of complexity and meaning, to simply show what ever may come after us, from a new civilization to a new species that we were more then dumb apes, that we lived and loved, hated and cried.
You could live your life a king and die with nothing to be remembered by, no note in history, or die a well off man and inspire people for centuries.

In short nothing, there is no reason but the one you give it, but that reason could be really nice and tie into human nature in some silly way, and you don't have to be a drab bleak emo kid who thinks nothing matters.

It's all ironic since solid snake can't pass on his own genes, but can pass on his story at least.

Just russia, or at least it's military not the world, he wanted to become a new Stalin, a brute dictator who ruled with control, power and lead Russia into some prosperous age with the legacy and remove america as an enemy and risk to the union right?

Is this samefagging or are Jackie 4Chans relatives posting

Armstrong was actually proved wrong by virtue of might makes right, his own belief. Raiden disagreed about Armstrong's methodology and thus took him down. What Armstrong IS right about in terms of Metal Gear's universe, that Raiden agrees with, is that soldiers are fighting for causes they don't believe in.

Skullface wanted to apply the ''peace'' US and URSS had during the Cold War to the entire planet, while destroying USA and freeing it from the influence it could have on the world, making this situation change.

Well said.

god, aliens, future humanity in big space ships and shit.

Everything in the universe is going to disapear but that is like 139.3e x 692 decades into the future, and our lives are even shorter so we should pass on and keep "alive" everything we've learned in life, and all the culture and interesting things we've made.

Like that shakespear dude who wrote that love poem like 300 years ago about that one chick who was his 13 year old cousin or whatever and he liked ravens, and like he was all like you're a summer day and just like the sun when i put you in this poem and shit you'll last as long as the sun for as long as man can read or whatever, because she's immortalized into that sonnet thing, and jesus too with the whole bible.

Someday, if humanity is still a thing, we'll have to leave the Solar system.

nigga, Snake was born sterile

I've heard like 3 interpretations of skullfaces plan that game is a mess

How do we do this when the moon landing was already fake?

Because nihilism is babby's first philosophy and anyone who has matured even the slightest bit understands that if nothing matters on a cosmic scale, then human scale is the only thing that is or ever will be important

The time you spend alive matters infinitely more than the infinity you'll spend dead

But that's literally what he wanted, he literally tells you.
>use parasites to destroy USA and prevent them from having control, due to Cipher being a thing
>unleash Sahelanthropus to make the world shit itself
>sell cheap, easy to transport nukes to everyone to achieve worldwide nuclear deterrence
That's it.

Does he say it during the jeep ride by any chance?

Are you retarded? Arsenal is the only good part of the game, MGS2 is literally the >It gets goods70 hours in.

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>B-babbies first
Every time.
What you describes is based on nihilism because you couldn't have that philisophy without going through nihilism first. And it's still part of it.

You yourself can make a little experiment to prove that we went to the moon.
When we got there, NASA planted some reflectors on the moon.
With a powerful enough laser, you can make it reach there, reflect and bounce back into the Earth.
You just get yourself a reflector, and you can actually detect it coming back into it.
That cringeworthy TV show, Big Bang Theory, actually showed more or less how this would work.
They were used by NASA to calculate exactly how far the Moon is.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment

Sometimes I wish I was dumb enough to believe in god

In part, Code Talker also tells you about it when you rescue him.

Yes, and thats part of the reason you should pass on your memes so your children can have a better future, trying to ignore your stories about the man with the golden hair who lied to everyone and fucked them over, and all those dank sick M E M E S and rare pepes AND HOW THOSE FUCKING NORMIES ON FUNNY JUNK AND REDDIT STOLE ALL YOUR FUNNY JOKES!!!!

Yes but what about the yeti?!

This is a pic from one of the experiments, and you can do it yourself.
It will cost quite a bit since such a laser is really expensive, but hey, it's neat.

What, exactly, did Snake pass on? He died a virgin and all he managed to do was unwittingly work for the patriots. All his cool battlefield tipz he passed on to Raiden were wasted because he became a mercenary and a edgelord who slices children. Then kojima retconned his cardboard box trick and it's not even his anymore, but he's dad's.
He's the only snake that matters, but he didn't pass on shit other than murdering more people than the bubonic plague.

>Arsenal is the only good part of the game

tanker was also good.

Arsenal is when the game jumped the shark and not in a good way

I've seen people claim the reason they didn't understand is because the way it's explained is needlessly convoluted and pretentious

Code Talker just literally tells you what's going on.
Skullface just goes on on a rant about why he's so angry at Zero.

He fucked Meryl a lot and he passed his maymay on to Raiden. And us. Except I dislike it.

>He fucked Meryl
Nah m8 he just fingered her a little.

>Skullface just goes on on a rant about why he's so angry at Zero.
That's probably what they meant

>Nihlism
youtube.com/watch?v=QeYEsaydrtI
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>Humanism or whatever you call it
The universe is massive and we are but a speck so we should focus on how great and lasting we can make our flicker of time, we should strive to give things meaning and grandness rather then sit around and mope.

>And they turned war into an endless business, basically what the USA military is now.
>now
Nigger the war economy has been a thing since WW2 if not earlier. Fucking Eisenhower gave a speech about the military industrial complex taking over the nation.

there needs to be a meryl and solid snake edit of this on a snowmobile

Except Snake and Meryl DID fuck. It didn't work out in the end, sure, but you bet your ass Snake infiltrated that 18 year old pussy every day for a good month after Shadow Moses.

He passed on all his cool solider knowledge stuff to all the people he knew like meryl, huey, and raiden and shit pants guy. He also passed on a better future for all of american and the world by being a one man G I joe.
His sperm as as inferential as a fallout character who is a ghoulified Japanese Hiroshima victim who was then turned into a super mutant.

that was my highschool yearbook quote

All Big Boss clones were sterile.

>Except Snake and Meryl DID fuck
There was no penatretian, I checked.

Yeah I know, it still accepts that fuckall matters which is nihilistic and that's why you should basically stop thinking about it so much and focus on the human scale you can comprehend. I don't see how that's so much more mature, you can just accept that fuckall matters period and still make life as good as possible for yourself and live with what you have. I believe it's still a way better life than the people had back then and in some regions even still now where they were afraid of having fun because they'd go to hell.

So, Solid Snake is a fucking Jpn Kamikaze? Dead for the sakè of the livings?

Thats Kojima's sublimino?

>Nihilism equals depression
Are you actual high school dropouts trying to get into philosophy?

No, he says he's going to work on doing the best for humanity and leave that as his legacy.

This is a game about a steryl soldier?

>kek?

Why am i following this threeaadd???!

It equals useless ideas that is harbored by emo kids

Steryl?

Me-Meryl?

Seems like that topic in general is a bit too complicated for you

Snake's speech is too wishy-washy, compared to Solidus' hardline speech.

>The human race will probably come to an end some time, and new species may rule over this planet.

Raiden was all pumped to fight the Patriots, and Snake stops him and implies it's the AIs time to rule!

nice beta-cuck philosophy you have there, kojimbo

he predicted dank memes

You now realize in the third paragraph, between the third and second to last sentences the writer missed a space.

>We need to pass the torch, and let our children read our messy and sad history by its light.

History is written by jews and winners, it rarely explains what actually happened.

Go ask Sup Forums about Solyndra. see how many remember that shit.

It should be particularly entertaining considering the news media is blasting everyone with specials of how "good" Obama has been.

>smartphones and the internet have turned billions of people into unwilling little chronicles.
Are you for fucking real nigger? Have you ever heard of Brave New World?

MGS2 and the original Deus Ex (but not the sequels) are the most woke video games.
>Morpheus: Human beings feel pleasure when they are watched. I have recorded their smiles as I tell them who they are.
>JC Denton: Some people just don't understand the dangers of indiscriminate surveillance.
>Morpheus: The need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by God. Now we can implement the same functionality with data-mining algorithms.
>JC Denton: Electronic surveillance hardly inspires reverence. Perhaps fear and obedience, but not reverence.
>Morpheus:God and the gods were apparitions of observation, judgement and punishment. Other sentiments towards them were secondary.
>JC Denton: No one will ever worship a software entity peering at them through a camera.
>Morpheus: The human organism always worships. First, it was the gods, then it was fame (the observation and judgement of others), next it will be self-aware systems you have built to realize truly omnipresent observation and judgment.
>JC Denton: You underestimate humankind's love of freedom.
>Morpheus: The individual desires judgment. Without that desire, the cohesion of groups is impossible, and so is civilization.

I clearly remember a Youtube video where Snake shoots himself in the end.. meh

Sorry not a MGS playah

Is there a more redpilled game?

Just finished MGS2 for the first time, didn't understand the ending at all, hope all this shit is explained in MGS3 and its not just an empy shit ending like Evangelion. Btw why did campbell survive if he was the A.I. in arsenal , was cambell an A.I. in MGS? What was the poin of the SSS plan?