>Originally a Chosen King >Took it upon himself to heal the people by taking the Starscourge into himself >The Gods declare him an abomination and rescind their choice and choose his jealous brother/relative to be the Chosen King instead >The relative then proceeds to trash his reputation >Unable to die and unable to move on to the afterlife
So basically the Six were assholes and Ardyn did nothing wrong?
Ardyn could have tried to be a hero even in exile, instead he chose petty revenge and nearly destroyed the world as a result. He's the biggest asshole of them all.
David Jones
/thread fpbp
Ryan Perry
Ifrit started the starcourge but then he appears in the Citadel to "help" Ardyn and fight with Noct and the 4 bros.
Ifrit is literally the reason Ardyn was give the task to heal the people infected, how the fuck did they become "friends"?
why doens't Ardyn hate Ifrit?
Hunter Nguyen
I don`t justify Ardyn (I`m tired of of "immortal man with superpowers tired of his immortality" trope), but Astrals just idiotic. I don`t understand why their just fix thir problems by themselves.
Jacob Lewis
The person who first started doing those shaky Ultimania translation apparently came back and is doing some snippets/glossing.
>Crystal:
>Enormous magical power. Was created by the astrals/stars (around?) 2000 years ago and given to the kin of the time by the six gods. The king of lucis is in charge of protecting the crystal, in exchange for being able to use its power freely. In addition, when a disaster arises the crystal may select a king. The last king to be nominated this way was Noctis, 15 years ago. The Nifelheim empire has been aiming to take the power of the crystal for a long time.
What's stopping the Gods from starting this shit all over again?
Alexander Foster
*teleports on your face*
Ryder Miller
It's obvious. Both probably have a dislike for humanity and the gods. So they formed a pact. For all we know, Ardyn could summon him to use hellfire during the fight. Lazy, got to make humans suffer for kicks, FNC remains. Same thing stopping the scourge from returning. Nothing.
Hunter Cox
What's the point in creating the Crystal?
Cameron Walker
>Same thing stopping the scourge from returning. >Nothing. I smell a sequel. Yeah I know they said that they wouldn't, but a lot of things were said.
Zachary Edwards
Good question.
Mason Cook
I really don't want a sequel. Just DLC me.
James Flores
Where is that hentai of FFXV with all girls?
Julian James
I wish the same animation for Ardyn.
Caleb Bailey
...
Adam King
cant they extract their models for SFM?
Blake Ross
Ever read The Silmarillion? Whenever gods get directly involved the whole world gets destroyed in the process. Sending out a few chosen ones keeps collateral damage to a minimum, I imagine.
Sebastian Carter
>Gladious Amicitia >Cup Noodles >Masturbation
And I lost it.
Joshua Stewart
What part of cleaning up your mess while enjoying human suffering do you not understand? >cleans up Ifrit's tantrum well >causes a war that lasted centuries and had spectacular skirmishes >chosen prince dilemma ends with soap drama
Christian Morgan
Only for games on PC or something.
Julian Gomez
...
Matthew Smith
:(
Andrew Collins
Jesus Christ, I read that in his voice.
Leo Robinson
It`s over, this fandom doesn`t need fanfiction anymore. >tfw when Cup Noodles got trailer, quest and have more screentime than """""important"""" characters
Evan Wilson
Pryna and Umbra porn when?
Josiah Cook
I hope never. Doggos are pure.
Robert Scott
As far as I can tell, Ardyns fuck up was how he chose to handle his downfall. Noctis had to die ( or enter the "afterlife") to pay for his power, and accepted that condition.
Ardyn did his good deed and expected to be rewarded for it - and when he wasn't acknowledged by the crystal/light - he took it personally.
It's literal Jesus "father why have you forsaken me?" if Jesus got pissed at daddy for what happened to him instead of accepting it.
Daniel Moore
>those noses
Kevin Rodriguez
You sound like you haven't see the one with all of the girls. Now that was horrific.
Connor Phillips
The gods and that one king were assholes. Regis and Noctis didn't do shit. He had no reason to hate them.
Alexander Rogers
Dumblr just can`t into good noses. At least "red noses" shit now almost gone.
Zachary Brooks
>It's just a scribble That's ultra fucking lazy.
Bentley Hall
...
Adam Reed
Can`t wait to see Ignis/Ebony or Noctis/Coleman. And Vyv/Prompto/photo camera treesome.
Isaac Brooks
It was Gladio who's the Coleman fan. So he gets to fuck Cup Noodle and the tent.
Tyler Thompson
Still better lovestory than Noctis and Luna.
Noctis can masturbate to notebook.
Jordan Nguyen
>The description of the Notebook changes by the end of the game depending on what you wrote back
>The pages are stuck together
Jaxon Edwards
This.
Was he treated unfairly as fuck? Sure, no doubt about that. Does that justify taking revenge on the whole world living 2000 years after that happened? Hell no.
If he wanted revenge, he should have took it against those who deserved it, but doing what he did was just petty.
Lincoln Powell
Noctis can fuck a fish.
Jose Wood
prompto changed my dick user
>got ffxv for xmas think wth play it >see twink, protein shake, four eyes, and moody and not think much of it >get to know moody >get to know moody's backstory >can't stop thinking about exploring each others dicks gently because we're both new to other men >first time is awkward and makes us uncomfortable we vow to never can't speak of it again >can't help ourselves >eventually prompto comes over to dim lights and lit candles and we take our time to learn what each other likes and about ourselves >accept new reality as queerfag
Angel Morales
...
Gavin Adams
samefag
i meant twink* wth sorry guys
William Smith
Prompto is a starter husbando and you should feel bad.
Landon Rogers
Just to think about the scale here, imagine someone scrwing up the current day world for some injustice made in year 16. There's literally no way anyone could see that as justifiable.
Jacob Thompson
>“Gladio earned his scar protecting the prince from a drunken stranger some two years before the trip. Of course, he could have prevented it by counterattacking the offender, but Gladio would rather take the hit than harm a citizen of the Crown City.”
And this wasn't in Brotherhood because...?
That would have put more stock in their relationship.
Joshua Carter
i just want his fat cg dick so bad user
Justin Wright
Nah, starter husbando is Noctis. He is MC after all.
Wyatt Harris
Who cares about characters like Emperor, Ravus or Verstael when you can have Cup-fucking-Noodles by Nissin?
Jaxon Harris
>Gladio express more love for Cup Noodles than Noctis for Luna
David Morris
I did say 'a' and not 'the'. Prompto is for those who have no ambition. While Noctis is for those who want to be temporary gold diggers.
You want a fat dick? Go for Ardyn. Dude's got meat.
Nicholas Perry
He's a big guy.
Nolan Lee
Well, to be fair, if you did your duty that was ordained by the gods and was rewarded for it by being told "lol no" by said gods and then betrayed by your brother and shunned by the very masses you helped...
Oh yeah, and said ordained duty makes you immortal, so you can't even kill yourself. Why not fuck with the world that fucked with you in revenge?
Ardyn is tragic, even though he's done terrible things.
Jose James
:I that bulge is lacking user
>:C i want promptos plumpto
Carson Campbell
>immortality >bad Poor Ardyn, he spent 2000 years as sexy, immortal motherfucker.
Logan Roberts
That's how I imagine they told him >Time for Ardyn to ascend >Bahamut: lol, no
Ayden Jones
I unironically find moments like Gladio's love for cup noodles more endearing than generic characters like muh evil generic emperor and muh discount sephiroth moping about
I don't find the exclusion of a lot of the politics and """"worldbuilding""" in FFXV to be that grievous of an offense because the story isn't about the Empire or the Kingdom, it's about four guys in a car and the bonds of brotherhood that form between them.
Noah Cruz
>no way fag
Easton Lopez
He had to wait 2000 years either way since that was the only chance he had to die.
Noah Garcia
Well the Cup Noodle thing was very obviously a joke, and to me it lighten it up a bit. Though at the time I thought I was having an aneurysm because of how surreal it was.
Levi Torres
>muh discount sephiroth moping about I personally think that he is interesting (and as concept more interesting than Chosen One MC №56589809887), but his character was wrecked in movie and in game he is irrelevant.
Xavier Scott
>16 17
Samuel Wilson
I get what you are going for, but the game still handled the big picture too badly even if the focus was on the four main characters. There's just no excuse for how badly the plot was told.
David Allen
shiiiit
David Stewart
Even main4 is kinda flat. I`ve expected something in Dragon Age style - personal quests or something, but SE just jew us with DLCs. Promto is the best written (not for everyone`s taste, tho), but his MT/Niff thing was out of nowhere. Ignis is likeable, but we did`nt learn about him much. Fucking drama CD has more information about his family than game. Gladio is just... weird. As it was said in leak - he is poorly developed.
Hunter Carter
Basically it would be like the British prime minister starting a nuclear war just because she got wronged by King Herod back in the first days of Gregorian calendar.
David Morris
THAT'S IT
Jordan Peterson
Gladio just sounds a bit too pissed off all the time. I don't mind him being like that when he actually is pissed off, but it annoys me when he sounds like that when there's no reason to it.
William Price
>let's make three your main party and the focus of the game! >but the game is REALLY about noctis and stella--errr, LUNAFREYA. Yes. >give them random interesting things in the backstory to make them deep! >don't explain things like how ignis became blind or why prompto is an mt. that stuff is for losers! >aranea is more interesting than the bros and is a fan favorite? We can't have that!
Nolan Wilson
>Ignis is likeable, but we did`nt learn about him much. Fucking drama CD has more information about his family than game. Like what? I want to know. >Gladio is just... weird. As it was said in leak - he is poorly developed. I'll fight you. Talk about one's husbando will get you murdered around these parts. Yeah, some of his lines do seem like he's mad when he actually isn't.
Hunter Jenkins
It's certainly flawed in a lot of ways, but I feel like the supposed criticisms are overblown because people are used to Final Fantasy having needlessly grandiose plots that explain every single autistic detail of the world
Final Fantasy XV is about creating a personal connection through the player's own experiences and relationship with the four main characters. The last campfire and the photo you chose being at Noctis' side in the afterlife was a lot more meaningful than needlessly explaining why the Emperor was evil (because he's a bad guy durrrr) or why Ravus was a mopey faggot
Juan Turner
>Like what? I want to know His uncle, his cooking hobby, etc. I didn`t read full script yet, but drama CD has a lot of interesting details.
Dominic Green
Damn, got a link to a translation?
Easton Powell
>and is a fan favorite We all know why she is fan favorite and interesting, and there is nothing with actual story.
>Noctis, was eager to get his driving licence, but hates driving with the busy roads and rather sleeps as a passenger. Sleeps alot and never cleans up his room.
>Prompto, gets nervous around woman easily, rarely sees his parents at home, was just recently trained by the Crownsguard in fightning, very focused in photography so much that he didn't notice Iris calling him.
>Gladiolus, his family is part of protecting the King. He protects the prince while his father protects the King. His family is quite busy and they just recently got a chance to have a family dinner.
>Ignis, his uncle works close with the King, sees himself not as a great cook, but wants to experiment and learn new dishes with foreign ingredients, has been babysitting the Prince since he was a child and assisted the Prince during his childhood injury, has never driven outside of the city.
>Iris seems to be saddened of Noctis's trip/marriage. Jealously or just sad he's leaving? Wants to support Noctis all the way. Has never called Noctis on the phone before even though she has his number.
Owen Gomez
People like you ruined Dragon Age.
Dylan Watson
Thanks user.
Levi Miller
>it's about four guys in a car and the bonds of brotherhood that form between them except the entire second half of the game that seriously needed worldbuilding if they wanted to tell a coherent and engaging story
Aaron Allen
>why is your face so fat? >I'm not fat! Selfies make it look that way!
Lincoln Fisher
Dragon Age was mediocre tripe to begin with, the EA acquisition and SJW canadian writers made it even worse
Isaac Gonzalez
>or why prompto is an mt. translation error
Aiden Collins
CUT IT OUT MAN
Jonathan Sullivan
So he's our guy, right?
David Bennett
Has anyone thought that absorbing all of the demons changed Ardyns personality and made him a bad guy? Maybe that's part of the reason why the lucii didn't accept him, not just because he absorbed demons. Just finished the game an hour ago, almost made me cry but I'm bummed it just sends you back to your last save. Wish we could play a little bit in the future that we saved
Owen Brown
the relationship we get with the main characters isn't handeled all that well either. Gladio gets angry with Noctis multiple times for reasons that are poorly explained to the player which is why so many people think he's just an asshole, Ignis really doesn't have a real stand out moment in the story, he just goes blind with no explanation and everyone feels bad for him. Prompto was handeled the best out of the main group but his MT thing is just dropped and doesn't effect the group's relationship at all so it may as well not be a thing. I get a lot of stuff is held back for dlc but it still harms the supposed good part of the story. Oh and I forgot to talk about Luna but I really don't think I need to explain how poorly she was handeled.
Kevin Flores
This is not normal
Aiden Myers
How were those aspects badly handled? I didn't think there was a problem with it. The only thing I agree with how we really didn't get to interact with Luna.
Adam Jenkins
Hey guys - what's the best weapon in the game?
Benjamin Robinson
Unless I missed something, I don't think there was any indication that Ardyn expected to be rewarded, he was just super pissed that he got royally fucked for being a good dude.
He was probably just so disillusioned at the gods' injustice that it made him feel like the world wasn't worth shit if it's gods are such shitbags. It probably made him a little crazy, and time just made it worse. He is not a good guy at that point obviously, because that's precisely the mentality of a bad guy, and his revenge is unreasonable disregard for innocent people.
Nonetheless, it's not hard to see how he was driven to such cynicism. In real life someone with his attitude could easily be regarded as an angsty, immature, cynic, but in his world it's not like he just read some Schopenhauer and became edgy; he actually has legit reasons for being driven to that point of view.
Hudson Baker
>a little crazy >a little >rotten_bodies_hanging_around
Gabriel Diaz
They're not real!
Nolan Bailey
>They're called gods >Humans can kill them >It's not even that fucking hard, it's not like in God of War where killing the gods resulted in the earth being basically destroyed
Why did anyone give a shit about them, exactly?
Xavier Lee
So umbra entered oblivion with everyone so that's what allows noct to travel in to the past post game, right? So in a way they are immortal, right? ;-;
Jonathan Adams
>time made it worse
Did you not even read the whole sentence?
Ryan Reed
So you're saying we wait a few more years for Jesus to get back at us for what the Romans did to him?
Elijah Foster
Ardyn for best villain
Jace Sanchez
i legit would love a game centered on his story and rise to a villain.
I do agree though, his grudge was ridiculous, but at the same time i understand his anger and hatred.
Colton Jenkins
Most people didn't give a shit about them, even gladio said he thought gods were just a myth until his adventure with noctis. Normal people can't kill the gods, chosen kings with godly powers kill them. And don't complain when gods from a different game are different
Kevin Flores
Well noct trained his whole life, had to do really specific and well timed things and had his company's help to achieve their power, so it's not that easy. Plus they're basically testing him to see if he's worthy to use their power and it's towards their own goal, they're not malevolent
Aiden Diaz
Supposedly they were originally just meant to be summons like in every other FF but they changed it for some reason obviously without thinking it through.
Owen Barnes
>Took it upon himself to heal the people by taking the Starscourge into himself
That wasn't his job. If I gave you a job to do something and you go off and do something else, I'd fire you and find a new employee.