Nomura can't direct a new finished game for shit

>Production is progressing on unannounced worlds, in a state that we cannot show them off. In terms of the state of development, there is still some way to go.”

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>Wanting a rushed game

I know you're used to your annual releases but games take time to develop.

Nothing under this guy with his confidence lately is gonna be released well, i mean yeah a 5 hour kh game remake is nothing to brag about

>but games take time to develop.

3-4 years is the expected time for a AAA game to be released.

Enjoy waiting 10 years for a mess of a cut content game

After what happened with XV's finally getting out of the door, if Nomura's taking his time to make sure KH3 is as finished as it needs, I'm not gonna bitch about that.

Though I think 2 things need to happen:
1. He needs to learn how to say 'No' and not get pulled into other projects.
2. He needs to put down the bottle.

>if Nomura's taking his time to make sure KH3 is as finished as it needs

Which is gonna be impossible if he has to work on FF7 remake

This guys can't handle both projects and just setting up for disaster

>3-4 years is the expected time for a AAA game to be released.
It's more like 3-4 but SE is just fucking retarded.

That said OP is a retard for thinking KH3 is coming out any time soon, FF7 is the priority.

Meh, i can wait, it's not like i was eager to play 7R und i've already waied long enough for kH3. That said 7R was only announced in 2015 so i wouldn't expect it to release in 2017 anyway. Has not much to do with Nomura really, unless you want an actual buggy and rushed game, sure he took ages with V13, but now there aren't other mainline titles in the way or dumb CEOs that make stupid decisions or an MMo that needs to be relaunched

>That said 7R was only announced in 2015 so i wouldn't expect it to release in 2017 anyway

Why? What's the point of announcing games if they're not going to be out for five years

Do you remember where it was announced

Welcome to Square Enix

He's the exact fucking reason XV got rushed in the end idiot.

2016 was the limit the could wait and fucked off doing god knows what for 7 years, not even having a story by 2013.

No

It's Square Enix after all, they don't announce their games when they're already working on it for a while or are able to release it in two years or something, they literally just show trailers when they start working on it

XV had a lot of different factors that lead to it getting fucked over. I'm not placing the blame on one party.

>not even having a story by 2013.
He did but then it became mainline so they had to cut most of it

>rushed

FF7 remake started development in 2014.
KH3 started development in 2013.

None of them are forcast for release in 2017.

2018 is the earliest any of those two could release.

Square Enix takes long to make games, announces them too early and Nomura is a perfectionist often in the wrong way even though he has the right intentions. No surprise here. But in 7Rs case it should go a little smoother since all the story and shit is mostly set already, KH3 who knows i've given up on waiting on an actual release year

>KH3 started development in 2013.
I wouldn't even say that. Nomura said at the time that it was announced too early and then they had problems with Luminous and had to switch to Unreal 4.

It's not like they have to rush these like FFXV

>if Nomura's taking his time to make sure KH3 is as finished as it needs, I'm not gonna bitch about that.


Yeah nah get fucked. XVs current state is because of Nomura not knowing what the fuck he was doing for 7 years and them putting Tabata on as director to fix his mess and get it out the door within 3 years.

Nomura has now been at KH3s head for 4 years and FF7Rs head for 3 years and neither of them are going to be released this year.

A rushed game will always be bad. A finished game can at least have the potential to be good. 0.2 has looked great from everything released so far which means KH3 is looking good as well.

nomura was responsible for FF15 for 7 years and did fuck nothing. say about tabata what you want, but he took a clusterfuck of a game and made a rather good game out of it in half the time it took nomura to do 0.

Sorry that's how I feel.

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For what purpose did you space so much? Is it autism?

>neither of them are going to be released this year.
And no one believed they would

Doesn't help that every KHIII trailer ends with "announcement coming soon" 12 years it's been since KHII came out.

No its reddit spacing. Ignore his post.

>he wants the game to rush out.

MGSV and konami
Final fantasy 15 and squeenix
Scalebound and MS

Shut the fuck up OP you know nothing you capitalist pig let the developers do their thing without publishers shitting on them left and right you faggot.

In my eyes XV is still an unfinsihed game so meh, i'm glad it's just out though. They still annoucne their games too early and everyone should know that. And seriously who fucking thught 7R or KH3 would release 2017 especialy with shit like 2.8 coming out

7R was announced in June 2015 but it has been in development since 2014.

KH3 was announced in June 2013 and has been in development since before then too.

Anyone having hope for SE and Nomura after XV is an idiot

>He did but then it became mainline so they had to cut most of it
No he didn't.

Ferrari confirmed on his facebook account a few weeks ago that in 2013 XV didn't even have a set story and it was changing every three months, that was back when Nomura was still director.

Something you're not telling us, user? How do you know what reddit spacing is?

I did not say when
I said where

>has been in development since before then too.
Eh not really.

>Games take timeeeeee.
Final Fantasy used to come out every fucking year.
Square could easily use some assets they have already created but refuse too, which would help them in the long run. "Since they started scanning live objects with textures and putting them into the game."

Ontop of that they stick assholes on the project who are given years in advance to work on the game yet dont.

>Oh boy I cant wait to play Kingdom Hearts 3 since its been years.
>Oh boy, Final Fantasy 15.
>Fuck ya, lets put games in development hell for no reason other then "muh perfection" only to receive a flopping fucking 5/10 score.

Ya, no, no matter how much you work on your game it wont be perfect, you dont need a new game out every year either, but making people wait 5+ years for a new game thats essentially "wow its nothing" isnt good either.

Every 2 to 3 years, max if you plan on making multiples of a game, like Final Fantasy.

Nobody wants to wait 10 years to play a final game in a trilogy, nor anything else.

I doubt it, both were just early CG concept shit like V13 and they switched to UE4 with KH3 a year later and they showed basicly nothing except for TT and the rock titan for 2 years.
I'll just wait at this point i don't even care, people bitch about not wanting 7R and suddenly they want it as soon as possible?

What? They didn't move KH3 off of Luminous because they had problems with Luminous.

They moved KH3 off of Luminous because all Luminous devs were assigned to XV in 2014, and so they moved KH3 to UE4 in 2014, and then Nomura said he was having problems with UE4.

>in 2013
>After it became mainline
Thanks for proving my point

KH3 and FFVII remake will take longer than expected

Not surprised but still disappointed

I'd consider that a problem with it. If there's no one to help with it, not a lot of progress is gonna be made. I didn't mean problems with then engine specifically.

>FF7R "part 1"
>4 + years development

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH NIGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Kinda expected from those games, who in their right mind thought 7R or KH3 would release this year.
I can already see where this thread is going though, better not bring up FFXV

They had playable builds of KH3 on Luminous back in 2013 which they showed at D23 in 2013.

Then in like August or something in 2014 they moved all Luminous devs to XV so they moved KH3 off of Luminous and onto UE4, since that is the only other DX11 capable engine with similar engine features they could have moved it too.

Can you even say No to a project in Japan without being seen as lazy and disrespectful?

WTF I DON'T WANT THE REMAKE ANYWA FUCK EPISODIC
I MEAN MAKE IT FASTER REEE

He's already here

I noticed

Too late.

He's legit unhinged.

Versus became XV in July 2012. They only announced to the public that Versus was XV in June 2013.

In June 2013 Nomura said that the story of XV is still the same as Versus, but just a few weeks ago Ferrari confirmed that in 2013 XV didn't have a set story and was changing every three months.

>Unannounced worlds

It's just going to be Zootopia and Moana or some shit

Remember that SE has not made even a passable game in 10 years.
Just think about it.
10 years of mediocrity

>After it became mainline so he had to cut most of it
Stop proving my point you idiot

>Final Fantasy used to come out every fucking year
I don't know if you've noticed or not, but Square isn't making these games on the NES anymore.

Yeah they have, that's the problem. The game's are passable but not as good as IV-X

And why should i trust any of those idiots. Anyone of them could lie and anyone could tell the truth, we will honestly never know what really happened. If you want to hate on Nomura that's totally fine though.
I won't blame Nomura or Tabata for XV though, it should've been cancelled in 2011 and should've never been worked on again or turned into a mainline FF. Coming up with a finished scenario and vision for a new XV would've been a beter idea and would've saved a lot of time and marketing budget

>"This year is the 15th anniversary of Kingdom Hearts, the 20th anniversary of Final Fantasy VII, and the 30th anniversary of the Final Fantasy series. What do you have planned?"
>"...uuuuuh...w-well, we have a new remaster of a game you've already played, and we're also releasing remasters of remasters of games that you've already twice over already. Please look forward to them."

Why are they letting a fashion designer develop games?

XIII-2 was good

Modern games take too long to make, for publishers to feel comfortable funding them.
Publishers would rather release a half finished game, fire half the staff and then have the skeleton crew fix the game in updates, in order to cut costs.
Its the future always online provides. Soon every released AAA game will basically be early access beta and the finished game will be in updates.
But Sup Forums the company loving faggots that they are will smile and say thank you, while the creators are fucked over time and time again by having their creations rushed out before they are ready because some faggot who doesn't even play games read a report from some other faggot who has a loose grasp on what video games are that says they have to ship next week.

>And why should i trust any of those idiots.

Because Ferrari was the fucking character designer ?

rip

XV is the best FF game in existence so they did.

And Nomura was the fucking director?
Anyone of them could tell anything, the game is out so who fucking cares. 7R and KH3 will take forever no surprise.
If you want to hate more on Nomura you can just make one of your xv threads xv-kun and no before you go full autism again i dont´'t like him much either, but i won't try to turn every thread on it's head abuot it like you

XV is a shit game though, even if nomura was a hack and couldn't finish it XV is one of the worst open world games this gen with terrible casualised combat

Fuck off retard

Are you fucking retarded? Can you not read?

What reason does Ferrari have to lie? He's the one who designed a majority of the characters on the game and was part of the game since Versus in 2010 until he left XV in 2013 when Nomura left, Fuck man he's currently working on 7R too along with Nomura as character designer.

Keep fucking backpedaling after we have proven statement from Ferrari confirming that the game was changing every three months and had no set story in 2013 when Nomura was director.

I just want to see Zack Fair again to be quite honest. I hope they don't muck up the death scene again although I know they will

>They moved KH3 off of Luminous because all Luminous devs were assigned to XV in 2014
dualshockers.com/2015/12/22/former-luminous-engine-lead-explains-why-square-enix-is-using-it-only-for-final-fantasy-xv-for-now/
>When he creates an engine, a game also has to be developed with that engine. After the engine proves itself in said game, then the technology can be shared, as the developers can finally say that it works
>Merceron recommended to Square Enix to release Final Fantasy XV and then see what happens with that, before using Luminous Engine with other games.
They moved to unreal because they wanted a proven engine rather than an unknown potential mess

>I didn't play this game but I have strong opinions on it
>What do you mean Obamacare and the ACA are the same thing?!

>MGSV and konami
>Final fantasy 15 and squeenix
>Scalebound and MS

>all those games took longer than 4 years

That's the problem, the longer the game takes to be made then it's going to be shit


4 years is when a large game should completely be finished

So you have no actual counter arguments just
>d-durr he is ying because the game is out
Which doesn't even make any fucking sense.

You have no fucking valid argument, you just want to cocksuck Nomura for whatever fucking reason even when his own fucking subordinate is telling exactly what happened back in 2013 when he was part of the team.

>Keep fucking backpedaling
irony

Reminder that FFIV-X came out within 10 years.

XV is a great game and is legitimately better than any other FF, it has a better world than any other FF and the combat is actually combat that feels involving, not just "choose words from a menu" while you stand around casual shit.

You first shitcunt.

Are you retard?

He directed, wrote, design and produced countless games in the last decade. Nobody wants another shitty XV, so stop beign a fucking faggot.

>Anyone of them could tell anything,

Who the fuck is more reliable? People like you or actual character designers of the fucking game who's been involved in the actual development time? This is some salty damage control refuting trusted sources that don't match his bullshit

Practically irrelevant because budgets and development time didn't really start ballooning till X.

Whoa you cracked the code. Older generation games were less complcated to make and took less time. Modern games take longer to make because they are more conplicated.
Get this man an honorary college degree for being a fucking genius. You sure showed everyone in this thread. Congrats.

How is that contrary to anything I just said when I said what I said specifically with that statement in mind.

All Luminous devs were moved to XV to work on Luminous alongside XV to prove that engine.

That is why KH3 was moved off of Luminous and they used UE4 instead, not because Luminous was having problems, but because they wanted to finish Luminous with XV first before they start using Luminous in other games.

And just last month SE trademarked "Luminous Studio Pro" so that lines up with XVs release too, so Luminous is a finished engine now.

Fuck off Nomura-kun. boards.fireden.net/v/thread/362375493/#q362394123

>rushed game
You are pathetic.

FF7
FF8
FF9
FF10
FF Tactics

All released between 1997 and 2001. This is the peak of the series, and it will never be matched. Now it takes 5 years to make a pieces of shit like FF13, FF15 and EPISODE ONE of FF7 R.

It's a joke.

Goddamn, are all FF threads that even casually mention XV going to be terrible from now on? This is a new level of dedication, the likes of which I've never seen.

>He directed, wrote, design and produced countless games in the last decade.

Name a single full game that were released in a timely manner and not spin off remakes/mobileshit from 2012

He's out of it and can't handle large projects anymore

>were less complcated to make and took less time.
And yet they were also better than modern FF games.

Spot the fucking casual.

lol I just grabbed it from a random thread
No need to get bootyblasted because it proves how stupid you are

Seeing as XV is the best FF I'm sure people would be fine with more games like XV.

Nomura is the reason why XV had development problems to begin with, Tabata fixed his shit and still released a great game despite being flawed.

When is the last time you saw a good thread about any game here?

Sure thing Nomura-kun.

>10 years on a bland open world with 2 explorable cities and 95% side missions were personal errands

>good

Can't wait for Final Fantasy XV to leave early access, right XVBRO?!

I don't even know what that pic has to do with nomura but ok xv-kun

Uh... KHII didn't end with a trailer for 3, it ended with a trailer for Birth By Sleep. Until 2013 KH3 had NEVER been announced it was just "Assumed" it was coming.

Combat is fun, the characters are likeable and interesting, it looks nice, and the framework for the story is good, even though it doesn't quite execute it in a satisfying way. It's a good game. The story is honestly the least important thing there, anyway, the game is really about Noctis and his crew, and it nails that aspect.

There are occasional diamonds in this den of shit.


I just can't believe he-who-must-not-be-named has fucked up discussion of the game on this board. A lot of the bullshit is reactionary to the shit he's pulled.

This. This assumption also comes from people skipping the games between 2 and 3.

2013 - 2016:

Director:
Kingdom Hearts Unchained X

Producer:
Dissidia Final Fantasy
Theatrhythm Final Fantasy: Curtain Call
Final Fantasy All the Bravest
World of Final Fantasy

Character design:

Final Fantasy XV
World of Final Fantasy
Dissidia Final Fantasy
Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy All the Bravest

Whoa...so this...is the power....of shitposting...

>spinoff
Don't worry son I got you

You're a fucking idiot. Today's game have a higher graphical standard and need voice acting for multiple languages. I can't even fathom how stupid you are.