If there is any better time to announce it, the 10 year anniversary of the Orange Box would be too perfect, hell even officially showing off Source 2 would be something in and of itself.
Doubt it, does anyone even remember what happened in the last one
Logan Rivera
Didn't they just ignore Half life 2's 10th anniversary? Why would they give a shit about the Orange Box's anniversary?
It's gotten to the point where I barely even care, if the game does come out, sure I'll play it but I won't be jumping for joy.
Hunter Richardson
Valve can't be assed to use their twitter for CSGO that hasn't been used since July of 2016 to let people know that their matchmaking servers for CSGO have been fucked for the past 24 hours and making it impossible to connect to any official games.
What makes you think they're actually spending time and money making a sequel to a game whose last expansion came out 9 years ago?
Gabriel Cooper
Valve only cares about steam now
Luke Smith
0%
Lincoln Butler
>9th of October
Hunter Sullivan
I gave up hope when i realized that they wouldnt make as much money that steam makes them for releasing HL3 or ep3
Nathaniel Young
are you guys unironically still waiting for HL3?
Oliver Myers
Think about how shitty those VR games are and how much man power and time Valve wasted making that tech.
Christopher Bennett
Why won't they at least finish the story?
Fuck, they don't even have to make a game, I'd be perfectly happy with a comic.
Oliver Cooper
they will have to show of Source 2 and/or HL3 sometime in the next 2 years
Brody Watson
Why?
Hunter Sullivan
because they didnt spend 5+ years working on source to not release it, dummy
Jeremiah Gutierrez
Why would they need a new game engine if they don't make games anymore?
Additionally, there is nothing wrong with the current Source engine. In the hands of a competent developer it looks and plays great.
Jose Hall
There was a zombie shanty town with a mad, comical priest It was very Half-Life, not a tech demo at all
Thomas Russell
can someone remind me why they wont just outright say "half life's dead, it's not going to come out, please continue having your children throw money at our thinly-veiled-slot-machine money-printer"
Jose Evans
Selling a competent engine is big money. It's nothing compared to what they make with Steam, but it advances tech and makes money.
Robert Jackson
well it'd be a pretty sick birthday present.
Isaiah Taylor
Because then there would be no one to defend their brand name on the internet since it seems people are wising up to their shit
Parker Wright
>it's been 10 fucking YEARS
Brandon White
source 1 is outdated, and source 2 has been long confirmed and already testing in DOTA 2
Landon Wright
Crowbar mele weapon for all tf2 classes + Gordon Freeman glasses cosmetic
Isaiah Lee
Seriously, the biggest releases of the past years have been on outdated engines.
Heavily modified Quake, Source, Gamebryo, fuck even Unreal 3 is over 10 years old.
Why the fuck would they change their focus from printing money to developing a brand new engine?
Ryder Robinson
GoldSrc is still the best
Noah Phillips
I just want Portal 3 and Team Fortress 3 desu
Adam Allen
>tfw you finally stopped caring
Jacob Sullivan
there's literally no money for valve in making singleplayer games anymore anyone who wants to play it will pirate it, and they know that. they make more in a week from dota/TF2 hats than they ever did off HL1 and 2.
John Torres
You're a fool if you believe Half-Life 3 is coming out. You need to accept it is never happening, Valve doesn't care about making new games, they make billions selling cosmetics, steam, hosting a marketplace, they have no drive or reason to do anything else. Valve is a shell of a company now, if you can't accept that you're just deluding yourself.
Adam Foster
I don't think you understood him well, Source 2 already exists and Dota 2 is running on it.
Connor Evans
source 2 came out with orange box you dummies
Nolan Perry
Man. Makes you wish Steam would just flop.
Dominic Hernandez
no it didnt, orange box is source before that it was goldsrc
Adrian Ortiz
>morrowind fans.jpg
Jackson Sanders
Supposedly Source 2 is pretty much dead at this point. It was reported by developers that Source 2 is nothing like Source 1 in that it is very limited in what can be done and today's competition blows it out of the water. Valve pretty much gave up on making games at this point. Its the sad truth but they are a business afterall, and making singleplayer AAA games are simply not worth it when you have a platform like Steam.
Jaxon Sanchez
Portal showed they can invest extremely little effort into a game/series and still make a big splash because of their brand alone. They could probably care less at this point.
Samuel King
>Supposedly Source 2 is pretty much dead at this point. It was reported by developers that Source 2 is nothing like Source 1 in that it is very limited in what can be done and today's competition blows it out of the water. got a source for that?
Ryan Howard
It will never come out.
Nicholas White
My dad works at Source and he said Source 2 is awesome.
Nathaniel Walker
Source 1 (the one that shipped with HL2 before the OB "improvements") was a crap engine. Even with the updates it is still held together with spaghetti code.
Bentley Kelly
heh heheh
Source?
Also Titanfall 2 runs on a modified source 1 and looks/runs pretty good.
Tyler Peterson
Are you literally typing with your prolapsed anus? Source was absolutely fucking amazing when it came out. No other engines could pull off the kind of shit Source was pulling in the kind of hardware people were using back then. It was an amazingly well optimized engined and is still being used to this very day.
Jeremiah Roberts
>No other engines could pull off the kind of shit Source was pulling in the kind of hardware people were using back then. idTech4, CryEngine?
David Green
Just played through Transmission: Element 120 and fuck... I really want HL3 to be a thing already.
Carter Price
Doom 3 had a better engine. TF2 even after almost 10 years on the market still runs like ass. It had cool physics and facial animations but so did Unreal 2.5. When Unreal 3 came out it was all over.
Dominic Howard
tf2 runs like ass specifically because of all the extra bullshit they've added to the game since release
back in 07 and 08 it ran extremely well
Isaiah Parker
Do you have any idea of what you're talking about?
CryEngine was a fucking mess. Being able to simply RUN crysis at ANY graphical setting was a feat for few. Being able to run it at a decent framerate with high graphical settings? I knew maybe two guys who were able to do this back then.
idTech4 had its fair share of compatibility problems too, and aside from having great lightning, its physics and texture work were nothing compare to what Valve was doing with Source.
Seriously, there's no way someone who was around in 2004 to witness the revolution that Source was to PC gaming would be spewing that kind of shit.
David Young
>there is nothing wrong with the current Source engine This is just a flat out lie, the damn thing barely holds together and is really badly optimized.
Plus at this point the damn thing is older then GoldSrc was when they retired it, and GoldSrc is another engine that still looks good in the hands of a good developer, just look at Cry of Fear, but you don't see anyone fucking clamoring to develop with it these days.
Josiah Harris
TF2 runs like shit because of hats and skins.
Wyatt Morales
>CryEngine >Crysis Are you stupid? >physics >Source HL2 uses (modified) Havoc for physics.
Dylan Diaz
>still runs like ass
No, it runs like ass now. Back when it was released it ran perfectly.
And Doom 3 had a better engine than HL2? Are you retarded?
Lincoln Powell
>thousands of fans died without knowing how the story ends.
Jose Rivera
TF2 always had problems including abysmally-long load times, random crashes and scales poorly with graphics cards because, like all Source games, it's VERY CPU intensive.
>CryEngine was a fucking mess He is talking about the one in FarCry which had non of Crisis' problems.
>idTech4 >bad textures Doom 3 has great texture work on the environment what are you talking about? Half-Life 2 texture work looks like something from GoldSrc.
Henry Gonzalez
GoldSrc is still great because it's hard to mess up the Quake engine.
Matthew Young
Half Life 3 isn't coming out you dumb motherfuckers
Austin Kelly
because then people would get mad valve is the equivalent of a girlfriend who hates you but cant be bothered breaking up with you
Jackson Powell
>TF2 always had problems including abysmally-long load times, random crashes it sounds like you installed it on some shitty super-fragmented 5400RPM HDD in a dying Dell machine >and scales poorly with graphics cards because, like all Source games, it's VERY CPU intensive. true
>Doom 3 has great texture work on the environment what are you talking about? doom 3's environment was individual hallways, quality textures are a freebie and indicate basically nothing about the engine
Ryder Ross
>Selling a competent engine is big money literally the only AAA games made with source 1 in the ten or so years it's been out are valve products and titanfall and there's no reason to believe source 2 will be any better, seeing making a public engine requires you to be good consumer relations which valve are fucking horrible at
Thomas Hughes
Because HL2 open environments looked so good? Doom level designers played their engine's strengths. And I'm pretty sure Doom 3 levels, as small as they were, were larger than the distance from one LOADING to another in HL2.
Jose James
it actually is. i have real proof.
Dylan Torres
source wasn't a revolution to pc gaming, the underlying public technology that source used like pixel shaders and rigid body physics were a revolution to pc gaming and they appeared in every other engine aswell, leaving the source engine behind in the dust because it was an unwieldy piece of shit
William Carter
>Doom 3 has great texture work on the environment what are you talking about? they looked alright
>Doom level designers played their engine's strengths. which were lighting, lighting, and lighting
>And I'm pretty sure Doom 3 levels, as small as they were, were larger than the distance from one LOADING to another in HL2. because the content of the levels was hallways, not a lot of content density per frame going on there
source is not amazing, tech is even less amazing
Henry Martin
Slow loading times have been a problem for TF2 since the game came out.
>doom 3's environment was individual hallways So was a large part of HL2's campaign and texture work was still awful.
>quality textures are a freebie Nope
>and indicate basically nothing about the engine idTech 4 was all about dynamic lighting and gradient shadows. Source was all about physics and facial animations. There is a reason why people remember Alyx and Ravenholm.
Levi Lewis
Valve is making so much money with skins that they dont give a fuck about anything anymore, just milking customers
Like the paid mod faggotry
Brandon Jackson
0%. Its never going to happen. Just accept it.
James Watson
Pretty much. The engine's features were great but the engine as a whole was awful. Making mods and maps with the thing was a nightmare.
David Wood
I played half life 2 and i dont understand why is it "loved" so much, it seems like a trend because its not even good game desu
Gabriel Davis
Ever stop to consider the number of employees at valve that have found people on social media wanting and asking for the next half-life and STILL choosing to not work on it?
Henry Young
0,0001%.
Nathaniel Flores
I don't see how making maps with it is nightmarish. Not the handiest tool out there, yes, but once you get to know that shit, it's easy enough.
William James
They announced it is going to be a movie directed by JJ Abrams
Leo Bailey
Nice meme
Joseph Sullivan
It was too clunky and unwieldly. Map-making tools don't need to be complex - they just need to be usable.
Austin Ramirez
But it is usable. It has an unnecessary learning curve, but it's still very much usable.
Samuel Cox
what? Dota2 is using source 2 and their modding api is pretty advanced
Jeremiah Lewis
>implying it wouldnt be shit it was 10 years ago, most people who worked on it already left
Joseph Richardson
That's not the point. I could make a 1.6 map in a day, while CSS was taking me weeks just so I could make the editor do what I want. There's a reason why HL2 never received the amount of mod support that HL1 got and HL2 had the benefit of Steam.
Jackson Hughes
the only game that runs on source2 is dota2 and its full of bugs and horribly optimized.
Juan Hughes
They do need to be complex if they're the actual tools the developers are using to make games and the engine supports non-trivial stuff.
James Moore
Take a look at the Galaxy Editor for SC2 if you want to know what happens to a complex map-editor tool.
Jack Nelson
Oh so true, the gaming industry has been destroyed by DLC's and micro transactions
To be honest JJ Abrams is probably perfect for it.
Nathan Price
I HAVE. TO MAKE. THE MOVIE.
Hudson Cruz
>What are the chances come the 9th of October? Fucking ZERO because HL3 was scrapped years ago and will never be made. Period. The idea that it'll be announced is just a meme that you should be embarrassed about believing. This is not new, this game will NEVER be made.
The hype bubble is too big for anyone to take over. Any attempt at making HL3 will never satisfy the bubble and the backlash of not meeting everyone's over-inflated expectations will be the most dangerous thing that will bleed Valve for years to come.
Brody Allen
FUCK THIS FAT FUCK
William Barnes
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Brody Flores
>can someone remind me why they wont just outright say "half life's dead, it's not going to come out, please continue having your children throw money at our thinly-veiled-slot-machine money-printer"
Because deep down they know they will lose respect from people if they finally confirm that they basically don't make games anymore.
It's much better for them to essentially be what you described, but also give people the vague idea that they are secretly working on some magnum opus project the whole time
Adam Harris
>What are the chances come the 9th of October? None. The game isn't even in development right now.
Justin Ramirez
Thanks, Bob.
Nathan Bailey
That's hilarious.
Evan Richardson
It's an official announcement that they're retiring the franchise
Jordan Reed
If anyone's interested I could post some comfy Goldsrc stuff.
Isaac Long
Don't delude yourself, Valve doesn't make games anymore.
Nathaniel White
That software renderer had a great aesthetic.
Kevin Collins
You can make a cs 1.6 map in a day because you don't, mostly because you can't, put in much detail at all. The source engine allows much more detail and work to be put in a map, so logically it will be much more time consuming. It has buttfuck retarded quirks, though, I'll admit.
Xavier Baker
They are probably all on christmas holidays
Angel Williams
It's strange that the water effects are so much better in software mode.