GSL Code S Season 1

get over here nerds
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Group A playing today:
Zest(P)
KeeN(T)
Bunny(T)
Rogue(Z)

First match is running now.

What's changed balance wise? I haven't kept up with SC2 thanks to the ASL hype.

protoss gets destroyed hard by terran thanks to tank change

How were they changed?

Does blizzard not know how to balance? wtf were they thinking.

Fuck yeah

Do we actually see mech play now in any matchup?

>watch first game since WoL just now
>deathball collides with deathball, gg

Is this the power of two (2) expansions?

Health increased from 160 to 175.
Damage in Siege Mode increased from 35 (+15 vs armored) to 40 (+30 vs armored).
Siege Tanks can no longer be picked up by Medivacs when in Siege Mode.
Crucio Shock Cannon weapon attack period changed from 2 to 2.14.

mech is pretty popular now, we might see some today

They talked about this on ASL yesterday but I dunno if I'll watch it. I haven't watched SC2 since WoL, is it very different?

They got rid of medivacs being able to pick up and move sieged tanks, and in return buffed their damage, especially against armored.

>no medivac pickup

Does that help out Zerg or no?

it's much faster, dunno if you will like that

>Watching a solved game

Watched the end of that game but wasn't too impressed. Guess I'll stick to brood war. Good luck guys.

>Does that help out Zerg or no?
it helps because they are more easily surrounded and killed off now

>those cheers on player name announcements

low energy

Keen looks salty af

It's different, but probably not better or worse. Tanks absolutely wreck roaches now, but are worse at harassing.

so now that we have seen a bit of each player who do you think will make it out of the group?
Bunny and Zest imo

someone pls explain why the gooks are so obsessed with shitty nu metal?

pretty good games today desu

better than industrial shit hack gordon produces

>sc2

the fuck? its still alive and people are willingly play it?

yes

was there no ASL match today?

Last night's ASl got 10,000 viewers. This has 16,000. Looks like BW is slowly catching up to SC2.

I'm listening literally just so that I can hear Tastosis chatting in the background. I don't care for SC2 at all.

flash vs guemchi on sunday is next

Flash vs GuemChi on the 8th

>tfw no Broodwar today
>only this shit

It's either Sunday/Tuesday or Monday/Tuesday. Ther was a match last night, and there's a new one on Sunday.

ASL was 10,000 English stream, 100,000 Korean stream.

What is the Korean stream for GSL?

don't want to piss on your bonfire but yesterday was a Ro8 match and this is Ro32

why is korean television called Africa TV

what the fuck is this

oh right, this is Starcraft 2, not 1

It's called "Afreeca" and it's pronounced "Af-reeee-ka". Emphasis on the "e".

It seems like some kind of dance troupe. They have themes, including 90's America style.

no1 care, important things happen on sunday when good starcraft is played

okay thanks for your input

It's also the first RO8 in English for like 7 years. There's so many people who have never seen this. I fully expect BW to continue to grow in Korea and outside, and SC2 to either stagnate or slowly decline.

>grack

It's a good idea to watch this in a media player, like bakamplayer. Just copy/paste the url. It makes screenshots super easy. No having to screenshot/paste into a paint program.

Will toss ever be good?

I love them, but they live and die off flavour of the month builds.

nah

>Tastosis cast SC2 and 1

So that's why they keep getting the terms mixed up.

i doubt that even if BW outgrows SC2 it will replace it in big tourneys, it's simply too old game and not that great to look at and this will probably prompt blizz into doing HD remake to milk it and fuck it terribly

>toss takes skill

Nah, mechanics like warp gates are fundamentally broken

>and not that great to look at

It's WAY better looking Sc2 with its plastic soldiers and plastic world. It's just visually unimpressive and a step back.

>this will probably prompt blizz into doing HD remake to milk it and fuck it terribly
gotta say honestly here that I still prefer SC1 artstyle over SC2 by far

well that is subjective, i think visual clarity would be a better word than artstyle and actual graphics

>i doubt that even if BW outgrows SC2 it will replace it in big tourneys,

BW was fucking HUGE in Korea. Blizz attempted to kill it to promote SC2. It might not get big anywhere else, but if it gets even a fraction as big in Korea, it will be huge by e-sports standards.

Like, what does Evo get for views? 100k+? They get that for just round of 16 or 8 already in BW.

>think visual clarity

But BW is very visually clear. Even more than 2. I can always tell what's going on and who's doing what.

It's no more broken than zergs "I only need to build 1 copy of a tech building, then can I full tech switch instantly" shit

It's broken because you can build units literally anywhere on the map

I agree it's a powerful mechanic, but keep in mind it's only gateway units. Still very strong, but it's not like you can warp in colossi at their base or stupid shit.

Terran and Toss need to invest VERY heavily to tech switch, zerg can be ground based all game, then throw down a spire and suddenly have a big muta flock for harass.

These games are way short.

I always loved the 40 minute slugfests of SC1

That would be fine in principle but the way that actually works in practise means gateway units HAVE to be weaker and that's very limiting in terms of race design.

>I always loved the 40 minute slugfests of SC1

That's TvT. Though I think the new Wraith using meta seems to speed up the games a little bit. TvP is almost as long, like 20-30 minutes typically.

i don't see a big tourney going back to an older game even if it is better game than the current one, has that ever happened?
maybe it's about experience, i encountered this franchise when WoL came out, but i have been enjoying these BW games lately

Yes, but keep in mind that all the zerg units are weak. The entire concept behind zerg is built around throwing units at your opponent until they can't respond anymore.

>i don't see a big tourney going back to an older game even if it is better game than the current one, has that ever happened?

Koreans are obsessed with Starcraft. SC:BW was HUGE. It was probably the biggest e-sport ever in the world at its peak. They had two TV-stations entirely devoted to SC. Team houses, team coaches, etc.

I've never heard of anything like that for any other game.

alright, that was kinda cool

This is counterbalanced by upgrades. A Protoss can upgrade their entire army with just weapons and armor upgrades from the Forge. A Zerg going Muta/Ling/Bane for example needs melee weapons, ground armor, flyer weapons, and flyer armor to be equal to the Protoss. Plus, they'll need to go triple Evo/Double spire to upgrade as quickly which is effectively unheard of because it's such a massive investment.

This gets significantly more impactful later in the game in the current meta where a late game Zerg Army needs 3-3-3 ground and 3-3 air to be on equal footing to a 3-3 skytoss deathball.

well hopefully it will make a comeback, and cross-pollination might help sc2 grow too

>This gets significantly more impactful later in the game in the current meta where a late game Zerg Army needs 3-3-3 ground and 3-3 air to be on equal footing to a 3-3 skytoss deathball.
Zerg needs 0-3-3 and 3-3 or even 0-3-3 0-3

Hydra/Viper/Infestor is about the only thing that works

starcraft might be the most fun vidya to watch.

just wait until there's a PvP on.

Viper+Infestor is trash for anyone that isn't GM. If you actually have to APM to manage multiple spellcasters while doing everything else more power to you, but 99% of players are better off just going Viper/Hydra. Plus Infestors are gay and probably getting nerfed anyway.

Anyway, the point is that Zerg tech switch is counterbalanced by Protoss practically always being ahead in upgrades unless they fuck up very badly.

>If you have the APM to manage multpule spellcasters

Well yeah, you need to if you're going to play toss. Stalkers, HT, Adepts, Sentry, etc etc.

even with viper hydra you still only need 0-3-3 0-3

thanks for coming to this thread, it's alway nice to see some love for any version of starcraft, see you on the saturday GSL and/or sunday ASL

>Hydras without weapon upgrades
>Against Carriers

nah.

0-3-3 is 0 melee, 3 ranged, 3 ground carapace

Carriers take forever and a day to get going. If you as a zerg let carriers go up, you have failed big time.

>It's WAY better looking
Take off your nostaligia googles mate, BW aged like milk.

How old are you?