Are any of these games worth playing outside of lore reasons? I hear they play like ass but have nice stories

Are any of these games worth playing outside of lore reasons? I hear they play like ass but have nice stories

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>I hear they play like ass but have nice stories
That's the general consensus on the first game. The overall combat is a slog, and trying to unlock the final ending is a convoluted chore, but the story goes to some insane enough places to make it memorable.

They don't have nice stories. They have awful, weird stories that people like because they are weird.

3 and Nier are worth playing. 1 is great but sorely needs a remake - read The Dark id's LP of it instead.

2 doesn't exist.

The first game is repetitive as fuck, has an awful camera and requires you to find every weapon to get the last ending, something thats impossible to do without a guide
Second game is who cares tier
Third game has some of the biggest framerate issues ive seen from a console game and the story/characters arent even as good as the first game

Basically just watch them on youtube

They're all completely shit and not even worth watching an LP. Don't get meme'd into thinking they have a worthwhile plot or characters, and don't even think about listening to the "it's so bad that you need to experience it for yourself man" psychos.

If you're a masochist, I guess.

The pain is part of the experience.

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>all these casuals suggesting youtube or LP
Casuals.
But seriously, you can't experience Drakengard just by reading about it. It's something you have to do yourself. It's like reading about Killer7. Would it really be the same?

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>3 is worth playing

Pretty sure someone made a full compilation of everything worth seeing in the first game.

youtube.com/watch?v=EkmtlWhn_20&t=1s

I shan't judge you for skipping the heinous gameplay if all you want to see is the story.

Someone post the pissing dragon video

Started playing DOD1 a few days ago thanks to all the Automata threads.

And if I'm going to be honest, it's not as bad as I was expecting. It's definitely a bad game, but not so bad that it hurts to play. Ground combat is just super clunky and aerial combat is okay but boring. I can see myself getting through this.

Gameplay wise, I thought 3 was a huge improvement on Drakengard 1, though still not amazing.

And the comedic tonal shift in the story didn't have me as motivated to finish as I was with Nier or the first game.

The core game is more bland then outright terrible.

It's trying to unlock all 65 weapons in the later missions for the final alternate ending that gets increasingly frustrating.

>bland then outright terrible.
most games that people claim are absolutely garbage and unplayable are usually OK.

Vampire Rain (and Vampire Rain: Altered Species) are accepted as some of the worst games on the platform, but they're surprisingly enjoyable.

I think Nier was an overall much stronger experience, but Drakengard is worth seeing or playing in some fashion.

Nope, now go play 1 and 3.

This.
DR3 has shit framerate and audio issues tho.

I actually thought the opposite
Maybe it was just me being spoiled on the plot somewhat or playing DOD1 and DOD3 first but I like how Drakengard and Drakengard 3 diverges into different routes with the plot and ends up at drastically different conclusions whereas I was playing Nier and didn't like how all the endings basically felt the same up until when you make a difference at the very end, and let's be real here, Ending B is just Ending A with more information

youtu.be/_Ffr6s1j_yA?t=1029
literally the first 20 minutes of drakengard 3

I have this poster hanging in a frame on my wall
how much of a faggot am I

To be fair, if i had that poster Id be doing the same so i guess we're both faggots

>Ending B is just Ending A with more information
But that's something I liked about Nier. Drakengard 3's branching endings made little sense in relation to each other because they're introducing plot details that don't exist in alternate story routes without much explanation of why they only affected one ending and not others.

Ending B of Nier was more about shifting perspectives, changing the tone and information of the story without rewriting the structure of the plot.

It's kind of apples and oranges. I enjoyed seeing how increasingly bizarre the ending in Drakengard got , and I enjoyed the execution of Nier's info reveal.

Except for where Nier's Ending C essentially makes you go through all the final dungeons for a third time without any new changes until the very end. They probably could have let us skip over that at least.

Drakengard 3's combat is actually fun when it runs at more than 10 fps, it's the only game I actually enjoyed playing at times

Who are the guys at the back and the right?

On the right side is Bro Nier.

In the back is the unsung protagonist of Drakengard 2.

No mate, I'm not listening to you. There are people on here RIGHT NOW who enjoyed Bullet Witch. That is probably one of the shittiest games I've ever played and of course Cavia developed that too.

What's with the chocobo hair lol

He goes through a jarring shift in design for the timeskip, but yeah, his earlier look makes me chuckle.

Its garbage all over. Story is a non-comprehensive mess, gameplay is trash.

Lmao Now I cant unsee it

What if Drakengard 2 was actually a good game but no one talks about it because lmao no taro xD

Drakengard 2 is shonenshit with somehow even less interesting characters than 1.
Literally biggest reason to play that game is to see Caim again.

D1 has the best gameplay of the three. Fite me faggots.

t really isnt bad at all. Its gets stigma for being more of a traditional fantasy epic and its not as edgy. The characters can come across as one dimensional, but I liked the relationship between Legna and Nowe. And Caim is fucking awesome, and the way they ended his arc was pretty emotional.

Drakengard is an actual piece of shit just read an LP with youtube.com/watch?v=et8Rw01LvzI on repeat or watch the D and E endings on youtube. Everything that happens before the endings is unimportant and barely coherent anyway

Nier essentially ends with Route B, the others dont really matter since it only changes the individual fates of a few characters and does nothing on a larger scale.

also anyone saying to /read/ Drakengard is a fucking idiot, you're actually better off watching a Longplay if you simply refuse to play it.

I kind of wanted to play just to see how the job market is for Manah after the whole world ending cult thing didn't work out.

You'd only be right if Automata didnt exist

Anyone could sleepwalk through Nier but DoD1 was strangely engaging, 3 was just whatever/10

Drakengard doesn't have a good story it has a shitty mess of a story with some batshit insane stuff that comes out of left field at the very end which is entertaining.

I want to play jap Nier just because Kaine travelling with two little boys really fucking gets me going.

I think if you're going to play a lore driven game (given it's age like DoD series) you'd be better off watching synopsis videos on youtube about it. It will save you a great deal of time and you'll collect all of the important bits in the better part of an hour. Unless the gameplay is good, then you can disregard everything I've said here

>nip games
>"nice stories"
top kek

>shitplebssay.jpeg

Drakengard 1 is probably the most thematically consistent of all the games.

The shitty gameplay is part of the fun.

(You)

That's what I've been saying. 2 isn't really given any attention but from what I've read gameplay wise it's fairly improved from 1 yet Tarofags will just tell you to skip it despite 1 being absolute garbage gameplay wise.

Literally nobody would care about this garbage game if not for "LE GIANT BABIES" which only show up at the very ends of D and E

Maybe the story is shonenshit and doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things but I'd like to know if its at least entertaining

The story is kind of disjointed and messy, but it's a lot of fun when the standard fantasy premise gives way to three flavors of apocalyptic cosmic horror

You and your faggot youtube friends arent everyone.

I care about it because Angelus is mai waifu

2 has best dragon gameplay but the story is so fucking boring and you can't skip cutscenes so it is way worse. The dragon gameplay doesn't make up for the rest in my opinion.

faggot youtubers are pretty much the only people that pretend to care about this game

> tfw doing the mission where the enemy army is attacking and there are like 1000 NPCs to kill - literally

> go full murderous revenge mode and spend most of the first of the mission just slaying niggas left and right and leveling up swords
> forget the missions have multiple stages to them and the time limit is fixed
> last 5 minutes try to finish the mission as quickly as possible after wasting like 1.5 hours or something killing NPCs
> fail the mission
> stopped playing for a over a year because that even left a bad taste in my mouth

i really need to pay attention to mission objectives

it's mistakes like that which end up costing me hours of gameplay progress

Its decent. Honestly I wouldnt mind if they continued this continuity in another game. Theyd just need to work on the characterization, really.

She had a colorful resume at the very least.

There's nothing really standard about Drakengard's premise unless you're using the mere presence of Dragons and fairies as proof.

You'd be hard pressed finding another game that starts off with a psychotic guy threatening to murder-suicide a dragon unless they fuse souls.

I replayed the early stages more times than I cared to admit trying to level up. Just put on a podcast or something and zone out.

>Drakengard sold more than 122,000 units in its first week of release in Japan, taking Mobile Suit Gundam: Encounters in Space's place at the top of the sales charts. By the end of 2003, it had sold 241,014 copies.

>Gaming magazine Famitsu ranked it as the 50th best-selling title of 2003,and sold well enough that it was made part of Square Enix's Ultimate Hits series, re-releases of popular titles.

>In Europe, the game sold 110,000 units by November 2004(in 6 months after its release)

People cared. Squenix tried to milk the game with a sequel for a reason.

>yfw when the pedo is literally the most noble and reasonable character in your game

That's fair, the pact idea was interesting.

But the whole Union vs the Evil Empire idea seemed fairly standard starting out. Then things started to escalate.

>. Just put on a podcast or something and zone out...
>...zone out while killing hundreds, if not thousands, of men for the sake of leveling swords
Taro was right.

To be fair,they were people he already killed.

>still have trouble playing DoD3 for extended periods of time
DoD3 is like uncanny valley of gameplay where it's too close to being some kind of competent musou clone to have the janky charm of older titles' odd gameplay, but way too shitty to actually have redeemable gameplay on its own. I just want to put this game in the ground already. I would still fuck Zero at full force in mouth, vagina, and ass.

Taro drove me to it.

Square Square Triangle. Square Square Triangle. Square Square-

I'm not going to buy a dead console just so I can play some old kusoge
I just watched the cutscenes. My only reason for really caring about DoD3 is because Mikhael is pure and I want to protect his smile

DoD3s gameplay is the least of its problems t b h

70% of the actual story isnt even in the game

>tfw you fail spoilers so hard you spoiler your entire post

how exactly is that different compared to any other game where you kill people?

fucking tarofags I swear.

I just forced on through. The story wasn't my cup of tea, but the combat was just mildly frustrating in comparison to the first game.

Still quit and never looked back after failing the final boss's rhythm game though.

Drakengard 1 is worth watching. Unless you're a macochist, don't actually pick up a controller. Play Nier and 3. Skip 2.

Watching it doesn't do it justice. The gameplay is shit beyond belief, but just watching it doesn't work.
They're very "meta" in many ways and toy with player expectations and conventions. If you like that kind of thing, play 'em. Otherwise is not even worth watching desu

Someone who is only superficially interested in the lore might as well just watch it and move on, but yea someone actually interested in them as full experiences should play them.

I wouldnt say skip 2. Its not terrible, just more a traditional epic compared to ither entries in the series. It does have a few pretty good moments mostly with Caim So far, its had no impact on other games, but who knows whatll happen in Automata.

I think I would have appreciated Mikhael as the moral compass more if he had actually backed up any of his protests to killing in the end. I get that he was basically an impressionable child, but most of the "fun" he had with Zero was just him reluctantly taking kill orders.

I'm pretty sure it's the only game I can think of where a character like Leonard was painted as flawed yet tragic, more-so than just an easy target for hate.

What I don't get is when people call Drakengard 1's voice work atrocious when it's a cut above most games and one of the highlights, especially Angelus.

Oh? I never heard anyone say that. If they did they don't know what they're talking about.

Inuart as a character wouldn't be one of my favorites without his VA.

So what the heck did the translation team do to him anyway? The only thing I can remember him doing was crying over his "brothers" dying, and being real salty over me killing child soldiers. No mention of him liking little boys.

It's not.
The entire point to Caim was Taro's commentary on how a lot of video game protagonist slaughter countless people but aren't seen as crazy murders.

Some scenes were cut/dialogue nerfed, but a hint of it is left near the end when Seere hugs him.

Similar story with Arioche, and Furiae's mind-read.

Inuart,Lady Manah and Angelus was top-tier.
Everyone else was decent,with Not-Lady Manah being the worst except FMVs.

The only voice I recall having an issue with was Manah's deep possessed voice.

There were a few scenes it worked alright in an unsettling sort of way, other times it was unintentionally hilarious.

Like the other guy said, worth watching.

Allow him to bathe in her gratitude and love

If you kept everything about DoD1 the same but let Platinum juice up the gameplay it'd be a 10/10

I don't recall there being a scene that was straight up cut out, but I think dialogue like the fairy mocking him was a bit more blatant in acknowledging his fixation in the original.

They were still his brothers that died if I recall his novella correctly, but the reason that he left them alone right before the Empire attacked, was because having young men around after living in isolation for so long was making him hot and bothered. So he left to rub it out right before the massacre.

Cue self loathing.

What did they cut out in relation to Arioch? There was more than just the child-cannibalism?

Judging from the demo I think that's exactly what's happened. They've spiced it up a bit and given it polish but it feels really respectful to the original game.

Not so much as cut as nerfed, compared to Leonard she's rather intact, but original had her obsession with kids a little more pronounced.

whoa......... taro..... truely is a...... madman......

...

I thought most of her lines already revolved around children being "sweet" right before trying to eat someone.

Hell, her potential last words were "The greatest of feasts" right before throwing herself at the grotesqueries.

lol thats exactly what she said, one of the best scenes in the games imo, same with Leonard's death

Too bad the universe in which Caim has to deal with demonic flying monstrosities bearing his sister's likeness never got followed up on.

I really liked the way that Leonard's last scene was animated. The way that his hands are trembling as he stands in silence right before he finds his resolve really resonated with me when I first saw it.

The way the fairy went down with him was dark, but it's a fitting end to their arc, considering that she only made a pact with him after feeling she would be safe to mock his self-loathing and fear of death for the rest of his life