What were they thinking?

What were they thinking?

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They're taking steps to futureproof themselves.

If it ports the best of the Wii U library, gets a bunch of top quality new games, gets HD remasters of the Galaxy games without retarded waggle control shit AND gets a brand new Galaxy game, has proper online account infrastructure for eshop purchases AND is under 250 euros, and includes a standard controller with the console, then, and ONLY then would I consider buying it.

Sick of Nintendo's shit and anti consumer practices. Very much a case of proceed with caution. Glad I didn't fall for the Wii U meme.

>What were they thinking?
They weren't.

KNOCK OFF THESE CONSOLE WAR THREADS YOU GODDAMN EUROSHITS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>How about we do the absolute objectively best possible thing?
Something like that.

>'so basically we abandoned all the features of the WiiU gamepad yet people keep using it'
>"for what?"
>'to play games and watch netflix without a TV'
>"that's our new console"
And that's how the Switch was born

>nintendo
>anti-consumer
But Nintendo is the least anti-consumer company in the industry

The other 2 just suck off cancerous 3rd parties and don't do anything to prevent the ever-hastening death of the industry. At least Nintendo's always trying something different.

Then why didn't they? Nobody asked for an underpowered tablet.

>But Nintendo is the least anti-consumer company in the industry
Nintendildos unironically believe that.

If the Switch is a tablet, the fucking Vita and 3DS are tablets.

Enjoy your ban, Euroshit.

People asked for a hybrid console, and thats what they delivered.

The best possible option, as said before.

>being this bootydamaged

TABLET
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NOT AN ARGUMENT

NOT A TABLET

>People asked for a hybrid console
They did? I sure as fuck didn't.

The Switch is a tablet
With detachable controls

You arent people.

A tablet is a computer. You can do all sorts of stuff on it
The switch is a game console. You play games on it.

>But Nintendo is the least anti-consumer company in the industry

You must be b8ing me, user.

>No unified cross platform account system
multiple gimmick peripherals out the arse ( waggle shit, steering wheel, gun attachments, motion plus coz buy new controllers, no pro controller as standard, no charger with new 3DS, no optical option on Wii U for surround, no support for Wii U etc etc etc)

Do I need to keep going?

Why don't you faggots just say you want Nintendo to be Sony?

"duhhh let's make another system for no reason, fuck common sense"

That there is no point in making a third console that is simply an underpowered PC.
That there is literally no reason to buy a console anymore since PC building is now easier than ever.
That people want something that gives them a reason to buy the console.

What reason do you buy a PS4 or Xbone.

I identify as people, shitlord. Check your singlistic privilege.

You are a console war faggot and don't deserve to be called a person. You deserve to get your ass kicked.

Nintendo insider here, basically there are two factions in Nintendo right now, and the NX was intentionally made an unsellable piece of shit by the faction that wants the company to stop producing hardware and focus on games.

It's literally a tablet tho

Remove the joycons and it is tautologically a tablet.

The Switch is literally a tablet with attachable controller.

lmao

>being normal and agreeable = being Sony

Would yoy eat a turd to defy Sony? No? Then you shouldn't buy awful Nintendo hardware either

>It's a "Sup Forums thinks they're the only video game audience that exists" episode

Its actually a console with removable controllers.

>People asked for a hybrid console

Nice revisionist history lesson.

Post what you think is normal, whitey.

>a fucking tablet

When your consoles are constantly failing, yet your handhelds are nearly always successful, the only solution left is to go full handheld and have it able to display to the tv to try to keep both sides, while gaining all the strengths of the handhelds, and none of the console weaknesses.

>nintendo is kind of tacky, jewish, and behind the times

>Microsony suck 3rd party dick to the point where they design entire consoles exactly so that 3rd parties can put shitty overpriced overbudgeted games on them
>each Microsony generation increases game budgets exponentially, and that level of competition drives hundreds of high-quality developers out of business because they simply can't get enough sales
>even modern AAA titles are massive failures if they don't reach 10m sales to break even
>the risks involved in development have turned games into flashy shitty, overmarketed messes with no real appeal
>the death of the industry is imminent and nobody seems to care but Nintendo
But, no, NINTENDO is the bad guy here.

>No unified cross platform account system
They are literally working on that right now.

Am I the only one on Sup Forums looking forward to the Switch? I really loved the 3DS and hated the Wii U, so I'm glad they're taking their consoles in a portable direction.

Nintendo games have never needed the graphical edge that their competitors do since they rely solely on fun. I'm just glad they finally decided to do away with all the gimmicky controls and do something more traditional.

>people want an underpowered tablet in [current year] because it'll have Mario
>never mind that Mario on smart devices was a pile of ass nobody liked
I'm sure in some other planet this is considered critical thinking, but the downside to their plan is this is earth.

>it's a "Nintendrones think Nintendo is correct despite a failed console and rapidly shrinking market share" episode

Most people look forward to it, but as you can see threads now are mostly just shitposting.

Enjoy your ban.

>Why don't you faggots just say you want Nintendo to be Sony?

I want quality games on decent hardware that isn't completely outdated at a reasonable price.

Here's what I don't want: Getting fucked in the ass like Wii U owners did.

>I want quality games on decent hardware
Well you're not gonna get that on any system this gen.

>For years, people complain about needing to buy a handheld for some games, and a console for others, from the SAME company
>Their consoles having long game droughts with nothing to play
>They finally make a single device that covers both people
>"I didn't ask for this"

Yes you did. Fucking everybody did.

Most Nintendo fans on Sup Forums have really given up on trying to discuss them. You can't have a good Nintendo thread any more, some dedicated shitposter always comes in and starts an argument.

Of course, Reddit is the complete opposite. You go on the Switch reddit and try to be even remotely realistic about the Switch's capabilities and you get downvoted into oblivion. God forbid anyone think that MAYBE GTAVI won't be Switch-exclusive.

>whitey

Ow the edge

Focusing on your strengths is normal.
Accepting your weaknesses and compensating them with cooperation is normal.
In Nintendo's case, their strength is game design. Their glaring weakness is their cheap shit hardware. Any sensible company in that situation would start using someone else's hardware in order to elevate the value of their software. But Nintendo is too deluded for that, typical Japanese hybris.

>Would you eat a turd to defy Sony?

Yes, I have. Most people on this board have in fact done this exact thing. I suggest you go back to Neogaf if you wouldn't.

>I want quality games on decent hardware

Then you want a PC with PC games.

Post a good company right now.

That makes it seem as if hardware mattered, which is nonsense.

If that was the case people would not buy consoles ever.

It's suffering being a nintendo fan and/or idort

Honestly, RDR2 probably wont ever come to Switch either

I know this feel.

Bully: Scholarship Edition>The Warriors>GTA: San Andreas>>>>>>>>Red Dead Redemption

I am excited as well. Its really a direction I have been waiting for them to go for a long time. Their software development was split in two, one for console games, and one for handheld games. Now, even if it doesn't get third party games, it will get twice as many games as the Wii U was getting. Plus, its a handheld, so it will likely get plenty of handheld third party support. And if stuff like Pokemon and Monster Hunter can carry it into 3DS levels of hardware sales, it will likely get console third party support soon after. Its literally becoming everything I wanted from Nintendo, I just really can't see why someone would be against this outcome.

Obsidian Entertainment
Software is bound to the confinement of hardware, so naturally hardware matters. Faster processing units, higher resolutions and more RAM enable smoother, clearer and deeper games. Plus, newer hardware is always more efficient and thus more cost-effective. There's no reason not to use advanced hardware. There are many reasons to avoid outclassed, old shit like the Maxwell crap used in Nintendo Switch.

>Obsidian Entertainment
>Knights of the Old Republic II
>Fallout: New Vegas

White faggot.

>M-muh underpowered shitposting
>M-muh leaks

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Wow, that seems oddly similar, almost as if the retarded leak was in fact an early devkit which journalists just "accidentally" forgot to mention and is not representative of the actual console.

Not that I think Switch will be more powerful or as powerful as PS4, it'll be as powerful as Xbone at best but even that is not that likely I think.

You asked for a good company, not a perfect one.

Hardware has only been increasing but games are getting more and more shallow while also running worse.
The majority of the games that are being made today couldve been made for the PS2 ignoring the graphics.

You are wrong.
Only the most actually hardware dependent games like war sims benefit from power these days, and they dont make those for consoles anyways.

You are still a white faggot.

>Deflecting to other companies.

This thread is about the Switch. Having said that, both Microsoft and Sony offer better consoles with unified accounts and proper online infrastructure and VERY reasonable, consumer friendly pricing.

The Wii U by comparison is a dead console which has fewer games, is less powerful and yet somehow MORE expensive than both PS4 and Xbone.

Amazing.

>This thread is about the Switch
You know OP was trying to make another fucking console war bait thread. You're probably the OP anyway. Kill yourself you white faggot.

The leak is almost definitely an older devkit, but the real thing isn't going to be that much stronger. A longer battery life, maybe a 10-20% boost in power, but that'll be about it.

It's not like the thing needs that much power, though. I'd way rather that Nintendo plant their feet firmly and try to cultivate something playable in the barren wastes of the industry than chase after the power fairy like Sony and Microsoft.

The incentivization of smaller titles is the way of the future. Smaller developers will be able to make games without risking going out of business completely, new developers will be able to enter the industry, and AAA developers will be able to test out new ideas in a nurturing environment, instead of being forced to go all-in on their biggest, least-risky titles.

>VERY reasonable, consumer friendly pricing.
lmao

WOOF

>Deflecting to other companies.
>This thread is about the Switch.
This comment chain is about whether or not Nintendo is the worst company. A discussion of other companies is VERY pertinent to that conversation.

And again
>nintendo is a little jewish and behind the times
>sony and microsoft are literally killing the entire industry

I mean the whole console has to fit inside the tablet. It's not going to have to power of an Xbox One.

I prefer gaming on console. Sitting at a desk in my leisure time doesn't appeal to me.

Nah, you just don't want to admit I have a very strong point against this upcoming system. For example, nearly all games benefit from high frame rates. Not just visually, but gameplay-wise as well. The increase in RAM allows for ever more complex assets in any game, and higher resolutions can have subtle positive effects on gameplay as well. Switch will be lackluster in these aspects and many of its games will be worse than they could be because of that. Nintendo should have retreated from the hardware business, for their own sake.

It can run Unreal Engine 4 on high when docked so it'll be strong enough for that; Xbone and PS4 are able to run the engine on max I recall.

...

They were thinking they'd try to sell us their next shitty handheld but throw in a $3.00 dock and tell us it's a console so they could charge $300 for the system and $60 for the games.

You cant even argue my points.
Its hilarious.

>Having said that, both Microsoft and Sony offer better consoles
Subjective.
>with unified accounts
Just one device =/= unified.
>and proper online infrastructure
Out of all the times I play Splatoon, or Mario Kart 8 only, I have never suffered from lag. So I consider Nintendo's online infrastructure to be proper.
>and VERY reasonable, consumer friendly pricing.
Not only is it UNFORGIVABLE that they charge for online at all, but that line makes you sound like a marketer shill. So fuck off marketer shill.

What makes you believe PC gaming requires a desk?

>Japanese EA is the least anti-consumer company in the industry
Go fuck yourself. I hope this shit bombs so people like you waste their money.

user. Konami is Japanese EA.

>and proper online infrastructure and VERY reasonable, consumer friendly pricing.
>defending paid online

Fag

What's so funny?

You can get a PS4 or Xbone new with a game included for sub €/$250 and both consoles have a large library of games.

That's pretty reasonable.

Can we just say that all systems have their strengths and weaknesses?

Your points just aren't very good. Your technical ineptitude shows because you actually believe the difference between PS2 and modern hardware to be cosmetic. That's asinine. Games today are multitudes more complex than the average PS2 title. Software can't advance without hardware advancing alongside it.

Both the ps4 and xbone have extremely outdated hardware.
They also come with extra hidden costs like forced online fees that actually make them closer to 500$ at best.

Games are also much more expensive. Multiple WiiU games launched at 40€. Your average PS4 game is 70 these days.

Nintendo's pricing disqualifies itself due to digital versions of full games being just as expensive as their physical counterparts. Free online or not, that is some severe unacceptable ripoff shit.

>Games today are multitudes more complex than the average PS2 title

>Games today are multitudes more complex than the average PS2 title.
That is wrong. Games are getting more dumber because of high development costs for big graphics so they have to be designed for the pleb masses.

Assets being more expensive also leads to shitty linear map design because designing big and detailed maps is too much work and too expensive.
The alternative currently is empty open world garbage games with the same assets pasted over and over.

Back then we used to get games like Devil May Cry. Now we get games with autocombat like Batman.
Such a great improvement.

Last I checked, PC gaming has nothing to do with a desk.

Digital versions on all systems are as expensive as physically these days.
Only exception is PC because PC literally has no physical anymore.

>sony and microsoft are literally killing the entire industry

How? By offering reasonably priced consoles which don't rely on gimmicks?
By having proper online infrastructure and a digital publishing platform which is convenient and cost effective for smaller developers and indies?

You're wrong. Nobody is killing the industry. AAA developers make what consumers purchase the most. This has always been the case.

There are more games and more variety than ever before. The problem is trying to grow the market fast enough to keep up with the amount of games being released.

Anyway, fuck this off topic shit.

Buying a game = spending money once.
Paying for online = the consoles lifetime.
So no, the online is far more expensive then Nintendo's terrible horrible $60 games, which overtime DO go down in price overall.

>reasonably priced consoles
lmao

>digital versions of full games being just as expensive as their physical counterparts

Yeah? Same for Sony and Microsoft. The digital prices are the same as the physical ones, most of the time in fact the digital prices remain the same as the price the games were when they came out new.

Keyboard and mouse do, and I'm not manchild enough to have a mouse and keyboard in my living room every time I switch on the PC to play a game. Consoles just offer that ease of use and comfort factor.

>reasonably priced consoles
You didn't buy them at launch. Also, the PS4Pro is still $400, and apparently anyone should pick that over the vanilla PS4 because graphics and performance matter, guys.

>Nobody is killing the industry.
You're blatantly wrong. Dozens of studios have been forced out of business by the rising costs of development. Those who have survived are now relegated to making a very tiny number of massively overbudgeted games, leaving them no time for more creative pursuits, ala Square Enix.

>There are more games and more variety than ever before.
Indie garbage, maybe, but you're literally 10 years old if you think that this generation, or even last generation, have been anywhere NEAR on par with even just the PS2's library. That was a fucking golden age. This generation can't even fucking hold up to the last generation.

The increased complexity of games says nothing about their quality, you morons. You're also completely mistaken about the financial aspect, because anyone can make a game of any size nowadays. Be it a single broke guy or Rockstar Games with 1000+ people per project, both can reach success. We never had more flexibility in software engineering. You're also a bunch of nostalgic sods who can't stop identifying with an old, mostly forgotten platform and the generally regressing Japanese game industry.

>Consoles just offer that ease of use, comfort factor, paid online, underpowered garbage hardware, and unoptimized terrible games over all

Fixed that for you.
Never forget, the price for "ease of use" and "comfort factor" is "universal acceptance that you don't mind underpowered hardware".

So remember, next time you want to complain about some game device being weak in hardware, you already told everyone you accepted this.

PCs are just as easy to use as consoles. Nearly all PC games natively support controllers. The ease of use argument is bullshit in this day and age. PCs offer the most hassle-free gameplay experience of all.

>The increased complexity of games says nothing about their quality
wew

>You're also a bunch of nostalgic sods who can't stop identifying with an old, mostly forgotten platform and the generally regressing Japanese game industry.
double wew
Trying to somehow undermine the PS2 just because it proves everything you've said wrong.

>anyone can make a game of any size nowadays
There's less shit in India than there is in your post.

>I prefer gaming on console.
Then you wont get quality games on decent hardware.